Oh! The Fall John Peel Sessions box set! OH! you guys.

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Though jealous, I must maintain a serene calm. Soon.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, here's what's next:

Due May 2005 (?) from Voiceprint, a series of 5 Live From The Vaults archive live recordings - Oldham 1978, Retford 1979, Los Angeles 1979, Glasgow 1981 & Hof [Germany] 1981. Hof is a double CD, the others are all single disc.

Due late May 2005 from Ozit Records, Live At Deeply Vale - live from the People's Free Festival 28 July 1978.

Due 13 June 2005 (put back from 16 May to avoid clash with Peel box set): Sanctuary reissues of Room To Live and Perverted By Language. Bonus tracks are to be announced; Perverted By Language will be a double CD.

Future releases from Sanctuary - In A Hole, then the reissues series will start on the Permanent albums The Infotainment Scan and Middle Class Revolt. All due second half of 2005. Also for late 2005 is pencilled in Bootleg Box Set, Volume 2, containing all the Voiceprint Live 2 finger salute CDs.

The Deeply Vale info is as far as the website knows:

The Fall Live at Deeply Vale (July 28, 1978) CD will be released on Ozit records at the end of May (May 30?). Yes, Ozit realizes that the front cover shows the 1979 Deeply Vale lineup; the photos they have from '78 aren't good enough for the front, although there will be one or two in the booklet.

Stay tuned for a special offer on this CD. It'll be available for "slightly" less than the normal price through a link from the Fall News, and the CD booklet will be signed by author Mick Middles.

I believe the track listing is Repetition / Psycho Mafia / Rebellious Jukebox / Frightened / Steppin' Out / Like to Blow / Mess of My / Mother-Sister / Industrial Estate / It's the New Thing / Futures and Pasts / Music Scene

I'm a touch surprised at the In a Hole reissue, in that the two disc rerelease on Voiceprint a couple of years back was near-perfect -- mastered from vinyl but actually done right, great liner notes, slew of wonderful bonus tracks etc. But such is the weird world of Fall reissues, but I figure I'll skip that one unless there's a noticeable sound difference.

Also nice to see that the Sanctuary series will in fact continue, skipping over the Beggars and Fontana years admittedly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

"Puttin' me awayyy, but I'll be back back back back back back backkk.."

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link

skipping over the Beggars and Fontana years admittedly

hmph!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 25 April 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Perverted By Language a double CD?! **Gulp**

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Where is it cheapest, this box set (apart from works cupboards)?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 April 2005 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link

£24 seems to be the price in general.

There's a promo set on e-bay, currently £15 or thereabouts.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link

That's not bad, is it?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

It's very good indeed.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link

£25 in Fopp is perfectly reasonable, i thought.

this is totally, totally great! and the sun is shining! what a day!

steviespitfire, Monday, 25 April 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

£22.99

http://www2.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=281;1;-1;-1&sku=376690

Anyone know if this price applies to bricks and mortar HMVs?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

PS no sunshine here, just muggy heat.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 April 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

What? Only six new live albums on the schedule?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

It is £24.99 in 'proper' HMV.

I suppose I could take something back to make it cheaper.

If I wanted to.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

£25 is still a bargain. it is SO GOOD to have this thing. it makes one's life complete.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

. until you see a Stereolab box set with DVD...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the problem, two at once.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

(£19 + £9 shipping..)


Goddamn. I've been listening to this all morning, trying to think of something to write about it.. all I can come up with is .. GodDAMN!

diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

What can I say, but..

"HIT EM ON THE HEAD!!! WITH A 2 BY FOUR!!!"

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Those Sanctuary reissues depress the living hell out of me.

Only because I've spent a few hundred dollars on their pre-BB catalog over the past decade.

Anyhow, I hope to find a way to procure this BBC box soon!

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I got it this afternoon and I'm listening to cd 6 (session 21-24) at the moment.
A Peel quote for this box is appropriate: I've run out of superlatives for this band.

Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"el el el el el ay ay ay ay ay..!

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i am justifying the cost of this purchase in two ways:

a) when i told london energy my real meter reading (rather than the one they made up for me) my last bill went down from 46 to 23 pounds.
b) it frees up about 5 pounds worth of space on all those tapes i've made over the years.

there, easy. oh, wait, payday today...

pity this is almost exactly 6 months to late...

koogs (koogs), Friday, 29 April 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

it is a staggeringly great collection of tracks. even when it sounds like the band is in several stages of falling apart (session 22?) it's still completely mesmerising.

finding it so so hard to fault - i think the only things that leave me cold are the extended 10min or so versions of tracks like hip priest and words of expectation - but that's just personal preference and i bet it's just because i have had so much of it to take in, and i'll eventually come round.

every household should have one.

mark h, Friday, 29 April 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Right. I had to pause the listening of this as Amber found the Rezillos CD in my glove compartment and insisted.

So, Saturday we spent driving down to the lookout with Amber (7) and Alice (5) singing "NO! (because I'm not old enough)" with gusto, and having to wait until "Top of the Pops" had finished when we got there...

But anyway, I digress.

Has there been any decent reviews of this set in the 'press'? Yeah, NME gave it a "this is excellent" type brief writeup, but hey that's not nearly enough. I presume the Mojos/Uncuts' reviews are forthcoming, but come on....

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Important for American fans etc!

I had ordered my copy through The Ideal Copy but just got a note saying this...

We are experiencing a bit of trouble getting this product. It turns
out that it was manufactured and released in the UK last week - but
that Sanctuary didn't manufacture nearly enough to cover the demand.
To make matters worse - they are having trouble manufacturing more
and don't expect to have them available again until May 23rd - I've
included a copy of the email our supplier received from Sanctuary
below. On top of this - Sanctuary has now scheduled a US release of
this title - it's expected to come out on June 7th.

So basically, do what I'm doing (and what TIC is kindly giving me the option to do), hold off or cancel the import orders and wait a bit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"Sanctuary didn't manufacture enough" pfff... Who was in charge there?

The last box set to make the chart (I think) was the Jam one, which made top ten. Not that That is important really, but this would have sold as much if they'd shipped it as such...

Anyway, I'm back on the box.. "hhot... Aftershave boppp"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i want this so bad.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:49 (nineteen years ago) link

What's buggin' me:

Groovin with Mr. Bloe..

Mark: Chewbacca
El: Chewca

.. Makes me think of Pirini Sclarosa every time.

diedre mousedropping (Dave225), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently, it was number 88 in a midweek album chart, but the 5,000 pressing sold out, so who knows.

Meanwhile, "Whizz Bang!! Butterflies for brainzzz"

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Mrs. Dr. C bought the box for me on Saturday!!! Cor!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link

That's love, that is.

OK, hold your thoughts, I've hit a dud track!

Yup.

"The City never sleeps at night". OK, granted it has no Mark E on it, and is given to the band and the girl backing vocalist steps up, but its a bad karaoke version of a (presumably) good track.

But, I have just heared "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" which sounds exactly like you think. And is fant.

So, Yep, I'm still on this. Just as well I'm not reviewing this for a magazine/newspaper. Mind you did anyone else that reviewed it listen to it all? That's a tall order.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

That's it! I'm buying the damn thing. That means no more groceries this week, though..

Rice + Beans + water = FAll Peel Sessions Box Set!

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

They had two copies in Maidenhead MVC, in case anyone's *really* desperate. £29.99 though. Perhaps it is the second batch.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 9 May 2005 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I got given this for my birthday on Saturday, and have made it through the first two disks so far. Standouts: "Who Makes the Nazis?", "Lie Dream of a Casino Soul", but maybe that's because they're classic tracks. Anyway, as has been said, months of return value on this little baby!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Got through the first three discs in the gf's car driving down to Dorset and back over the weekend.

Now transferred to my car but discs 4-6 are going to have to wait until I've finished the (really rather lovely so far) new Eels album.

Particularly looking forward to the last track on disc 5....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, just got past that one.

Um, it's alright. It won't change yer allegiance. Bit of a knock off, but yeah.

Actually, for all the slagging "Jungle Rock" gets in the book and from MES previously, I like it a fair bit.

I heared a snatch of "I can hear the grass grow" on the BBC4 docu, so I'm very looking forward to that.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link

So...I ALMOST feel guilty expressing the joy that was receiving this thing in the mail this morning, having learned from Ned how my compatriots back home are having to wait.... But OH MY GOD. The fidelity, the whallop and whump of the 3rd session, it's not even — oh shit. Be right back, gotta change my pants ——

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"We Are.. Sparta! F!C!"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link

£22.49 with student discount in Newcastle HMV.

And it's bloody great. Sanctuary have done a great job with the packaging; nice sturdy master-box, unlike say, what they did with the Lonnie Donegan 1955-67 set.

Have only listened to the first disc thus far, but it's striking, and I finally get to hear "No Xmas for John Quays", "New Puritans" and "Lie Dream of a Casino Soul", which do not disappoint!

I'm hoping, but non too confidently, that they include a passage of Peel speaking right at the end of CD6, after the last session; what a great, poignant touch that would be...

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard The Fall. Have been reading a lot abt them, though. Wsa considering buying Hex Enduction Hour or their newest one, sound unheard. Should I get this instead?

Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

all three ideas are sound.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

agreed. don't look back..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

um. ok!

Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link

If you're unfamiliar, start w/50,000 Fll Fans Can't Be Wrong, for reals. 2CDs, brilliantly sequenced, great start to finish.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Whatever you do, stick to the studio recordings, at least to start. There are a million live album cash-ins.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm always nervous about buying comps for artists who have really idiosyncratic albums - it feels like i'm not hearing the songs in the proper context (and I end up paying double to get the album in the end, anyway). That said, there's a whole lot of appeal to a career-spanning Introduction To (hence my interest in this Peel box), esp if it's being recommended by the Matos...

i'll do that, tim. thanks!

Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Sean, what Tim said. Also — Hex may be the best record, but I wouldn't recommend it as an introduction. It's also the most cryptic/impenetrable. I would start with either this insane box (which unlike the recent comp. will never be obsoleted by subsequent purchases) or with any of the gateway drugs: Grotesque, Slates, This Nation's Saving Grace, even the last one. Hex will pay off in greater spades once you've been steeped in (immunized by?) one of these...

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Thursday, 12 May 2005 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Sean--50,000 Fall Fans is budget-priced and a near-perfect introduction (i.e. I've given it to a couple of friends who'd never heard the Fall and they were capital-C Converted).

Hex is the consensus as the best (my favorite is Slates), but they are indeed rough sailing for neophytes. A few of the live records are quite good; most are not.

50,000 and the Peel box have 18 songs in common, but they're all different versions, sometimes very different.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 12 May 2005 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link


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