"Pop Punk"

That said, I do like a lot of the most pop stuff, mainly because it is something sort of new: "Sk8er Boi" and the average Blink 182 single are pop-punk in a way that's interesting to me. And I don't at all mind hearing the more emo-ed bands you mention (well, Jimmy Eat World more than Dashboard Confessional) -- I'd rarely go out of my way for it, but it's usually a decent listen.

I think it's that music you don't like is more irritating when it's close to your preferred style - I have more hatred for the Nicklebacks and Creeds of this world than for any crap pop group, and I don't know why. Because the shite rock bands are dragging down 'my' music, maybe? Bands like Sum 41 and New Found Glory, who sound to me like Epitaph-style punk taken to its poppiest conclusion, don't offend my punk sensibilities because I don't really have any.

Is it just the narcissism of small differences?

http://www.thisispunkrock.btinternet.co.uk/fliers/1/descende.jpg

(i.e. he is really AN ALIEN!!)

(it's got the loveliest melodic bit on that chorus)

Whatever about Avril's passing abilities, she isn't pop-punk, is she? Sk8er Boi seems miles from Blink 182.

TOO LATE, INFIDEL!

All this tepid crap -- Alien Ant Farm, Sum 41, Blink 182, Good fuckin' Charlotte, Avril Lavigne, Less Than Jake, Simple Plan, New Found Glory, etc.... are all as abjectly meaningless as the Trains, Matchbox 20s, Seven Mary Threes, Marcy Playgounds, Verve Pipes and Vertical Horizons. Likewise the Stainds, Disturbeds, Colds, Ademas, Salivas, P.O.D.s and Linkin Parks....

.....IT'S ALL CRAP!

All this tepid crap -- Alien Ant Farm, Sum 41, Blink 182, Good fuckin'
Charlotte, Avril Lavigne, Less Than Jake, Simple Plan, New Found Glory,
etc.... are all as abjectly meaningless as the Trains, Matchbox 20s, Seven
Mary Threes, Marcy Playgounds, Verve Pipes and Vertical Horizons. Likewise
the Stainds, Disturbeds, Colds, Ademas, Salivas, P.O.D.s and Linkin
Parks....

.....IT'S ALL CRAP!

WHAT ABOUT VINES, HIVES, ETC

i am really digging the emo-pop (as opposed to punk-pop) lately. there is basically a whole new crop of bands that realized that the foo fighters' "everlong" was 1 million X more important than "smells like teen spirit".

and the goo-goo dolls mid-era stuff like "so far away".

I think my main problem with this stuff is in the production: There's not much of a historical reference point for the "sound" of the Backstreet Boys, so we just accept that "this type of music is, by nature, brutally overproduced and shiny"; whereas, with something attempting a "punk" sound, something with that much gloss is going to sound silly next to the tough and raw historical precedent set by bands like the Dead Boys, Ramones, et. al.

i think the only reason i like the weakerthans is because it reminds me of propagandhi's softer moments.

?!?!?!?!?!!!???????

Revis sounds like Creed listened to Hum.

KJ = old band

too much sugar rots your teeth, balance is the key.

http://www.dragcity.com/catalog/records/dc30.jpg

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc500/c503/c503697u32b.jpg

Also, Travis Barker will end up being the most-aped drummer of our era.

I'd like to hear a DJ Sammy treatment of "Hope". Maybe Avril can sing it.

I like a lot of pop-punk, older stuff. I don't find the new stuff offensive in the least, but why would I buy any of it when I still have a binder full of Descendents, Mess/Darlington, Green Day and so on? I still pull out some of those albums, but less than I used to. Rancid's [i]Life Won't Wait[/i] holds up pretty well, I like the One Man Army CD I picked up the last time I went to a Warped Tour show, of course the Descendents and the Buzzcocks.

I notice Good Charlotte gets a little more love each time they release another single. That rocks.

Descendents are ok (my fave is probably "Jean Is Dead"), but yeah, anybody who likes them but hates ALL the pop-punk out there now is probably doing it based on some ass-backwards principle.

I haven't heard all the pop-punk out there now and to be frank based on what I HAVE heard, I'm not in the mood to hear more.

I think the more people wrongly simplify my stance the more I'll be amused. ;-)

what if you're like me, and you have a token pop-punk band that you like? wouldn't that be seen as dodgy here? (not that i give a fuck, but like ned, most of it just plain annoys me) for the record, my token pop-punk band is blink 182, they can craft some pretty good melodies out of about 3 notes, plus they're fun and danceable.

I think the Hard-Ons are pop punk and everyone else can gtfo

^^dont remember posting that.

recently remembered 'pop and disorderly' by Limp which came out in 97. I just downloaded it, It's pretty good!

This Sdekicks album is p enjoyable

it's all right. last few songs are very good

amazing thread

(mostly the sidekicks record just made me really want to listen to the cymbals eat guitars album from last year, not that they necessarily sound alike, though maybe there's a case to be made for the former being pop-punk/indie and the latter being indie/emo)

Wondering how any serious journalist or pundit tricked into promoting the Iraq War lives with the knowledge they were less skeptical of an international conflict than the tracklist for Rock Against Bush pic.twitter.com/fWtxKtZVps

— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) March 20, 2023

You wrote for The New York Times and were further behind the curve than Sum 41

— Gillian Branstetter (@GBBranstetter) March 20, 2023