― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
Jez Varley's little bro sorted out my first berry - what a claim to fame. Nice guy, but sorry LFO really aren't very good.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
i fail to see what makes e.g. Plaid better or more interesting.
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
'Sheath' wears it's back to basics declaration on it's sleeve. i thought u-ziq's 'Bilious Paths' was probably better tho.
is 'Homogenic' the best produced of the Bjork albums?
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
"Vorhees", "Tied Up" and that other track Gez Varley worked on on the album are all throwaways to me though. I think Psychodelik should have been the single, obv, but that was about when I started to realize what other people liked about techno and what I liked about techno were often very diff. things (cf. "We Have Explosive" being the single off of Dead Cities and Ventolin being the single from ICBYO, wtf is that)
The little piano chord loop in Psychodelik with the goofy buzzing monotone bassline, I could listen to that all day really. I am, in my head.
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Plaid can write tunes and don't sound like a four year old randomly hitting a cheap bontempi organ on the "special fx" voice.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
No, I've tried all there albums and I've never been able to put my finger on why they were supposed to be so great. The noises sound cheap and tacky, the few hooks they have grate on me, none of the tracks give me any kind of vibe or feeling. It's just really clinical minimal techno and it just sounds amateurish to me. I know a lot of bedroom boffins who could pound something better than any of the tracks on Sheath within a couple of hours. Oh, and Homogenic's production isn't THAT good c'mon!
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Bleep techno was some of the first music I remember liking and I loved "LFO" (the tune) when it first came out. I listen to the Warp "Classics" album now and it really does sound dated. There are a couple of good ones like "Join The Future" and "Testone" but I feel Mark Bell never learnt to make new sounds. Or get any ideas for that.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
*phew* it's stopped now.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
all going out of time and hitting itself. that's not good, it's lazy gypsy-skilled programming. please don't compare it to plaid chzthx.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Quality arguing, all week, on ILM!
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
(xpost -- DL you're stepping over the line by talking shit about "Loch Ness"!)
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link
What the hell are you talking about? Have you ever listened to the dancer in the dark sndtrk he did with bjork? I pretty much hate bjork outside of Birthday by the Sugarcubes, but that record is brilliant. His production is spot on, the writing is solid, and the arrangements are great. It is an objectively good record from a technical standpoint, regardless of your aesthetic sensibilities.
The problem with that last record was that it was poorly sequenced. It jumped all over the place between the deeper more abstract chill tracks, which were the best part of the record, and loud dance tracks which were so-so. The problem was Bell never gave the music a chance to establish a mood through the course of the record. A lot of people never gave that record a chance, and they missed out bigtime on some great tracks.
I took four of the more mellow IDM jams a lined them up in a row without the dance stuff on a mix cd last year and about 40% of the people I sent it to were shocked about how good those tracks were and how they regreted not giving the album more time. It was odd how much that sentiment was echoed in the responces I got from that mix. I think Freek got all the attention and it wasn't so hot, so everyone just assumed that it was a retro 90's rave album and let it slip through the cracks. The quiet moments are the ones that really shine on Sheath.
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link
what's the best starter album to heard from LFO?
― Anko (Anko), Friday, 3 September 2004 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
frequencies is one of my favorite warp albums too. actually it's probably one of my favorite albums ever.
― tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete badmusik (pete badmusik), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― etc, Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Orbital's "Chime" and "Belfast" are also from that time period, and I think they will also draw a lot of votes in the poll.
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link
why?
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
why is a CD copy of "advance" so hard to find?
because it has the best techno song ever on it, duh
― El Tomboto, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I just really, really, really love the shuffle and the sounds on this one
― El Tomboto, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Is it really that hard to find? A quick check reveals you can order the CD even through a local online record store (www.cdon.com), whose catalogue is probably a hundred times smaller than the biggest online stores.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link
-- dog latin (dog latin),
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost i didn't say "hard to find in finland / the EU" dumbass
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh sorry, I forgot you live in USA.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link
about Sheath:
I took four of the more mellow IDM jams a lined them up in a row without the dance stuff on a mix cd last year and about 40% of the people I sent it to were shocked about how good those tracks were and how they regreted not giving the album more time..
that sounds like a good idea actually
― lukas, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link
back to Advance ... TIED UP TIED UP TIED UP. i want to be killed by that song.
― lukas, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link
i have that mix of mike's and w/ the four LFO tracks and it's sounds as good as he says
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's a gift for you LFO fans, in case you don't already have it:
LFO - Slow Down Speedy
I think this tune was only released on an ancient Volume CD, plus on The Best of Volume comp. It's quite fun!
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link
here's the thing. you're right, tuomas, i could get a copy off amazon.com right now.
but alec empire albums from the mid-90s go for $1-5 dollars apiece on amazon and ebay. you can get plaid albums, squarepusher albums, autechre albums for a penny, 50 cents, 99 cents if you dig.
i've been looking for years and years and i haven't found a copy of advance *anywhere* for less than $10!
what gives
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe it's just better than the ones you've listed? I'd definitely sell my 90's ATR, Squarepusher, and Autechre records for cheap too, because I find them mostly crap these days and never listen to them.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link
There are certain records you never find in the used records bins either, 'cause people just don't want to sell them. In August I had to go through half of Berlin's record stores to find some old Air Liquide CDs.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link
are u not a downloady guy moonship
cos found a link for it straight away pretty much if u want
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 November 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i have a burned copy, i just like the physical artifact.
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 30 November 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks for that Link Tuomas. Listened to LFO a lot last week actually.
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 30 November 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link