This is the thread where we talk about great Beach Boys+BW unreleased/demo/semi-released songs

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It would be great if somebody could skim off the best outtakes for a bootleg/collection of high bitrate or lossless files. Or maybe point me to sucha thing if it exists. I love BB but their bootlegs are always such daunting, sprawling messes.

lossless?? a lot of the most interesting stuff is only available as crackly-ass acetate demos. if you want good sound quality, you should look at the officially released outtake albums (hawthorne, ca etc.)

but yeah I'm (still) putting together a collection of my favorite rare stuff, but I'm drawing from like a dozen sources and the sound quality is often...realllly bad.

iatee, Friday, 5 February 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

someone call up Brian Wilson and tell him to get on this

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 February 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

this is basically gonna sound like a gbv album btw

iatee, Friday, 5 February 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

more or less final tracklist:

1. Beach Boys - Can't Wait Too Long
2. Beach Boys - Til I Die (Extended)
3. Beach Boys - Soulful Old Man Sunshine
4. Beach Boys - Santa Ana Winds
5. Beach Boys - You're Still A Mystery
6. Beach Boys - Sherry She Needs Me
7. Beach Boys - Big Sur (alt)
8. Beach Boys - Still I Dream Of It
9. Beach Boys - Stevie
10. Beach Boys - Old Man River
11. Beach Boys - Black Widow
12. Beach Boys - 4th of July
13. Beach Boys - Holy, Holy
14. Beach Boys - Carry Me Home
15. Beach Boys - You Are So Beautiful To Me (Live)
16. Beach Boys - Soul Searchin
17. Beach Boys - This Is Love (Piano Demo)
18. Beach Boys - Almost Summer (Demo)
19. Beach Boys - A Time To Live In Dreams
20. Beach Boys - Lonely Days
21. Beach Boys - It's Not Easy Being Me
22. Beach Boys - Land Ahoy (Outtake)
23. Beach Boys - Guess I'm Dumb (Instrumental)
24. Beach Boys - California Feeling
25. Beach Boys - Out in the Country
26. Beach Boys - I'm Going Your Way (AKA California Slide)
27. Beach Boys - Hard Time
28. Beach Boys - This Could Be The Night
29. Beach Boys - Endless Harmony
30. Beach Boys - I'm Beggin' You Please
31. Beach Boys - We Got Love
32. Beach Boys - Seasons in the Sun
33. Beach Boys - With a Little Help From My Friends
34. Beach Boys - You've Lost That Lovin Feeling
35. Beach Boys - I Was Made To Love Her (Extended)
36. Beach Boys - Loop De Loop
37. Beach Boys - Must Be a Miracle
38. Beach Boys - Won't You Tell Me
39. Beach Boys - Three Blind Mice
40. Beach Boys - It's Over Now (demo)
41. Beach Boys - Sound of Free
42. Beach Boys - Marilyn Rovell
43. Beach Boys - Back Home (1963 Version)
44. Beach Boys - Back Home (1970 Version)
45. Beach Boys - Prayer (Tracking Sessions)
46. Beach Boys - Time To Get Alone (Alt)
47. Beach Boys - Barbara (demo)
48. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (alt a capella)
49. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (alt sax solo)
50. Beach Boys - God Only Knows (Brian lead)
51. Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice (alt beginning)
52. Beach Boys - Dog Barking Session
53. Beach Boys - Surf's Up (TV - Brian solo)
54. Beach Boys - I Do (demo)
55. Beach Boys - Beginning Of The End
56. Beach Boys - Good Timin' (Midnight Special 79 - DW vocals)
57. Beach Boys - Looking Down The Coast
58. Beach Boys - Mona Kani
59. Beach Boys - That Special Feeling
60. Beach Boys - Walls (American Spring demo)
61. Beach Boys - Awake (American Spring demo)
62. Beach Boys - Diane (demo)
63. Beach Boys - Marching Along (Little Children)
64. Beach Boys - Thank Him
65. Beach Boys - It's a New Day
66. Beach Boys - Brian's Back
67. Beach Boys - Winter Symphony
68. Beach Boys - Child of Winter
69. Beach Boys - Our Team
70. Beach Boys - The Letter
71. Beach Boys - My Little Red Book

I'll put a link up later tonight

iatee, Friday, 5 February 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

dangggggg, looks amazing. probably heard like a third of this stuff ... can't wait!

tylerw, Friday, 5 February 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

whoah dude that's a lot of stuff!

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 February 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

ah the dog barking session...

The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 February 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I had to hold back from including more studio-chatter stuff, a lot of it is really amusing

iatee, Friday, 5 February 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I lol'd

tho - could have been more morbid if they used the actual audio clips of him

iatee, Friday, 5 February 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SU6MX5C1

first half

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

many thx!

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 6 February 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CCJZZCMX

part 2

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2010 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Excellent, thanks!

fit and working again, Saturday, 6 February 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks, iatee! can't wait to go on a Beach Boys rarities bender ...

tylerw, Saturday, 6 February 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

wow! been looking forward to this. thank you!!!

pobrecito (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 6 February 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

gah something on that megaupload site attacked my machine and now Windows is constantly opening up a "My Documents" window

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 6 February 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry, maybe I should have used a different site? could reupload it elsewhere if there's a more trustworthy one

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Very kind of you to put this together, thanks.

Mark, Saturday, 6 February 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

np it was fun

btw there is no real logic to the tracklisting beyond "I think this is worth listening to at least once if you're a hardcore fan"

about 1/3 of this stuff is officially released as a bonus track or on an obscure compilation, but I still included them.

also I basically added stuff when I thought of it, which means the quality of the material (generally) goes downhill in the second half. stuff like 'marilyn rovell' and 'child of winter' = empty calories.

I also don't particularly love any of the cover songs. I guess in a way it's interesting to see how a beach boys treatment of a song generally falls flat w/ a classic pop song.

OTOH a lot of the scratchy demo stuff is genius I think. compare the 'almost summer' demo w/ this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wftYCgkwrUw

I didn't include that much pet sounds or smile stuff, but I do think that switching the two first lines of 'wouldn't it be nice' has a small and strange effect on the meaning (emphasizing 'living together' instead of 'if we were older') the alternate versions of 'god only knows' are also just 'what if' moments.

ps

the track 'this is love' should be 'this isn't love'

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread is making me realise I haven't been giving the Beach Boys enough love and attention recently. It also makes me realise that my quest for BB stuff isn't exhausted yet. That version of Big Sur... man... If anyone can help me get any of these tracks that would be amazing!

dog latin, Saturday, 6 February 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry, missed the links above. iatee you are the best!

dog latin, Saturday, 6 February 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

np

but yeah that version of big sur is so much better than the original + probably the single best thing mike love's written (tho not sure who arranged it...)

I was in big sur once and it came on my ipod's shuffle and it was pretty great.

hmm I think I included the version that transitions into 'all I wanna do'...I'm not sure why it does (whether it's the bootleg or someone did it) but it sounds pretty.

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

other thoughts:

'good timin' w/ dennis might be my single favorite dw moment and is infinitely better than the original

there's no existing version of 'guess I'm dumb' w/ beach boys lyrics, only a glen campbell version which is still pretty good, but still a bb version woulda been a great track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5OXKRIyaxQ

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Megaupload is being a horrible bully wit me :-(

dog latin, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm I will upload them somewhere else

iatee, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

hope that works better

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, this is great. thank you so much.

p.s. that glen campbell song is amazing.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 8 February 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link

god I really got in the beach boys nerd mindset this week. being obsessed w/ beach boys rarities is really frustrating because so much of it is so much better than their released output. here's my complete alternate universe post-smile bb where someone w/ some degree of sanity is in charge of what goes on the albums. imo these would alll be 5*/5* albums, and sunflower + surf's up would be up there w/ pet sounds in a not-that-challopsy sense.

(ps, all of these songs existed / were recorded in time for the albums)

Wild Honey

1. Aren't You Glad
2. I Was Made To Love Her (extended)
3. Darlin'
4. Lonely Days
5. Let the Wind Blow
6. Country Air
7. Can't Wait Too Long
8. I'd Love Just Once To See You
9. Their Hearts Were Full of Spring

Friends
+ Old Man River + I Went To Sleep
- TM

20/20

1. We're Together Again
2. Never Learn Not To Love
3. Do It Again
4. I Can Hear Music
5. Time To Get Alone
6. A Time to Live In Dreams
7. Be With Me
8. Cabinessence
9. Our Prayer
10. Walk on By

Sunflower

1. Slip on Through
2. Add Some Music to Your Day
3. Lady
4. Forever
5. Celebrate the News
6. All I Wanna Do
7. Break Away
8. This Whole World
9. Cool, Cool Water
10. It's About Time
11. Soulful Old Man Sunshine

Surf's Up

1. It's a New Day
2. Big Sur (alt)
3. Long Promised Road
4. Surf's Up
5. A Day in the Life of a Tree
6. Feel Flows
7. Sound of Free
8. 4th of July
9. Barbara
10. Til I Die

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

thx for that - was wondering where/when some of the stuff on your collection came from

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

No 'Loop de Loop' on Sunflower? I love that song.

fit and working again, Monday, 8 February 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

my alternate history ends w/

carl and the passions - keep it the same

holland - + 'good timin' + 'we got love'

15 big ones - this album never happens

love you - keep it the same

(band breaks up)

this gives the beach boys a run of 10 amazing albums in a row! if you pretend like 'party' doesn't exist and delete the filler on today and summer days, it could be 12!

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I guess you can add loop de loop, but it'd be like the sloop john b of sunflower

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

15 big ones - this album never happens

lol

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like this so far iatee
If there are other songs I want to add, like like extra tracks from re-released albums or tracks from landlocked and adult child stuff I can easily do that myself

Soooo am I the only one hearing "big tits" in the song 'Hard Time'

stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Monday, 8 February 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Soooo am I the only one hearing "big tits" in the song 'Hard Time'

^^^NO! me and my wife were listening to this and both did a double-take. the wife also thought that "Stevie" was Brian's ode to his television lol

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure they actually are saying 'big tits' (was then undirtified and turned into 'ding dang')

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

also megalolz at Our Prayer studio banter ("you guys feelin that acid yet?" "Denny I know you got some more of those hash joints")

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

the wife also thought that "Stevie" was Brian's ode to his television lol

I don't think anyone knows much about this track...who knows, it could be about his tv. (saint etienne do a good cover version tho)

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that's the thing, given Brian's songwriting habits writing an ode to his TV isn't really all that much of a stretch. Maybe the song's title really IS "TV" lolz

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

According to the (heavily Landy-doctored) autobiography "Wouldn't It Be Nice", Brian wrote and recorded a huge number of demos as part of his therapy called things like "Bring Your Comb", "Stop Carnie From Eating So Many Peanut Butter Sandwiches Around Me" and "Quit Using My Toothpaste". So no it wouldn't surprise me either.

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"Stop Carnie From Eating So Many Peanut Butter Sandwiches Around Me"

this sounds like the best brian wilson song ever

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

"Stop Carnie From Eating So Many Peanut Butter Sandwiches Around Me"

...later a hit for belinda carlisle!

i have a hard time thinking that WILD HONEY could be improved. and i seem to like FRIENDS way more than most, even those who like "later" (post-67) BB a lot.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

frieds is my favorite bb album!

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

err with 'friends' as a close second

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL "frieds" brian wilson's concept album about fatty foods

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

he's certainly had a love/hate relationship with them

iatee, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link


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