wait deej are year end lists supposed to be lists of everything a person has heard? fuck I have been doin it wrong for years
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
that #1 song is exactly why i dont get dubstep.
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
im just pointing out his year end list doesnt exactly suggest hes particularly immersed in rap music that the rest of the country is listening to
well, or it suggests, as he is saying outright, that he's not that taken with what he's hearing
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean this is exactly what I'm talking about - "he doesn't like what I like! he must not have heard what I've heard!" lol wut, if I don't see something on somebody's list I don't assume they're ignorant to its glories
has anyone here listened to that dude from gary indiana? is he any good?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
hes good & constructs good albums but as a rapper hes a pretty plain trad-gangster rap dude being pushed by a guy w a day job @ stones throw who apparently knows how to market to the white boy crit market
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
this is just a really shortsighted article - the jay-z album isnt a barometer or indicator of anything beyond an aging artist attempting to tighten his grip on the ability to feel in touch - the freddie gibbs tangent is really disconnected & gibbs in general is good but is not anything special in terms of trend. the type of thing that gibbs is doing with mixtape-as-album has been going on for two or three years now. the piece just makes it look like SFJ is skimming what all rap fans & sorta rap fans are talking about - jay & rae - and what the 'right' tastemaking blogs are talking up - gibbs, who is a good rapper in a looooooooooong line of unsigned rappers putting out fully formed albums for free .
― brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, if your perfect consumer is the white boy crit market you are gonna go hungry. they never pay for anything. he should market the album to critical 12 year old white boys. they got money.
x-post
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yes and yes he is very very good IMO
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
as soon as i noticed that this thread had been updated, i knew exactly why
― YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
because sasha frere-jones recently wrote an article?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
http://stuhasic.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/psychic.jpg
― banned, on the run (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
rip sfj
― velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
rock crit died today. along with rap.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
people still listen to prefuse 73 rekkerds?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
rip people
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
rip black people and their music
― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
rip...everyone (tiny tim voice)
― access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
women writing poetry itt
― m.coleman (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.kidsuki.com/Images/scooby-doo.jpeg
rip rop?
― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i looked up joker from that list. joker is a dubstep artist.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
because sfj wrote a "hip hop is 'dead'" article, folks.
― YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know if i really feel like looking up the arch cupcake though. i will just assume that they are a dubstep artist as well.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.myspace.com/thearchcupcake
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
spoofed link to lemonparty, do not click
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
would read a well written article on canonical shock images
― nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
rap = dead, dubstep = best music out
got it
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
not that big on the song, but i'm digging the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGAP15CT3X4
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
were rock stans this belligerent when the genre was 25 years old and people didn't think it was still some radical new force for shakin up the charts and started lookin around for other shit to get excited about?
wait lol don't answer that
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
well basically that's why we ended up with punk rock; if hip-hop's version is snap/jerk, I can only wait with bated breath for the awesome post-jerk hip-hop that should be rolling out this decade
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost disco-burning stadium rallies etc etc.
― Comfort Me With Apples (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
they were enraged! they killed disco cuz they were so mad.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha, yeah, what he said.
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:02 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
who's being belligerent? is dubstep a radical new force?
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
So I was really enjoying Arch Cupcake's "Box of Bees" (wow that sounds dirty) until it got to the bit with the pitchshifted chanting of his name which reaffirmed that, no matter what the music actually sounds like, seriously fuck anyone who thinks calling themselves "The Arch Cupcake" is a good idea.
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i am excited about new rap. a bunch of us have been transcribing, in detail, one popular rapper's verses in another thread every time a successive tape comes out. & hes the one huge artist this article really seems to overlook
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"who's being belligerent?"
Yeah I wouldn't characterize deej as belligerent. Ridiculously whiny hits the mark, I think.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
my cousin Arch Cupcake Darn13113 is going to beat your ass btw Dan
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
wait so john d. isn't darn1elle? but he is also a singer/songwriter. i'm confused.
― amateurist, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
are "state of the genre" essays that make big pronouncements EVER satisfying? i have yet to read one that doesn't sound foolish.
― amateurist, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
john d's real name is Cupcake Jones
― pariah carey (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
john D is actually John Dean
― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
is he related to persecution smith?
― amateurist, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost
QUE, GOOGLEPROOF
― the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
shit my bad SLutc@ke J0nes
― pariah carey (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean Cupc@ake J0nes
i don't think it's that whiny to think that sfj piece seems to pick three pretty odd albums to hang it's "state of hip hop" thesis on...i mean i'm no gucci stan but it seems like as much noise as he's made in the last two years he should be mentioned.
― hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
no but "lol rap is important fuckin dubstep what are you nerds on about" is kinda the '09 version of "punk rock, pshaw, that's not even music"
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link