"Maybe a bit too long"
understatement?
― Zeno, Saturday, 20 February 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean this is like the simplest, easiest, most cliched thing to say about it, but it just sounds like shes "maturing as an artist." "getting more accessible".
and i like it.
― Zeno, Saturday, 20 February 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
But I was impressed with "'81," and totally wowed by "Good Intentions Paving Company," which pretty much seems like the best mid-70s sophisticated singer-songwriter track that never was--Joni Mitchell would've been very proud to have created it.
lolwut?
― Mordy, Saturday, 20 February 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
"But I was impressed with "'81," and totally wowed by "Good Intentions""
yeah, she should make an entire album in a 70's rock-jazz style. it will probably be awesome.
― Zeno, Saturday, 20 February 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone that says all 2.2 hours of this is flawless/5stars/A plus is just lying to themselves.
― Emily's Cheese, Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
sigh
― thomp, Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
never anything 'freak'-y about her music
^^^ otm. never let it be said that the reason I don't like joanna newsom is because she is too weird/freaky
― MY RUSTIC CHURCHWARDEN PIPE TOBACCOS; WITH RED T-SHIRT OF SURF (Curt1s Stephens), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
So does the vinyl include free mp3 downloads?
xost: no, and i sort of thought there would be. some nice pics though. but i was digitizing my copy and found a nice piece of fuzz melted onto the vinyl on side 3 and makes it all glitchy for a minute. i have to return it and not sure if i want to just go cd at this point
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
still kind of o_O by her sex lyrics sung in _that_ voice. this was true of last lp, too.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Following on from the Newsom/Tarantino story above, Sophie's piece:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article7032768.ece
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I've got the vinyl on order... What the packaging like? Is it a box set type thing or some gatefold package?
― Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed, sitting here by the pool in Hollywood, where she orders Sazerac cocktails
wkiw
― i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Saturday, 20 February 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
"still plenty to hate on if you want to hate on shit, i think she just sung about finding a violin in the garden of eden."
nah, it happens all the time
― Zeno, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
― Emily's Cheese, Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:14 PM
better to not listen to it then? of all the dumb things to say at this stage
― abcfsk, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
breaking news triple LP not completely perfect from front to back TURN ON THE SIRENS
― ciderpress, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
well, lots of acts have stuff to release as a triple album. 99.9% of them will cut it down to a maximum double album, and they have very good reasons to do that.
i guess she really thinks everything is worthwhile to put on the record.future will tell if she's right.
― Zeno, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"unfortunately it doesnt all sound like good intentions paving co"
Soft As Chalk, in a way
― Zeno, Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
xost: no, and i sort of thought there would be. some nice pics though. but i was digitizing my copy and found a nice piece of fuzz melted onto the vinyl on side 3 and makes it all glitchy for a minute. i have to return it and not sure if i want to just go cd at this pointI've got the vinyl on order... What the packaging like? Is it a box set type thing or some gatefold package?
http://www.ear.fm/Encyclopedia%20W/fuzzbox.jpg
― M.V., Saturday, 20 February 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_b4EwSy36nVk/SlVlb8oJxUI/AAAAAAAAADA/if437xF9Xyg/S660/ladyplays.jpg
― M.V., Saturday, 20 February 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
http://blogs.pitch.com/wayward/Hot%20Fuzz2.JPG
― M.V., Saturday, 20 February 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not usually one to have a problem with "weird" vocals--big Bjork, Knife, Arthur Russell, David Thomas et al fan- -Soundslike
Yeah I don't have a problem with Bjork or Arthur Russell's vocals (I haven't heard Knife or David Thomas to my knowledge), but I only have a few favorites of both of them that I only pay attention to. I don't think Johanna is bad and I prefer her sound to most pitchfork music (god I hate pitchfork music), but I have yet to find a single Newsom song I would listen to repeatedly or put on a mix cd.
Bjork's Venus as a Boy, Hyperballad, Human Behavior, Joga, Triumph of Heart.. and Arthur Russell's Home Away From Home, You and Me Both, That's Us/Wild Combination, You and Me Both.. seem so much more engaging than anything Newsom has done. I'm not really feeling it with Johanna Newsom. Too flowery
― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 20 February 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
*A Little Lost
― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 20 February 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Worth pointing out that triple album or no, it's still just 18 songs, so hardly some massive clearing-house. First album had short songs. Second album had long songs. Third album has long and short songs. Makes sense to me.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I wanted to like this album, obviously. But I don't. :(
― Turangalila, Sunday, 21 February 2010 06:52 (fourteen years ago) link
So far (only listened to the first disc) I'm loving every minute--it scratches a certain musical itch for me, I guess. Not one I need fulfilled too often, but this gets at it. Each (longer) song definitely has enough ideas for a good full length album, which could be a knock against it--I don't disagree that it could seem "flowery". But it avoids feeling overwrought through sheer skill and quality--I'm almost always one for minimalism over the baroque, shorter over longer, pithy over wordy, but this overcomes all of those predispositions, which impresses me still further.
― Soundslike, Sunday, 21 February 2010 07:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Great record(s). Probably better that the new Broken Social Scene. :-)
― Australia, the world's suburb (SeekAltRoute), Sunday, 21 February 2010 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link
The arrangements are, thus far (I'm also only one disc in), already way more interesting than those on Ys.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 February 2010 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link
There's just way more space and dynamics. Harp + orchestra can grow a bit dull and colorless over 50 minutes.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 February 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder how much of the Triple Album thing is a marketing gimmick.if it is - it works fine.
― Zeno, Sunday, 21 February 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
in many ways, this record vs Y's is like comparing Wee Tam & The Big Huge with Hangman's Beautiful Daughter:
a psych folk classic turned in the next record into something more accessible and simple, in a longer format, with some boring, repetetive-melody fillers and still some excellent stuff as well.
― Zeno, Sunday, 21 February 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
this has leaked like Ronald Reagans diaper
― danbunny, Sunday, 21 February 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Any info on who recorded this and where?
― bowl of drawn butter (Eazy), Sunday, 21 February 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
it was recorded by Bibbleloo Dibbleodid,but do not speak his name or you will turn into a bale of straw.It was recorded at the foot of Auriuga by one of the Pleiades,possibly Maia.
― danbunny, Sunday, 21 February 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
it was recorded all over the place by five people: t j doherty, noah georgeson, ryan francesconi, dana gumbiner and neal morgan - @ radiostar in weed; at fantasy (berkeley), sear sound (ny); king sound & pictures(laurel canyon); cedar house (sea-town); station to station (grass valley).mixed by noah g (laurel canyon); jim O'Rourke @ magnet (Japan).mastering by steve rooke @ Abbey Road Studios
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 21 February 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks thanks
― bowl of drawn butter (Eazy), Sunday, 21 February 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I wish I liked this album half as much as everyone else. Most of these new songs just aren't very good, imo. None of the (plentiful on Ys) revelatory climactic resolutions are there, save for a couple of songs (which sounded 1000x more affecting live anyway). Obviously a lot of thought & work has been put into this album, but I think the sparser arrangements/deliberate restraint only help reveal how brittle and deceitfully noneventful most of this whole thing really is.
― Turangalila, Monday, 22 February 2010 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
A lot of the songs are actually musically really repetitive. It's seriously ten minutes of her doing variations on the same melody line. Yes it breathes more than Ys and she's (IMO) singing much better, and her lyrics and storytelling is pretty great, but musically and chordally these songs really drag and don't really do that much. Even when they crescendo they crescendo on the same chord progression and generally peter out on the same one too. It's not as EXHAUSTING as Ys, but it's also nowhere near as interesting. That said I find it infinitely more listenable but still something I'd never see myself reaching for much
― Emily's Cheese, Monday, 22 February 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Monday, 22 February 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
wow we got that wrapped up, what, 40 hours after it leaked?
you instant let-me-hold-forth guys ever take yr time with anything?
― sean gramophone, Monday, 22 February 2010 06:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Fuck, I like "Good Intentions Paving Company." I think it could be a little shorter (around 4:00 it takes some of my breath away, but then there's still 3 minutes to go and it's a let-down waiting for it to end), but it's so pretty at moments that it even makes me forget how annoying her voice is. Particularly what she does at, "But I fell for you, honey, as easy as falling asleep," and, "It had a nice a ring to it / When the old opera house rang / So with a song I'm all ran / Signed, sealed, delivered I sang."
― Mordy, Monday, 22 February 2010 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
brb sean gramophone, questioning my worth as a human being
― Turangalila, Monday, 22 February 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
― sean gramophone, Monday, February 22, 2010 1:14 AM Bookmark
That's what she said.
― pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 22 February 2010 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm waiting for the 2020 quadruple "deluxe edition" with previously unreleased bonus tracks.
― Zeno, Monday, 22 February 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
The CD packaging is really cool. Its like a flip open (side spine) actual "box" a little under half an inch deep, then each disc is in its own sleeve and a pretty hefty book of liner notes and lyrics. The pictures on the sleeve covers and the lyric book certainly back up her emphasizing the "hot" Joanna Newsom. Black and white photos of her lounging on a chair wearing what sort of looks like a bathing suit with overall type straps over the shoulders.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 February 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
This is the first time I'll be going to the record store the day of release in a while!
― ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
The store I stopped by this afternoon just happened to have it out already!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 February 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
So anyone able to buy copies of this in Austin, TX yet?
― Moodles, Monday, 22 February 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i saw them at end of an ear on saturday
― city worker, Monday, 22 February 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I wish more people respected the release date for the album of the year. Respect, respect!
― ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder if it will sound different if i wait til tomorrow to illegally download it
― idgi, mon (k3vin k.), Monday, 22 February 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link