Sasha Frere-Jones: Really?????

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also ew he likes DOA

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Reptilian overlords keepin' Theodore Dreiser down

LOL I'm actually reading Dreiser now, reptiles can't stop me

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

why is that picture a the yale law admissions blog

Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

but as call all destroyer said above the albums mentioned in the article are probably the only ones he's listened to all year.

just a q btw, do you guys seriously believe this or is it a job requirement to say stuff like it

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

why is that picture a the yale law admissions blog

who do u think is running this country????

h3len k. (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

john it's just the way the article reads

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

otm

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah no I get that but it's one thing to say "weird to me how a guy who clearly hears a lot of [genre] can come away w/those opinions" and another to actually get extend that to fantasy-land conceptions of who's more/less informed

(sorry, the whole "I disagree with someone, therefore he's clearly not in possession of the same information as me" style is a big irritant for me) (LOL along w/lots of other stuff today it seems)

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

dude i probably listen to <10 new hip-hop albums a year but i would never write something that was pre-framed w/"ever year has ONE BIG RAP ALBUM" which is what he basically does.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i think weve probably talked in the past about how when sf-j writes for the new yorker there's a sense that he dumbs things down a bit but to say that the blueprint 3 can be subbed in for "the state of hip-hop" in 2009 is pretty wack--if anything he should be telling that readership that just like every genre there's a bunch of interesting shit happening year in and year out.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

my bad I'm just really contrary today sorry

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

naw man it's cool :)

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

SONGS
1. Shuttle “Tunnel (High Rankin Remix)” (Ninja Tune)
2. The Streets “Blinded By The Lights (Nero remix)”
3. Pet Shop Boys “Love Etc.” (EMI)
4. 16 Bit “Chainsaw Calligraphy” (Boka)
5. Miike Snow “Animal” (Fake Blood remix) (RCRD LBL)
6. Jesse McCartney “How Do You Sleep?” f/Ludacris (Hollywood)
7. Maxwell “Pretty Wings” (Sony)
8. Major Lazer “Keep It Going Louder” (Downtown)
9. The Streets “See If They Salute”
10. Miranda Lambert “Dead Flowers” (Sony)
11. FaltyDL “Party/Alpafun” (Ramp)
12. Jason Aldean “This I Gotta See” (Broken Bow Records)
13. Kate Voegele “Inside Out” (Interscope)
14. Tonéx “Fiyah” (Battery/Verity/Zomba)
15. Holly Williams “Mama”
16. The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart “Come Saturday” (Slumberland)
17. Metric “Help, I’m Alive” (Metric Music International)
18. Kelly Clarkson “I Do Not Hook Up” (Sony/BMG)

ALBUMS
1. Mastodon “Crack The Skye” (Reprise)
2. Sonic Youth “The Eternal” (Matador)
3. Dirty Projectors “Bitte Orca” (Domino)
4. Sunn O))) “Monoliths & Dimensions” (Southern Lord)
5. Neko Case “Middle Cyclone” (Anti-)
6. Sleigh Bells
7. Grizzly Bear “Veckatimest” (Warp)
8. St. Vincent “Actor” (4AD)
9. Raekwon “Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Pt. 2” (Ice H20)
10. Prefuse 73 “Everything She Touched Turned Ampexian” (Warp)
11. Fever Ray (Rabid/Mute)
12. Micachu & The Shapes “Jewellery” (Rough Trade)
13. Harmonia & Eno ’76 “Tracks & Traces” (Grönland)
14. Yeah Yeah Yeahs “It’s Blitz!” (Interscope)
15. DJ Sega “Live at The Bowery Ballroom”
16. Freddie Gibbs “midwestgangstaboxframecadillacmuzik”
17. The-Dream “Love vs. Money” (Def Jam)
18. Lady Gaga “The Fame” (Interscope)
19. Lily Allen “It’s Not Me, It’s You” (EMI/Capitol)
20. Joker “Purple Wow Sound”
21. Vowels “The Pattern Prism” (LOAF)
22. Kleerup (Astralwerks)
23. Miracle Condition (Tizona)
24. Del Marquis “Runaround” (Embryoroom)
25. Here We Go Magic (Western Vinyl)
26. Kate Miller-Heidke “Curioser” (Sony BMG Australia)
27. The Arch Cupcake “Box of Bees” (Patriarch)
28. Brad Paisley “American Saturday Night” (Arista)
29. Mokira “Persona” (Type)
30. Erin McCarley “Love, Save The Empty” (Universal Republic)
31. Vladislav Delay “Tummaa” (Leaf)
32. Udachi & Jubilee “Paypur” EP (Nightshifters)
33. Mika “The Boy Who Knew Too Much” (Casablanca)
34. Esser “Braveface” (Chocolate Industries)
35. Modeselektor “Body Language Vol. 08” (Get Physical Music)

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

my bad I'm just really contrary today sorry

no you aren't

the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Now what's this.

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

(xpost to deej)

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i just think it's dumb how this whole trend is based off a couple songs and of all the things the new jay z album. he's calling 2009 the end of hip hop over something it seems he's been noticing a bit in the past few months. if he's heard a lot of other hip hop this year, and i don't doubt he has, it's not like he's figuring any of that into the argument.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

wait deej are year end lists supposed to be lists of everything a person has heard? fuck I have been doin it wrong for years

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

that #1 song is exactly why i dont get dubstep.

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

im just pointing out his year end list doesnt exactly suggest hes particularly immersed in rap music that the rest of the country is listening to

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

well, or it suggests, as he is saying outright, that he's not that taken with what he's hearing

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean this is exactly what I'm talking about - "he doesn't like what I like! he must not have heard what I've heard!" lol wut, if I don't see something on somebody's list I don't assume they're ignorant to its glories

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

has anyone here listened to that dude from gary indiana? is he any good?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

hes good & constructs good albums but as a rapper hes a pretty plain trad-gangster rap dude being pushed by a guy w a day job @ stones throw who apparently knows how to market to the white boy crit market

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

this is just a really shortsighted article - the jay-z album isnt a barometer or indicator of anything beyond an aging artist attempting to tighten his grip on the ability to feel in touch - the freddie gibbs tangent is really disconnected & gibbs in general is good but is not anything special in terms of trend. the type of thing that gibbs is doing with mixtape-as-album has been going on for two or three years now. the piece just makes it look like SFJ is skimming what all rap fans & sorta rap fans are talking about - jay & rae - and what the 'right' tastemaking blogs are talking up - gibbs, who is a good rapper in a looooooooooong line of unsigned rappers putting out fully formed albums for free .

brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, if your perfect consumer is the white boy crit market you are gonna go hungry. they never pay for anything. he should market the album to critical 12 year old white boys. they got money.

x-post

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

has anyone here listened to that dude from gary indiana? is he any good?

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes and yes he is very very good IMO

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

as soon as i noticed that this thread had been updated, i knew exactly why

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

because sasha frere-jones recently wrote an article?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

http://stuhasic.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/psychic.jpg

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

as soon as i noticed that this thread had been updated, i knew exactly why

rip sfj

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

rock crit died today. along with rap.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

people still listen to prefuse 73 rekkerds?

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

rip people

the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

rip black people and their music

access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

rip...everyone (tiny tim voice)

access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

women writing poetry itt

m.coleman (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.kidsuki.com/Images/scooby-doo.jpeg

rip rop?

nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i looked up joker from that list. joker is a dubstep artist.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

because sfj wrote a "hip hop is 'dead'" article, folks.

YOUR MOMS SPOT HERON WITH NO HANDS I'M SMACKIN HER (Beatrix Kiddo), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know if i really feel like looking up the arch cupcake though. i will just assume that they are a dubstep artist as well.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/thearchcupcake

the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

spoofed link to lemonparty, do not click

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

would read a well written article on canonical shock images

nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

rap = dead, dubstep = best music out

got it

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

not that big on the song, but i'm digging the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGAP15CT3X4

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

rap = dead, dubstep = best music out

got it

were rock stans this belligerent when the genre was 25 years old and people didn't think it was still some radical new force for shakin up the charts and started lookin around for other shit to get excited about?

wait lol don't answer that

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link


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