― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link
is electro big?
i have been wondering this elsewhere. rihanna convinced me maybe it is.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link
ElectroElectroclashElectronic Synth-PopElectroHouse???
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Enrique, I think you discredit the kind of impact Electroclash did have, although you're right about it being a part of the 80s revival which is what I've also been saying. While Electroclash was only seen as a significant movement among the dance cogniscienti (and even they saw it as a fad before it had even begun), I think it had a much bigger impact on the mainstream in the long run.
Getting back to the Radiohead subject, I don't think a track like Idioteque would have been realised without an electro revival. Elsewhere you can compare the sound of the Spice Girls with Girls Aloud and the latter have a distinct electro flavour as opposed to the comparably polished sound of the Spice Girls.
A revival in the Electro sound is just reinforcing the trend that things happening roughly 20-25 years ago tend to get romanticised and revived in a mainstream way whereas stuff that came out 10-15 years ago is seen as embarassing and untrendy. This is not really news, it's just typical of what happens. The 90s were all about the 60s (Oasis, Britpop in general) and 70s; the 80s were all about the 50's (Shakin Stevens, The Stray Cats) and 60's (The Specials, The Jam)
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't think a track like Idioteque would have been realised without an electro revival.
Despite pre-dating electroclash by a year or two? What nonsense.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Despite pre-dating electroclash by a year or two and sounding sonically completely different? What nonsense.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link
fandango, they're all the same thing really aren't they? just from different years. Like all styles of dance music, Electro has had to evolve over time. It's like saying "When people say 'I like House' I don't know what they mean".
What year was Kid A? 2001? Two Lone Swordsmen's "Tiny Reminders" from 2000 was a keystone in the Electro revival and it turned a lot of people onto that sound, especially Warp fans of the time, like Thom Yorke and myself. Before that album I didn't really know what Electro was supposed to be. Idioteque is more than a passing nod to that album.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link
what's more 'radical' though, doing no singles ('kid a') or releaseing 'pyramid song' as a single ('amnesiac')?
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Jedi Knights 'New School Science' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Tiny Reminders', and guess the year it came out
fucks sake...
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link
if you were an ignorant moron listening to shitty music all the time, yes
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link
i think they made this more likely! 'kid a' was a Big Event not just because of the media and public but because it was released without singles and with these weird eco-shows (iirc) instead of a regular tour. that looked far more arrogant, in its way, than doing a patchy double-LP.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link
doglatin on this thread is like some kind of armando ianucci bot spouting out ridiculous ill thought out opinons with no link to reality.
Electroclash was spawned and then Girls Aloud and stuff etc.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
maybe fandango you're right but i don't think Radiohead ever wanted to shoot themselves in the foot. In a way by releasing two albums they made their experiments easier to swallow for the Mondeo-generation whereas I think a double-album in the style of say The White Album full of dibs and dabs and experiments and a reprise of one of the main tracks appearing on each side would have kept their integrity without alienating their fanbase.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Less of this kind of thing please. Say what you mean, because that's even more ill thought out than anything I've contributed to this thread.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:00 (seventeen years ago) link
1) Tanked their whole career with the backlash (bloated, "too experimental" etcetera) if it didn't work.2) Made Thom the new John Lennon with Kid Amnesiac as their White Album if it did.
I don't blame them for letting some pressure off personally. But then I don't really like sprawliing double albums much either!
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:00 (seventeen years ago) link
you don't get big without wanting it; moreoever it takes hard work. oasis didn't put the effort into the states that radiohead did.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL
but really
WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Of course most of that was just a fond reference, and not the actively despicable nostalgia for "better times" when you had "real music" men were men and women were in the kitchen, NME-jackboot encouraged conservative shite you got with the arrival of the Britpop branding.
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Pretty much OTM. If they had released Kid A and Amnesiac together it would have had a smaller-scale version of the effect that The Fragile and Tusk had on NIN and Fleetwood Mac sales.
― LC (Damian), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link
idk if anyone GAF about another person trying to make this a double album BUT *i* dont GAF and did it anyway! never really liked the sequencing of this that much tbh, and still do wish it was a big fuck off double when they released it, but hey.
treefingers, idioteque, morning bell, everything in its right place, hunting bears, i might be wrong, pulk/pull revolving doors, dollars and cents, pyramid song, kid a, natiuonal anthem, packt like sardines, like spinning plates, optimistic, in limbo, how to dissapear completely, you and whose army, life in a glasshouse, motion pic soundtrack, untitled.
― candyman, Sunday, 7 March 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link
Having them be separate albums was the right choice. This way you get one great album and a not so good one instead of a double not so great album with some great songs in it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 March 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
he's really done it this time
― maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 8 March 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link
The great album is Amnesiac, right?
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 8 March 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link
(btw Moka, does your ilx email work?)
No "Knives Out" or "Morning Bell (Amnesiac)"? Both versions of the latter are essential to me.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 8 March 2021 04:01 (three years ago) link
I’m not sure? Did you send me an email recently?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 March 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link
Oh I just found one from you! I think it sends all the “robot” mails to spam... damn now I’m wondering if there’s other ilxors whose mails I never replied to :/
Let me write you!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 March 2021 06:12 (three years ago) link
I was trying to do a combination of both albums, where disc 1 is comprised of the “electronic” songs (turns out only 1/3 of each album counts as such) and disc 2 is the jazzy / rock thing and it sucks so hard this way. Without the contrast of one another it becomes two bad albums.
Eg:
DISC 1
Everything in its right placeKid APackt like SardinesPulk/pullIdiotequeTreefingersLike Spinning Plates
DISC 2
The National AnthemHow to disappear completelyPyramid SongOptimisticKnives OutYou and whose armyIn limboDollars and centsI might be wrongMorning BellLife in a glasshouseMotion Picture Soundtrack
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 March 2021 06:44 (three years ago) link
You’d think that for all that talk about Radiohead “going electronic” those would be the dominating sound.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 March 2021 06:49 (three years ago) link
Xpost knives out is just a wall of dreariness to me. And one version of morning bell is enough on a (fake) double album. These two tracks would be decent b sides.
― candyman, Monday, 8 March 2021 07:27 (three years ago) link