My original post might've been a bit ambiguous but I was trying to say that Gira sometimes used Swans as a vehicle for songs he'd then play solo, so it doesn't feel surprising that he would have a reformed "Swans" playing an old solo song. And if Swans is essentially Gira + backing randomers then really what is the point of a Swans at all?
― Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Well all I can say to that last point is that I saw Swans in '86, '87, '92, '95 and '97. In '97 I saw them thirty times. Each one of those tours had different people in the line-up as regards guitar, bass and drums. Other than Gira, Jarboe was the only constant. None of that mattered, they were all Swans and each one as powerful as the other.
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
It's like, y'know, six months from now, I can't see myself missing Jarboe more than I might miss Ross McLochness, or Ronnie Pudding, or Danny Upham, or Little Danny Schindler, or any of those.
― Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd love to see vudi and joe goldring and basically the same people on sountracks tour with gira since I missed all those shows last time.
― akm, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I vote for a Swans All Star Review Kinda Thing with five lineups and sets per night.
― StanM, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
(review? is that even remotely like the word I was looking for? :-/ )
― StanM, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
More news here. Westberg is on board, fab.
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG
― Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
now we're talking
― sleeve, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
yes!
― stirmonster, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Ivan likes this.
― Ivan, Sunday, 10 January 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Stan agrees with Ivan.
― StanM, Sunday, 10 January 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
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It's like, y'know, six months from now, I can't see myself missing Jarboe more than I might miss Ross McLochness, or Ronnie Pudding, or Danny Upham, or Little Danny Schindler, or any of those."
LOL!
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 10 January 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
First show announced (but not necessarily the first show they'll play, if you get my meaning), at a festival in Birmingham, the armpit of the United Kingdom.
http://www.capsule.org.uk/supersonic/
― anagram, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Guys, I have a friend who has a friend in the current Swans lineup. Word is that the album is finished already, and that Swans are lining up a sizeable US tour. Austin is on the agenda (which is all I care about, really) but I expect they'll hit a good number of cities, not just the NYC/Cali circuit or anything.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
thor is stoked
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
St. Helens is the armpit of the UK. Birmingham is it's massive and pattable belly. Also, if anyone hasn't attended Supersonic yet they should think about rectifying that mistake.
― Doran, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been meaning to make it over for a while
― swag surfer blood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Supersonic is a wonderful festival. I've been for the last three years and loved it every time.
― krakow, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a feeling they'll either play an ATP-promoted show while they're over here, or headline/curate of the December Butlins things.
Genuinely stoked to see them live, it's going to be mythic.
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
*one of the
First round of tour dates announced, you lucky lucky Americans.
09-28 Philadelphia, PA - Trocadero Theater09-29 Washington, DC - Black Cat09-30 Boston, MA - Middle East10-01 Montreal, Quebec - Pop Montreal Festival10-02 Toronto, Ontario - Lee's Palace10-04 Detroit, MI - Crofoot Ballroom10-05 Chicago, IL - Bottom Lounge10-08 Brooklyn, NY - Brooklyn Masonic Temple10-09 New York, NY - Bowery Ballroom10-22-24 Birmingham, England - Supersonic Festival
― anagram, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Classic up through Children of Light. Good all the way through. No duds.
― ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
tix on sale for philly, nyc, and boston now
― (e_3) (Edward III), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
uk tour dates:
October 21 Cyprus Avenue, Cork
October 22 Button Factory, Dublin
October 24 Supersonic Festival, Birmingham
October 25 Arches, Glasgow
October 28 Koko, London
October 29 Uni Stylus, Leeds
October 30 Academy, Manchester
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I shall Koko.
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
That's the Sunday of Supersonic then, presumably in the slot Goblin were in last year.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh jaysus Koko, why?
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyhoo, Neubauten weekend then Swans a few days later, going to be a heavy October
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Also Brighton on Oct 27, I'll be there and at Koko.
― anagram, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Brussels, Ancienne Belgique, Nov. 25
― StanM, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
and – omg – Vienna Arena, 7 Dec. Now we're talking.
― anagram, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Vienna - woohoo!
― Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
man I wanna go to vienna
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
see you there Jack
― anagram, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
No Newcastle?? Motherfucker...
― Officer Pupp, Thursday, 27 May 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Band pics, cover art (so that's the album title then?)
http://younggodrecords.com/Gallery/?C=116
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, it is.
"Michael Gira announced on June 13, 2010, through the Young God Records page on Facebook and his personal Facebook account, that the next Swans album will be titled My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky, and is set to be released on September 14, 2010." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swans_(band)#Post-breakup_.26_reformation_.281997-present.29 )
― StanM, Saturday, 10 July 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
WAIT! The drummer from Shearwater wasn't originally in the Swans, was he??
― ksh, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, he wasn't
― ksh, Saturday, 10 July 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
How can you guide someone up a rope?
― disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Saturday, 10 July 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Seriously seriously thinking I should go see them at Lee's.
― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 17 July 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Had you ever seen them before? You might as well -- at the same time I just can't get behind a Swans lineup (at this stage) without Jarboe.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 July 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't actually seen them before, no! Big problem is I'm not really sure what to expect and not sure I'm in the mood for the old-school grinding but have a suspicion it won't be like the (Jarboe-including) stuff that is the material of theirs that I generally prefer...hm..
― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 17 July 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
it's gonna mostly sound like the live stuff from the last two tours on Swans Are Dead
― margana (anagram), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think so.
New album is one of their best. Seriously. Uncompromising, beautiful, unforgiving.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 18 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/39600-new-swans-eden-prison/
― StanM, Saturday, 31 July 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
and samples of all the tracks: http://younggodrecords.com/Releases/Detail.asp?C=2343
― StanM, Saturday, 31 July 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't just pluck the comparison out of the air, that is what Gira himself said it was going to sound like. And from the parts I've heard so far he's not far off.
― margana (anagram), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
some of us liked Swans better before Jarboe joined
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link