I don't think you can really blame Nirvana for releasing these tracks. "You can't sell that music, we already bought a shoddier version off those guys who bootlegged you". That doesn't make sense. I love bootlegs but come on, these guys aren't exactly Robin Hood, y'know?
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
(e.g. Beatles Anthology)
And the Sex Pistols where the tracks had actually been released on 'semi-legal' albums...
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 November 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Still, record companies and artists should hold an advantage--while the recordings may have leaked over the years, we're still at a point where a beautiful booklet/liners can make a difference to a buyer. Personal photos and effects create value that give the labels a competitive advantage over the bootleggers; again, I don't see this as a lasting advantage, but it's current enough that it should be properly leveraged.
― don weiner, Friday, 19 November 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was about to say -- Kiss the Stone isn't around any more, are they?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 November 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Nostalgia for the Old Cineramadome (Ben Boyer), Friday, 19 November 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 19 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
i know it's out there
― wetetr, Friday, 19 November 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Around the third or fourth time the set was being announced as delayed, around summer 2002, was when I decided to make my own boxed set by downloading as much of the Outcesticide tracks, Peel Sessions, Rio Sessions, etc, as I could find and putting them onto 3 CD's. I find it downright lame that Krist Novoselic claimed he had access to such fantastic music when it was all just the same stuff the fans have heard already. So come November 23rd, I'll be spending my money on the 8 songs I've never heard, at least 4 of which I'm sure sound are in shit quality, and the DVD.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link
For fuck's sake!
― asdf troll, Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, what pisses ME off is that this thing apparently doesn't include the finished version of "You Know You're Right" (instead, just a demo). I mean, how fucking annoying is THAT? I still refuse to buy that stupid greatest hits cd.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link
I own one of course.
― Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link
Incidentally, has anyone else noticed bootlegs are all color copies or epson print-outs these days? I miss the glorious days of high quality $20 bootlegs just before Napster came out.
― asdf troll, Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― mullato, Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I might buy that Greatest Hits thing instead.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
got the box for Xmas.
so so good.
Kurt was amazing. He really was. What a fun guy. I just love the Bleach-era stuff -- he had such great control over his voice.
Best white-boy screamer since Lennon. I suppose i should append that statement with a "...maaaaaan". But whatever. It's so fuckin' true.
I love that first disc on the box. 'White lace & strange', 'anerexorcist', etc. ... that IS the Nirvana I fell in love with.
that's the Nirvana that ruled my world when I saw them in 1990 with Tad at the Blind Pig in Ann Arbor.
Heavy fuckin' metal.
god bless kurt. rock and roll
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 3 January 2005 09:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― snappers whipper, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― snappers whipper, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't realize that Anthony Kiedis and Andy Kaufman were the other two guys in Nirvana.
― The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I only wish that that was really Tom Waits.
― Pleasant Plains ///, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
"You called me a vagina? How dare you!"
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Working through it..
Played about a third of the DVD yesterday.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― it's ALL too loud, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link
does any other of do re mi even exist?
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
I'm only aware of the bedroom demo. It was probably written too soon before their feb 94 shows for any other demos let alone a full band version.
― sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 12 September 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
I'd quite like a disc of songs not on any of the four studio albums, not particularly interested in alternate takes or demos or what have you. Does such a thing exist?
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 September 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Not really, all of the b-side and non-album tracks are piled in with the alternate takes and demos on the With the Lights Out box, they've never really had a single disc non-album comp. Some of the Outcesticide bootlegs might get you closer, but a lot of those are live tracks, not necessarily b-side stuff.
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 September 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
BEANS BEANS BEANS, JACKIE ATE SOME BEANS
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 12 September 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
NAKED NAKED NAKED, HE WAS SITTING CROSS-LEGGED
― how's life, Thursday, 12 September 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
I'd quite like a disc of songs not on any of the four studio albums, not particularly interested in alternate takes or demos or what have you. Does such a thing exist?― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:59 AM (54 minutes ago)
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:59 AM (54 minutes ago)
Haha, I think you've answered your own question here! Incesticide is precisely what you're referring to and is not a studio album.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 12 September 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I knew that, kind of wishing for Incesticide II really! There seems to be enough material knocking around.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 September 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
Oh sorry, I thought you didn't know that because you said four studio albums (they only had three: Bleach / Nevermind / In Utero).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
is there actually much material left that isn't on those four albums?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Blandest is pretty great. Why wasn't that on Incesticide?
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
it also has maybe the single best Nirvana lyric (and it's the chorus!): "I need you around to remind me what not to become"
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli)
My fault for not having having stringent definitions; in my head Incesticide is a studio album because it's a collection of songs that were recorded in a studio.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.),
Glancing through the tracklist of the box I can see a decent album's worth of extra studio recordings (not necessarily Cobain compositions, mind).
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Corpse Cobain more profitable than ever.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
What, are there new unreleased recordings or something?
― a mad urea nub (how's life), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Just tired of this new doc and sites posting clips of home videos and the whole necromarketing going on.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
Adam Bruneau wrote this on thread Used to love it, had to 'kill' it... on board I Love Music on Jul 18, 2001Years after having dismissed grunge I happened upon a very cheap copy of Nirvana's "Nevermind" in a used CD shop and it's far from as spectacular as I used to think it was. In fact, I could barely finish side 2.
― a mad urea nub (how's life), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
If that's real then in the 14 years that have passed I think it rules again like I did when I was in middle school when it came out. I even did a cover last year of "On a Plain":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60zZg3JbOMA
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
Oh, ok cool. I just wasn't sure if this was your shtick all along or what. To be fair, Nevermind probably didn't sound that good in 2001.
― how's life, Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link