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No. He's getting worse and worse. Terrible flow, worse lyrics.

Tape Store, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

How he should have split the beats:
"Can't Tell Me Nothin" >>> Chuck D
"Good Life" >>> Lil Mama
"Champion" >>> Lil Wayne
"Homecoming" >>> T.I.
"Stronger" >>> Trash Can

Tape Store, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"Good Life" >>> Lil Mama

this is the worst idea ever.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

kanye is a good MC. lono

No. He's getting worse and worse. Terrible flow, worse lyrics. tru

luriqua, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't nec. disagree w/ young tape store, but i wouldn't classify kanye as a "bad" MC.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

meaning i don't nec. disagree w/ the notion that he raps better on college dropout on late reg.

i still like his "flow"/lyrics

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Meh, he's an MC who makes me NOT want to listen to the songs. I feel like his flow got better on Grad but fuck if his lyrics still pull me out of the song.

"Just last year Chicago had over 600 caskets,
Man, killing is wack-ass shit.
Oh I forgot, except when niggas is rappin'.
Do you know what it feels like when people is passin'?"

If you're gonna introduce this type of thematic shit in your lyrics, you can't put this up. YES YE, I'M SURE THOSE OTHER MCs DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE.

Jamesy, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

i'll tie you to a chair and make you eat ur own defecation 8>

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luriqua, Sunday, 2 September 2007 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I can wait a week to hear something that isn't a clean version.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 2 September 2007 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

no one has made the connection that drunk hot girls = sing swan song

cutty, Sunday, 2 September 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

kurupt - stalkin >>>>>> pharcyde - hey you >>>> pete nice & daddy rich >>>> drunk hot girls

and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

were those rip offs of sing swan song too?

cutty, Sunday, 2 September 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

vitamin c

and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Drunk Hot Girls" is the worst song ever.

milo z, Sunday, 2 September 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Damnit, we get it! Paste Magazine was right!

Tape Store, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

big brother is one of the best rap songs all year and one of kanyes best songs everrr IMO

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

the album seems a bit hurried though - like he hasnt spent as much time on it as the others.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 2 September 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread makes me weep for the children

strongohulkington, Sunday, 2 September 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

or maybe the man-children

strongohulkington, Sunday, 2 September 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

the album seems a bit hurried though - like he hasnt spent as much time on it as the others.

Too much time on coke/ecstacy/sluts/hipsters retroactively soaking up Daft Punk (too late, Swizz did this earlier and better) and trying to make Puffy circa 1998 music videos in misguided attempt to catch up with the cool kids he was always too nerdy to hang with until he realized in that typically coked-out megalomaniacal way that he was the biggest pop star ever. P.S. Common looks so Obi Wan on that new album - stay in Brooklyn loser, Chi doesn't need you and never did.

Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Kanye was doing beats for Bad Boy artists in '98, I don't think he needed to "catch up" with what Puffy was doing back then.

Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sure he'll appreciate the advice.

(xpost)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Or whatever the hell your bizarre coked-out rant was trying to say. (xpost)

Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you seen the Stronger video? It's like a throwback to 1998, but in an era where no one watches MTV any more.

This album sucks, Kanye got on the synth bandwagon too late and hasn't figured them out yet. He's trying to replace the old retro-soul-vibe with this hamfisted future aesthetic (those idiotic glasses!) but cannot pull it off. I blame new friends and the addiction to that drug... uh, I guess he said fame in that mixtape, so nm.

P.S. Did I hurt you guyses feelings?

Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Kanye was doing beats for Bad Boy artists in '98, I don't think he needed to "catch up" with what Puffy was doing back then.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:28 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

madd rapper suicide pact

and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you seen the Stronger video? It's like a throwback to 1998

i don't see the problem

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

the jordan sargent "svelte" of approval

and what, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.willisms.com/archives/randysavage.jpg

Gavin, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

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Dom Passantino, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

]At another wedding Gregg Kaminsky and his partner wore matching Burberry ties. They tied a Burberry scarf around their dog, a Jack Russell terrier, and sent him racing up the aisle with their wedding rings.

Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 2 September 2007 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Have you seen the Stronger video? It's like a throwback to 1998, but in an era where no one watches MTV any more.

This album sucks, Kanye got on the synth bandwagon too late and hasn't figured them out yet. He's trying to replace the old retro-soul-vibe with this hamfisted future aesthetic (those idiotic glasses!) but cannot pull it off. I blame new friends and the addiction to that drug... uh, I guess he said fame in that mixtape, so nm.

P.S. Did I hurt you guyses feelings?

-- Gavin, Sunday, September 2, 2007 10:35 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I agree that Kanye's synth work on the album could be better and it's kind of a weird aesthetic fit for him, and that the 'futuristic' videos/clothes are cheesy and he's letting A-Trak or whoever turn him onto some wack hipster shit. But, as a great man once said: "No hard feelings. You just sound like a chump."

Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 2 September 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont think his synth work is that bad at all. its not like hes trying to sound like say, jeezys producers. hes just trying to combine it with his own thing.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i like those glasses

max, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

my dad used to have a pair like that in red

max, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

This is by far his best album, imo, but that's coming from someone who liked about 75% of his first one, maybe 50% of his second and, despite thinking he's an awesome producer, I've never liked his flow, or most of his lyrics.

Suffice it to say, the production, lyrics and flow on this album are by far his most solid. He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).

He's still not the greatest rapper, but this is definitely a solid album. "Drunk and Hot girls" was a grower, but I love that track now. And "Everything I Am" with the primo scratches is awesome.

Much like with the new Arcade Fire, an artist who I found to have an overrated album / persona came back with an album that actually justified their hype, proving that I'm not always an elitist asshole who hates popular music.

Erock Zombie, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).

you mean "rhyming"?

max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i have totally been on the nuts of 'good life' all day today. thanks emoti-kanye.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link

He's not just doing that fuckin' annoying thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over ("She was supposed to get TYco with the money, she went and got LYpo with the money, she should've got insured GEico with your money" ... ugh).

Don't ever fix your lips like collagen
then say something where you gon end up apologin
Let me know if it's a problem then
aight man holla then

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously max otm.

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah totally, i like those verses, not annoying to me.

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i know i was being sarcastic but i cant parse the sentence "that... thing where he rhymes the same sounding thing over and over" any other way

max, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

He uses the 'word' "apologin"!!

From what i've heard, "Good Life" is easily the best track, and I attribute 65% of its awesomeness to T. Pain's contribution...30% to the beat (Go PYT sample!)...5% to Kanye's verses (obv. Kanye's production belongs in that 95% chunk...I love how he treates T. Pain as an instrument rather than as some quirky guest vocalist)

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, 65% is a bit high. Give more to the beat.

Tape Store, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:55 (sixteen years ago) link

if "champion" doesn't end up being a single i'll probably end up liking it the best a year from now as one of those tracks on his albums that are as good as the singles but since it isn't a single you don't get tired of hearing it ("spaceship," get 'em high," "drive slow," "gone" etc.)

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

altho i guess drive slow was a single (or had a video) but it didn't do shit so it doesn't really count.

Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"A-Trak is a part of our whole scene. He plays everything across the board. He just loves music. I know he introduced Kanye to a lot of things, one thing in particular was the movie Anchorman (laughs). And now Kayne quotes the movie in his songs all the time and you can hear it."

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Let me know if it's a problem then
aight man holla then

-- Tape Store, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 4:44 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

oh man, the long long pause between those two lines is infuriating. also "they say I talk with so much emphasis..................ooh they so sensitive!"

I don't think anyone should want to take credit for 'introducing' Kanye to <i>Anchorman</i>, I mean he was quoting shit like <i>Happy Gilmore</i> well before that anyway. Kanye is like a walking Snorg shirt.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

A-Trak understands the importance of the dress.

mh, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

the problem with kanye

for example these two lines:
Let me know if it's a problem then
aight man holla then

that second one is completely extraneous

this seems to be the case for almost 25% of his lyrics
if my calculations are correct

kl0pper, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link


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