"the greatest four-record run in rock history"

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all I can say is that Andy is a good friend and that I'm minorly annoyed at him for stealing what I was gonna start my Heads-box piece with (though I'd have said first four albums, not just four). Though yeah, Velvets for sure cap 'em.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

No one's said the Who?

Sell Out / Tommy / Who's Next / Quadrophenia (with Live at Leeds in the midst)

JC-L (JC-L), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

"I'm speaking of spoilers like ... Cosmic Slop"

eh? Funkadelic's classic run goes: Funkadelic, Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, Maggot Brain, America Eats Its Young.

CCR run I referred to earlier is: Bayou Country, Green River, Willy and The Poorboys, and Cosmo's Factory.

(I find some of these nominations laughable - also, Stevie Wonder is not rock n roll, sorry).

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a shame that 13th Floor Elevators and Nick Drake only have a 3 album run. Also, Fairport Convention released a great quartet: what we did on our holidays, unhalfbricking, liege & lief, full house.

The first four Pouges albums are also brilliant

ps. I am not a nerd (cough)

AET, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe I'm a sucker for jangly folk-rock and its variations, but I'd make an argument for the first six Byrds albums (pick any possible four-album succession).

Binjominia (Brilhante), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

The Byrds:

Fifth dimension to Sweetheart

Turn, turn, turn is a little weak. But Mr. Tambourine Man is their best album (although Sweetheart comes close)

AET, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

oh ilm will we ever come to a consensus on this ; (

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Although Dylan is mentioned in the original post, not enough has been made of:

Bringing it All Back Home/Highway 61 Revisited/Blonde on Blonde/John Wesley Harding

...which really has to be the winner.

Chuck B, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Murmer > Reckoning > Fables Of The Reconstruction > Life's Rich Pageant > Document

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"oh ilm will we ever come to a consensus on this ; ("

Consensus? ILM?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Re: Husker Du...great great great band but Candy Apple Grey is HORRIBLE except for like 2 Grant songs and Warehouse...yeech. If you want to include EPs you can do Metal Circus through Flip Your Wig.

And hey Matthew, Series of Sneaks is Spoon's best album! Soft Effects gives it a run for its money though.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

>Magical Mystery Tour was an EP<

In what sense? Was it really shorter than 25 minutes? (Not arguing, just asking.)

>, Stevie Wonder is not rock n roll<

Why? (Odd, hearing this from somebody who nominated Funkadelic.) (Whoever nominated Prince above and says he's not rock confuses me, too.)(Like, because he's not white?? Is there another reason?)


Land Speed Record and Metal Circus > Candy Ass Grey and Warhouse

High Voltage, If You Want Blood, and Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (which one came last in Australia?) all > Back in Black

xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

CE OTM re:AC/DC (and HD)

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with an astonishingly high percentage of the lists on this page.

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Re:Byrds
5th dimension runs out of gas on the second side.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

However, if it's a great albeit slightly flawed four album run, the Byrds make it, as do Sleater-Kinney (Call The Doctor->All Hands)

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Not rock, but fuck it:

Orbital II/Snivilisation/In Sides/Middle of Nowhere

also (I'm probably the only one here who will rep for all four of these):

Lazer Guided Melodies/Pure Phase/Ladies and Gentlemen/Let It Come Down

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"Magical Mystery Tour was an EP"

"In what sense? Was it really shorter than 25 minutes? (Not arguing, just asking.)"

Originally only 6 songs (on 2 x 7"ers iirc) totalling less than 20 minutes. The other 5 tracks on the album version that's now about were originally the A- and B-sides of various other singles released around the same time.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Zack OTM re: Series of Sneaks. Spoon's got the 4.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

"Odd, hearing this from somebody who nominated Funkadelic."

d'oh! PWND! Well, kinda sorta... skin color doesn't have anything to do with it, its more that Funkadelic made pretty obvious use of rock tropes (LOUD GUITARS, psychedelic reverb effects, etc.) in a way that Stevie didn't.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

any votes for stevie wonder have to nudge back a record...

music of my mind > talking book > innervisions > fulfillingness' first finale

what do i have to do to convince wonder lovers that "songs in the key of life" suxxxx?!?! or is at least not as good as "music of my mind"?

and CCR is seconded.

grauzone, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

That's how MMT came out in America. When CDs came in, it became the global standard.

X-post

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I gotcher back MindinRewind, but my two favorite bands ever are Spacemen 3 and Funkadelic (Beach Boys close third)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Dubnobasswithmyheadman ---> A Hundred Days Off

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Milk and Scissors ---> Twilight

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Curtain Hits the Cast ---> Trust

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

>Originally only 6 songs (on 2 x 7"ers iirc) totalling less than 20 minutes. The other 5 tracks on the album version that's now about were originally the A- and B-sides of various other singles released around the same time.<

Well, that's not an EP (unless, like I said, all those odds and sods added up to less than 25 minutes). But I can see how it wouldn't count (like how Costello's *Taking Liberties,* say, wouldn't count.)

And lots of white bands on this thread don't have guitars as noisy as Funkadelic either, Shakey. I mean, I like CCR better than Stevie myself, but "Superstition" and "Living for the City" sure rock as hard as anything CCR (or the Beatles or Byrds etc) did to my ears.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Being There--->A Ghost Is Born

hehe

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

CCR-check!
JA-check!
Zep-check!
VU-check!
Pavement?-not a chance...done @ WZ,BtC just don't cut it.
SY-go w/ the Confusion-Daydream, then-check!
hell, i'd throw the Butthole Surfers in there- Brown Reason to Live>>>Hairway to Steven (tho, i guess there are EP's in there...)
Beck? go old to new...
White Stripes??? surely, you jest.

eedd, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

A question and a comment:

Why is that people are disqualifying Stevie Wonder when the impetus for this thread was the Talking Heads? Mentalists.

Stewart, Strictly Personal is awesome and far superior to Mirror Man. Hell, I like it better than Safe As Milk!

And anyway Prince wins everything. Mentalists.

J (Jay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

oh chuck, let's not go down this "what is rock" road... I'm sorry I brought it up (I mean, I wouldn't call the Incredible String Band rock either, but who cares)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

has their ever been a band called The Reinforcement?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

SO MUCH TO ARGUE WITH!
-I really like Strictly Personal, but I may be the only Beefhart fan in the world to LIKE the production on that one...
-The Who never put out an album without a clunker, let alone a four-album run.
-Bossa Nova and Trompe Le Monde, while good albums, can't seriously stand as part of a run of four, if the implicit criteria is consistent high quality.
-Amnesiac, as noted above, is a crap album. You have to personally abdicate any sense of taste to even argue that one into the same league as The Bends, OK Computer or Kid A. The only way it's a success is if Radiohead set out to make a boring, bland album full of whining.
-The Kinks' Something Else just can't stand up next to Village Green or Face To Face, and much as I love Lola, neither can it.

I'm sure there's an REM partisan waiting to make his bid. What about Kraftwerk? They kinda count as rock. Or Motorhead (who definitely do)?

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Something Else is awesome.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

All Day Music ---> The World Is A Ghetto ---> Deliver the Word ---> Why Can't We Be Friends?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

The only songs I listen to with any regularity off of Something Else are David Brooks and Waterloo Sunset. While those two may be two of the best songs that the Davies ever did, the rest of the album is just a little too poncy for my tastes (and, again, can't stand up next to albums on either side of it).

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

".... if the implicit criteria is consistent high quality."

I agree with pretty much everything you say (except wrt Radiohead - personally I think Amnesiac is the best album they've ever done!) however there's a big difference between consistent high quality and consistently high quality, which is what you seem to be demanding.

Bossa Nova and Trompe Le Monde may not be as good as Surfer Rosa and Doolittle; and Something Else and Lola may not be as good as Village Green or Face To Face; but they're still extremely good albums.

If consistently high quality is the criteria, then I'd have to start by taking issue with the suggestion that would then be inherent in the premise of the thread that More Songs About Buildings And Food is as good as '77, Fear Of Music Or Remain In Light - 'cos it just ain't!

"I'm sure there's an REM partisan waiting to make his bid. What about Kraftwerk? They kinda count as rock. Or Motorhead (who definitely do)?"

I already done dat.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

REM that is.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I have an affection for Something Else because it was my first real Kinks album. IT IS a classic, albeit not at "Village Green" level. Still, "Death of A Clown" "Two Sisters" "Harry Rag" "Lazy Old Sun"...

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Who said EPs don't count? I'll take a solid EP over a mediocre LP any day of the week.

I second Sabbath, Velvets, and...

Brian Eno: Here Come the Warm Jets, Taking Tiger Mountain, Another Green Day, Before and After Science (arguably Discreet Music is somewhere in the middle there screwing things up)

Misfits: Static Age, 12 Hits From Hell, Walk Among Us, Earth A.D.
(arguably one of the most underappreciated runs in punk rock history)

RZA (arguably the architect of these releases, which came out over the course of two years): Wu Tang's Enter the 36 Chambers, Method Man's Tical, ODB's Return To The 36 Chambers, Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx..., GZA's Liquid Swords (arguably, 5 records)

Wire: Pink Flag, Chairs Missing, 154 (arguably, only 3)

Minutemen: The Punch Line, What Makes A Man Start Fires, Howl and Buzz Under The Influence of Heat, Double Nickel on the Dimes (arguably)

Stooges: The Stooges, Fun House, Raw Power, Metallic KO (argh)

Yeah, this is fun...

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

...at putting rock fans to sleep. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, those are four bad covers.

werner t., Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Wow, those are four bad covers."

yeah, you should HEAR the albums...

*rimshot*

eedd, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

BobDylan - 4 of the early-ish ones ...

Has Dylan ever done 4 really great records in a row?

You could make a case for three, with "Subterranean Homesick Blues"-"Blonde On Blonde" and "Planet Waves"-"Desire", but four? Not really.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Zappa almost has a decent run with his early stuff. Freak Out! > Absolutely Free > We're Only In It For The Money is spoiled by Lumpy Gravy, and Uncle Meat is still a year after WOITFTM.

As far as the last ten years, may I submit:
Queens of the Stone Age > R > Songs for the Deaf > Lullabies to Paralyze

The most recent one is far from their best, but I think it's a very admirable run.

digestion (digestion), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Magical Mystery Tour is a compilation, which therefore makes it ineligible.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

al green: gets next to you > let's stay together > i'm still in love with you > call me

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel much better about the Heads' run after reading all the way through the thread than I did at first. If that's the standard, though, I think you have to consider REM, too. Nominating Pavement is time-bound nonsense. And why did it take so long to come up with Eno?

The other archetype is when you throw a sprawling, inconsistent double album in the mix eg

Fleetwood Mac > Rumors > Tusk > Mirage

If Tusk had been a single LP we'd be going for it like CCR (who had some filler in there, people).

mitya can't remember his frigging password, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link


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