― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
michael's sound has a lot of violence and terror in it. (i talk about this in my second book somewhere, i think. he often sounds goth.) but right, somehow, it doesn't bill itself as being violent terror otherwise. (though i guess "thriller" does, in a way. but even there, it pretends the terror is a fun thing.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― nameom (nameom), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
JUNE 15the Lizzie/Hilary campaign was meticulously worked out between all parties involved. I Can't Wait video (played on Disney Channel only) / and the Lizzie TV soundtrack in fall (?) 2002full Xmas album (which i really like) Xmas 2002the Why Not video , March 2003 which broke into MTV within 30 days i'm pretty surethe So Yesterday single/video early summer 2003and the album, back-to-school purchase for every grade schooler in american late august 2003, went straight to #1 (its SECOND week...it bumped Mary J. Blidge which had higher 1st week sales, but not the 2nd week)."Sweet 16 in Hawaii" special on the WB channel on her Sept (23?) birthday then the sequence of club gigs (about 6 or 7 max) in late fall 2003 -- i saw santa cruz at a 1,000 head venue and it was great, loved the bandfollowing by a full on arena tour early 2004 that did just great from zero to 100 miles an hour in just 15 months or so
JULY 2
Subject: did skye finish recording in LA?
in case anyone's noticed anything on the regular website that i never see anymore. if she was still in LA, i'd invite her down to the SAT July 8th samoans yearly gig in hollywood, all ages at the Knitting Factory, to get up on stage and stomp around during the "Tequilla" onstage pee wee dance contest, and air guitar with the unused 2nd guitar (during my 5 song shift back at the drum kit) to vancouver punk classic "Slave To My Dick." hell i could teach her Slave to My Dick for real in 5 minutes at the merch table.
JULY 2 (LATER)
"hey skye..all this cool shit i sent you on your birthdays...i was just using you to get to met Max Martin!" ha ha. cool, i'll post a comment right into her comments column. (maybe dupe it as a message too). we're in her Top 8 for like forever so if she ever sees our band name on a coment/message it's probably like, "aw man, what crazy thing do the Samoans have for me this year?" ha ha if she had thenight off, she was a regular goofball trying to work the "sales table" in that highschool Switched episode when they sent her to Kentucky for a week. we'd put her to work signing fake autographs at the merch table where i spend half my time every gig. i guees now that skykdebrat is up to speed on max martin's genius, now i can send her one of my dupes of BACKSTREET BOYS GREATEST HITS which is just amazing...one of myfaovirte hits collections of all time.
AUG 7
Subject: Re: new idea for miley month? punk/mylie x 4 playlist
ahh someone i know, emily, did a "playlist" thing the ohter day onto her page. where does that link up? i want the NEWEST mylie song "I've Got Nerve, " that's my favorite.. i'm out of town for five entire days Aug 17th / 18 / 19 / 20 /21 back dinnertime the 21stand that would be an ideal time to have Mylie playing nonstop and i'll put a picture up (i hve 16 pictures on the page now)and it's header/caption will be "it's MYLIE CyRuS month!" mylie roooolz all you suckas u know you love it and when i get back aug 21st i'll see if it's annoyed enough "punk rockers" to stay up all month. it would be rad if you could mix one or two great 1977-82 punk songs into it on my Favorites (towards the end) i 've been pulling up WEIRDOS Destroy All Music **Mylie** I'VE GOT NERVECH3 I've Got A Gun **Mylie** BEST OF BOTH WORLDSX Los Angeles ** Mylie** whatever 3rd best songTHE EYES TAQN **Mylie** whatever 3rd best songREDD KROSS Bubblegum Factory that gtreat Redd Kross song w/Susan Cowsill on vocals drives punk rockers crazzzy i don't know if all those sogns will download though
AUG 9
Subject: hahahaha i'm laughing hysterically / playlist fior angry samoans page http://www.myspace.com/192503angrysamoans 1. Miley/Hannah - I've Got Nerve2. Weirdos - Destroy All Music3. Miley/Hannah - Best of Both Worlds4. X - Los Angeles5. Miley/Hannah - Who Said6. CH3 - I Got a Gun7. Nikki Cleary - Summertime Guys 8. The Eyes - TAQN9. Rose Falcon - Up Up Up10. Dickies - Gigantor11. Germs - Lexicon Devil12. X - We're Desperate
this is the funniest album i've ever seen hah ahahaha ahahaha just scanning it is hysterical. i want to go to the record store and buy a copy!!! 3 of the 7 LA punk tunes have legitmate bubblepoppy traits to them -- weirdos, and of course the dickies and the great Eyes song (charlotte caffey played bass in that band, before the Go Go's formed in1978). i will of course put a good blonde-wig singing picture of Mylie up periodically now that our page have 16 photos...so many that evenone is left wide open (for perpetual change) for emily (or me) to fuck with unasked. E. spent five hrs (she said) putting together a long "playlist" for her page the ohter day annnd that is what put the idea into my head. i got Paypal money sitting around if i can reimburse you for the tunes, or split or hahaha we'll bill Robert Hilburn's ass and attach a lameness surcharge. once it's up w/miley photo, you should post the track listing and short explanatoin into I Love Music. "The Most Insane Myspace 12 Song Playlist Of All Time" chuck eddy called the secondangry samoans album a pop album (14 songs, 17 minutes) in his Stairway To Hell book,so whhat the fuck! my choce of LA songs differs wildly from a conventional one by havning the Eyes and CH3 so far up. i don't know if the CH3 track is the first version (average) or the next year's re-rereocrding that was on the UK Punk And Disorderly (and a UK 45) which was AMAZING, one of the verybset 45s of all of 1982 easily
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link
I figured out what Indiana reminds me of - The Starting Line's album, Based On A True Story. Particularly, it reminds me of the songs "Making Love to the Camera" and "Bedroom Talk." The way the singers use their voices - the high pitch to accentuate their points:
"I've got *big, big* plans. And *they've got* to mean something more *than just once.*" - "Bedroom Talk"
"*She* began to die, *Indiana,* it's not right." - "Indiana"
Obviously the girls (Meg & Dia) sustain the emphasis longer, and play with it more (the second "I can do whatever I want like you," the "you" is sang with much more implied expression that The Starting Line manage.) And both The Starting Line and M&D tend to speak their verses in contrast to the chorus (Like "so pale and white/determined and lost and ruined" in "Indiana")
I don't want to use the "emo" word, but partially what's going on is that bands like The Starting Line (emo) and Meg & Dia (teen-pop) are doing very similar things.
The other reason I like this comparison so much is that "Bedroom Talk" is a potentially very messy song. When it was released, I remember there was some discussion about its implications of rape. Unlike "Monster", which I contend is a dark song about dark topics, "Bedroom Talk" has the subversive up-beatVdarklyrics.
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Thursday, 10 August 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Just in case some of you don't look at the larger board, you should take a look at this thread. Brief summary so far: ilX is probably moving to a new server in the next two or three weeks, though possibly will stay where it is. Will probably keep the same format. Unclear if current threads (like this one) will be able to keep going or will be archived - in which case we can simply start a new one. Worst scenario would be that ilX dies altogether, in which case we could find somewhere else to reinvent this thread (though finding a place with single pages and no subthreads - which is one thing that makes ilX so much better than anywhere else - may be a problem). Anyway, just posting this so we can keep our eye on that thread and on developments.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Just powerful enough to read the promo sheet.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― nameom (nameom), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 11 August 2006 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Friday, 11 August 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― alext (alext), Friday, 11 August 2006 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― nameom (nameom), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link
And here's another performance of the same song, the sound clearer but thinner, the camera giving you a great view of her.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.pandora.com/?sc=sh123684599888936884
(Brie Larsen just segued into the Flower Kings, who seem to be singing about "looking for god's grace among cosmic dinosaurs" or something, so maybe they're Christian rock. Also, I don't think I like them; I'll probably nix them. But first I'll give 'em a chance.)
(Yeah, definitely Christians: "The untold Genesis of man," wow. Song just ended, and I'm still not sure how much I liked it. There was something psychedelic about it which I didn't mind. Now Christy Carlson Romano doing "Bounce," which I liked a lot right away.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Q: What are other people listening to? How do I find shared stations?
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link
They also seem to have every weirdo Disney one-off ever, people like Analiese Vanderpol and Zetta Bytes and Christy Carlson Romano (most of her stuff I've heard is great). They added better station editing options for fine tuning private stations, very cool.
Jessica Poptastic has a nice station, too, Poptastic Radio.
― nameom (nameom), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― nameom (nameom), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link
i love ashlee's voice when she has a song to match it - a big, hooky, pop/rock monster along the lines of 'la la' and 'boyfriend' which she can pretty much shout over. i don't think her vocal limitations are what make the album fail. but the songs! 'boyfriend' and 'LOVE' apart (and the latter...is actually awful, i think, clumsy and indecisive), there are no hooks. i have listened and listened to this album and i can't remember any melody or lyric or anything beyond this interminable sludge of guitars, over and over again (wtf are people ON about re stylistic variation) and ashlee's hoarse, slightly breathless voice left stranded above it all like a beached whale.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
The girls are all named (there are 9 of them) and they all get nicknames in the form of "___ Girl" like "Party Girl" and "All-Star Girl." Also, they get individual bios and the first thing is "Always Says" producing such answers as "Snap!" and "Guess what?" and "Whatever..." and "Oh yeah!" which I hope the girls will work on before they have to commit to a yearbook quote, because quite frankly those are super-indistinctive.
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
This may be one of our few major areas of disagreement!
I cannot see how stuff like "Coming Back For More", "Dancing Alone", "Burning Up", "I Am Me", "Eyes Wide Open" and "Kicking & Screaming" could be described as an "interminable sludge of guitars" with no hooks!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 August 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link
much much better - PARIS HILTON album. i will start a thread i think.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 17 August 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 17 August 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link
i have listened to this album LOADS in an effort to get it, it's worrying me as well, this is why i'm going on about it. but it's just so unremittingly uncatchy, it goes in one ear and out the other.
maybe if i skipped 'boyfriend' before listening to the rest.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:47 (seventeen years ago) link
[Sorry if this is a double-post; I'm getting poxy fuled all over the place]
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Radio Disney is hardly the only word in teenpop; MTV-TRL is another concentration of teenpower, one that isn't committed to pushing Disney product (though for all I know they have the same parent corporation at this point). Cheyenne Kimball - with an MTV reality show - is hanging on at 35 in mainstream pop airplay with 1,248 spins, while Hannah Montana is getting a big fat zero. And JoJo's "Too Little Too Late" is getting 3,612 spins and rising on mainstream pop, while not showing in the Disney Top 50.
By the way, do any of you know what Nickelodeon is doing to promote music, and to promote itself among teenpop fans? I don't have a TV and don't know if Nickelodeon has a musical impact or not.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm surprised Hilary's old stuff isn't showing higher, or Avril's. My guess is that you find them around 3 or 4 plays along with "I Got You" and "Get Ready For This" and "Jumpin Jumpin" and "Who Let the Dogs Out." I wonder if the new Hilary will get much Disney play, given that it's going for a glossy Kylie Minogue Eurodisco sound. And I'll bet that "London Bridge" is getting lotsa lotsa lotsa kid play but that Radio Disney won't touch it.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link