Oh God, NME Tries To Start Yet Another New Movement ..... SHROOMADELICA - The music movement that will 'weird up your head',

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New? I would imagine it goes a lot further back than when Lamacq started out.

Alexei, Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:06 (twenty years ago) link

well that was probably a new version of something else. perhaps "updated" rather than "new"

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:07 (twenty years ago) link

no, i don't think it does go back all that far - prior to Lamacq was Britpop which is its own kettle of fish, and prior to that the phenomenon didn't really exist in the same way..

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:08 (twenty years ago) link

i'm thinking about this far more than i really should

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:08 (twenty years ago) link

But Lamacq was the 1st to play all the britpop bands wasnt he?
And what I mean is that plenty of people could've called 'Shoegazer' shit nme music or any scene coverd by NME since...whenever.

Alexei, Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:10 (twenty years ago) link

it evolved:

Shit NME music
Shilola NME music
shoe shine nme bands
shoe shnme bands
shoegazer bands

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 April 2004 07:22 (twenty years ago) link

can we get a consigment of acid house to this thread please, yep it's urgent.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:24 (twenty years ago) link

Wahey!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 09:32 (twenty years ago) link

Until there's a movement entirely based around 'comedowns' I'm still not fuckin' interested in music

dave q, Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

Psychedelia was revived in the '80s by the likes of Plasticland, Plan 9, and Rain Parade, and it has never really gone away since (granted, it was quite rare in the '70s). Through the '90s 'til now, we've had a steady flow of tribal, improv, and noise bands floating about, many of which have very psychedelic undertones at least. Now, in addition to that, we have the free/improv/psych folk sound from various corners of the world. Coral-esque bands are just one of the myriad facets of psychedelic sound. Celebrate the diversity!

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 22 April 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

OK, embarrassing confessions time. I think I like The Delays. They were namechecked in this awful, awful article, which I read while waiting in line in a record shop. Which is about the time necessary to read the NME these days. But then the girl at the counter put this lovely lovely record on, which was all tremolo guitar and I thought it was a GURL singing and it sounded a bit like the Sundays sitting by the sea.

So I bought the album (which turned out to be The Delays) and exactly three songs sound like that. And the rest of it is Doomie-bait sub-Byrdsian La's style jingle jangle. Sigh.

(If there were a style of music I could be said to hate, it would be Lame Kerrang Bands. There was an interview with the bloke what runs it in the Camden New Journal a few weeks ago, coz apparently Kerrang is run out of Camden and I wanted to stick a pencil in his eye by the end of it.)

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 07:22 (twenty years ago) link

Funny, I went into HMV Oxford street a couple weeks ago, the Delays were doing a promo/live spot. They played the single, OK, nice fine enough, then the Next track was as you say, La's lite. Hmm, I thought. Bet their Second album wont sound like this one...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 07:31 (twenty years ago) link

But the album was sequenced really well, in that the three, dreamy, Sundays-ish tremolo-y songs are right at the start. So you can just hit eject when they start to go all Las, and put in the Boo Radleys instead.

I don't think they're the greatest anything ever, and I'd never start a movement around them, but their singer's voice is really nice. He sounds like a GURL and that is the highest compliment I can give someone.

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 07:35 (twenty years ago) link

(They're not particularly psychedelic, either.)

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 07:35 (twenty years ago) link

They honestly put the Delays in the 'psychedelic' bit?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:46 (twenty years ago) link

coz apparently Kerrang is run out of Camden

not true, but the current editor 4shl3y B1rd lives right near the tube.

Also, Delays* are lovely and mmm. Singer sounds like Geneva's Andrew Montgomery, which is a bit of a bind for Andrew Montgomery who apparently now has a new band.

*there is no "The". There was never a "The". The band apparently spend half their time runnung around like Lynn Truss, armed with scissors, marker pens and Tippex, altering posters...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago) link

I guess "Radiohead crossed with the La's" would make everyone fall asleep! xpost.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

Too many people seem to conflate "psychedelic" with "summer sunshine pop". Sure, there are overlaps from the Beach Boys and Byrds on down, but they're not the same thing.

Delays are definitely Summer Sunshine Pop, but psychedelic? As psychedelic as milk!

x-post with Chuck... oh. I assumed Kerrang was run out of Camden, but if he lives in Camden, that makes him a "famous Camdenite". Apparently. I mean, the CNJ can't just go on running endless features about the Bloomsbury Movement, can they, but still! Kerrang? Fuck off!

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

Kerrang! is based in EMAP Towers or whatever, surely?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago) link

Kate - http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1913

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

wtf Bark Psychosis on production duties??? or was that a joke?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:57 (twenty years ago) link

Nick S, you're right on most counts about that album. Hairstylists? Well, they want to paint my toenails, that's for sure.

OK, that's it, I'm writing to the CNJ to complain about Kerrang's inclusion when they should be covered only in the Southark Shite Journal or some such rag. THIS IS A LOCAL PAPER FOR LOCAL PEOPLE, NOW KEEP THAT NASTY BOYROCK OUT OF IT!!!

(I heart the CNJ, it is the best local paper ever, so much better than that pseudo-socialist Islington nonsense I read on the 19 the other day.)

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 08:59 (twenty years ago) link

No Charlie, that's true.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

Graham's a producer these days a lot of the time, I gather. I l;ook on it rather like ex-footballers going into management.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I'm working on becoming a "songwriter-producer" a la Jeff Barry, myself. ;-)

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:11 (twenty years ago) link

Your perfect job would surely be "songwriter-producer-svengali" running a bubblegum punk pop band a la Busted. You'd get to write and produce their stuff, cream off a tidy wad of cash AND perve all over shaggy 19 year olds.

Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:33 (twenty years ago) link

Tam Paton?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

Ricardo, it's TRUE. Grrr, were you standing behind me at the gig where I was drunkenly expounding on my plans to do exactly this?

Except I think I'd run a girlband rather than a boyband. So then I wouldn't run the risk of actually sleeping with any of them and getting arrested or the like...

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:36 (twenty years ago) link

Kerrang, Mixmag, Q and Mojo all on the same floor of a building on a side road off Oxford Street.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:41 (twenty years ago) link

I'm trying to think where the actual boundary line of Camden ends...

Or is it South of Oxford Street and therefore not in the weird aberration area of Camden at all?

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

"Mornington Crescent"?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

comments re Delays = La's-Lite make my stoopid comment re Shroom' scene figureheads = Cast not that stoopid anymore. gosh.

mark e (mark e), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:46 (twenty years ago) link

North side, practically above HMV.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

I thought it was a GURL singing

I know! I've been thinking that since I first heard them, then I learned otherwise the other week and my head hurt.

Graham's production is I think the secret to their success at their best. It's not him making them sound like BP or anything, more like he's got a great ear for teasing out some unexpectedly strong arrangements.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

I came home this evening to find HSA lying on the floor listening to Nearer Than Heaven or whatever it's called over and over and over again. So that song is worth Carolanning, but I don't really expect much more from them.

(Have low hopes from bands, then you'll never be disappointed.)

Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

Kate, check the last track again, it's great. And the steel drums in the opener! And the ambient keyboard hook in the third track! And bin the rest. I put those four tracks on my iPod.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 April 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

I've really enjoyed this thread so far. I guess I've been disappointed with new UK bands for quite awhile now but keep hoping some will turn up someday. I've heard two tracks from the new Beta Band and am eagerly awaiting that, but that isn't really the same as a brand new band. The whole shroomadelica thing sounds ridiculous, as one would expect from NME.

What does it mean when someone says "xpost", though? I mean, obviously they're saying "cross post" but I can't figure out what they mean by that. I would think this might be explained in the FAQ, but no luck, there.

bimble (bimble), Saturday, 24 April 2004 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

Xpost means you typed it and hit submit, but that someone else had posted a message in the interim which may or may not affect the context of your own message.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 24 April 2004 06:48 (twenty years ago) link

Sure makes a lot of sense now. Thanks.

bimble (bimble), Sunday, 25 April 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago) link

not to be confused with the Psychedelimush movement of 2001.

gas, Sunday, 25 April 2004 06:19 (twenty years ago) link

I've heard two tracks from the new Beta Band and am eagerly awaiting that, but that isn't really the same as a brand new band.

I'm sure the Bees have been making records for as long as i've been a hack too.

stevie (stevie), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:49 (twenty years ago) link

From http://microsites.nme.com/thisweek/index.html
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND - Why watching it's the nearest thing to getting mashed off your nut on shrooms.

They're gonna keep running with this Shroomadelica pish aren't they?

Alexei, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

I'd expect it's partially because you can buy them legally now from some market stall in Camden. There's a legal loophole, or something.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

I would definitely like to resurrect this thread. I have now gone to the trouble of listening to some of the bands mentioned here, along with a few other new bands that have gotten rave reviews on ilx and I must say The Bees win hands down. Perhaps someone will be offended if I reveal that they sound like the Beta Band to me, and that's plenty enough to keep me interested. The Bees and Beta Band represent music that to me sounds like something totally new and inventive, or at the very least *different*, and bursting with a refreshing, anything-goes kind of creativity. They really seem to underscore what now looks suddenly and strangely like a very apparent problem for Radiohead: not enough black influences.

I eagerly anticipate the arrival of the entire Bees album, although come to think of it, they probably have more than one. Thank you Stevie for turning me on to them.

bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:24 (twenty years ago) link

I notice, the top letter on the letters page is basically, OH THANK YOU NME FOR SHROOMADELICA I'M IN HEAVEN!

Alright, which one of you sarc barsts wrote in?

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:33 (twenty years ago) link

i think its funny!

the bees have done nothing for me. dunno why?

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:35 (twenty years ago) link

the bees bore me senseless, not unlike the beta bland

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:38 (twenty years ago) link

the beta bland are so dull now. they have turned into embrace! you should check out sketchbook records and the earlies, jim. wait, you already have!

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:39 (twenty years ago) link

Well, what's so great about The Earlies then? They either sound like Flaming Lips when they have vocals, or they're just electronic noodlers.

bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:54 (twenty years ago) link


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