Songs with militaristic drumming

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In Europe, there are two very important schools of drumming and they relate to the army. That's the Swiss Army and the Scottish army. It's the Black Watch in Scotland and the Basel Drum School

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

from here

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"Johnny Was" by the Stiff Little Fingers

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

it'll be interesting to let the selections accrue for a bit, and then see what percentage of the songs have nothing to do with war/the military or, um, baked beans...

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link

CRASS

Ivan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sorry...you're right, it was in bad taste for me to bring baked beans into the discuss-

oh, you mean the band!...sorry...

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

There was some tortured argument in Peter Shapiro's Turn The Beat Around about how it was hypocritical of funk drummers to look down on disco drummers for being mechanical since somehow the logical reductio ad absurdium ideal of such drumming, with its origin in martial, second-line parade beats, was to be as mechanical as possible, but this argument never got off the ground with me.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost Hey it happens!

I guess I should cite specific examples. A good chunk of their first album, The Feeding of the 5000 has that militaristic drumming down pat. And Rimbaud has this "rat-tat-a-tat-a" drum fill in almost EVERY Crass song.

Ivan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

second line beats /= military drumming. as i understand it, it's basically what happened to the euro military style after meeting afro-cuban influences in new orleans.

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Proceeding from there, The Ex, Dog Faced Hermans, etc.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Tommy gun- the clash
and that new M.I.A track that samples "Straight to Hell", forget title

outdoor_miner, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

second line beats /= military drumming. as i understand it, it's basically what happened to the euro military style after meeting afro-cuban influences in new orleans.
Yeah, that's a good point. Earl Palmer and Idris away from thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

David Holmes - No Man's Land

Kaliova, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Grateful Dead-St. Stephen. The version on Live/Dead

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Outkast - Morris Brown

chap, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

U2 to thread.
And I think probably Big Country and The Alarm as well.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Funkadelic "Uncle Jam's Army", "Field Maneuvers"

-- Shakey Mo Collier

...and "March To The Witch's Castle"

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Trying to resist posting just anything with a snare drum: Dave Clark Five, "Rain," etc.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Jefferson Airplane "White Rabbit"

and there's a song on Mayhem's Grand Declaration of War that has some crazy fast marches...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

50 ways to leave your lover - -

The Doodletown Fifers

You Pulled me UP - talking heads

Latham Green, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Othar Turner

Jordan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Vitalic - Fanfares

Alba, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

The Pretty Things - Provate Sorrow

Lolpez, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

'no closure', piano magic

akm, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Does Yello's "Bostich" really have "militaristic drumming"? It heavily features the snare drum, sure, but the beat is actually quite complex, not metronomic/march-like at all.

Tuomas, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe just the intro, after that it's straight disco, right?

Jordan, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Kyuss-"Supa Scoopa and Mighty Scoop"

C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

portishead - mysteron

ledge, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Jack Bruce - "The Clearout"

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

not the full song, but "Baby Wants To Ride" (Frankie Knuckles/Jamie Principle) has that neat lil' rat-a-tat-tat break...("America!...clap your hands...I thought we loved each other...do you feel free?")

henry s, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Last night I remembered that story about when Miles Davis wanted Tony Williams to go heavy on the snare he told him "play that 'Rat Patrol' stuff."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

To tell the truth, I don't know what exactly Tony was supposed to play to get that "Rat Patrol" sound, but it sure sounds like it should be militaristic.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I always thought the end part of "Hunted" by Pale Saints was kind of militaristic, especially those snare rolls. But it's in 5/4 which makes it a bit of a bummer to dance to.

Rob M v2, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I was just wondering if any of those twee Sarah bands ever employed militaristic drumming, 'cos wouldn't that be a contrast...Pale Saints come pretty close...

henry s, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link


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