for the record, I truly enjoy Alicia Keys (though I prefer her first cd.)
― uh (eetface), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
― uh (eetface), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link
The direction I was taking was mocking sarcasm at you for completely misrepresenting me, hoping you would pick up on the fact that you had actually gotten my stance completely wrong.
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link
Christina, on the other hand, I have respect for as a singer, but I just overall dislike her music.
I want to be Alicia Key's loveslave, though.
― uh (eetface), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
I inferred from that that you actually thought those two virtues meant a damn thing by themselves.
― uh (eetface), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 3 May 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
― uh (eetface), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
On paper, he has everything: looks, voice, dancing, etc. But something about him somehow manages to make all of these qualities dull and uncharismatic. Even with him talking up his new womanizer image, there's never any sense of danger, excitement, or sexuality to his songs.
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link
― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 13 May 2004 02:47 (twenty years ago) link
― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 13 May 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link
pop pop!
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leelee (Leelee), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sammy, Sunday, 28 November 2004 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4821554ed68081/
i actually kinda like this. wish it wasn't as t-pain-y, but whatever. i'm sure this will be the "can't tell me nothing"/"dumb it down" type "internet first single". luda kills it i think.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Dud. He has an average voice at best, but that's not a biggie considering some R&B legends weren't legendary singers.
His material, though, has always lacked. "You Make Me Wanna" was decent, as well as "My Way", but nothing all that great--in comparison to some of the other dreck r&b on the radio at the time, it was like Lenny Williams, but it's still painfully average.
A lot of his other tunes were quite boring, and "Yea" is absolute crap.
So....he's not like, the worst of all time, but...next.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link
ok RONG. usher's 5 best singles stack up w/ anyone's 5 best singles since he's been around.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
You have a point there, except for the fact that his best five singles are still middle of the road in terms of quality :)
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Besides, I don't rank music in comparative terms. Even if all 3,445,433 other artists in the world were inferior to Usher, I wouldn't have to be obligated to consider his music quality if I felt it didn't stand up on its own terms.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, November 12, 2007 5:26 PM (Monday, November 12, 2007 5:26 PM) Bookmark Link
Ban.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Agree to disagree? :)
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
usher's 5 best singles stack up w/ anyone's 5 best singles since he's been around.
Uh, no. Justin Timberlake's best ten singles >>>>> Usher's best five
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link
eww...I'dtake Usher over Powder any day of the week.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link
so this album proves Radiohead still rules.
-- Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, November 12, 2007 9:48 AM (Monday, November 12, 2007 9:48 AM) Bookmark Link
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link
"U Got It Bad" & "Caught Up" = perfect songs. Anyone who can deny the power of a song with the adlib "her body was so tight, I'm lookin' for her in the daytime with a flashlight" or that "I'm your my man and you're my girl, I'm gonna tell it to the whole wide world/ Baby say/ I'm your girl and you're my man, promise to love you the best I can" breakdown is not to be trusted.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link
burn, yeah, u got it bad, u remind me, my way, you make me wanna are just as great as like i love you, cry me a river, rock your body, senorita, my love and lovestoned
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link
tape store, i think i fall somwhere in your universe re: timberlake, i.e. i think he is one of the preeminent hitmakers of his time, but idk futuresex is just a B for me, and i don't think the singles off that album come anywhere near the (nearly untoppable) like i love you/cry me a river/rock your body trio.
for me— in terms of solo singles— timberlake's GREAT singles go 4-5 deep whereas usher's goes 6-7 deep, but i think they are both worthy of each other's company.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link
"U Got It Bad" and "Burn" are both nice, though both could use nicer production (Burn's percussion already sounds dated)
But neither touches "What Goes Around...Comes Around" and "Cry Me a River." (I know everyone will disagree, but...) Timberlake sounds so much more soulful than Usher. All four tracks are well-written, but from a production standpoint, only the latter two pass.
"You Make Me Wanna" has potential, but unfortunately, Usher's generally bland delivery ruins it. Sure, he occasionally tries to pepper the chorus with some vocal gymnastics, but it's not very endearing. Compare to, say, "Summer Love" (which rides on an equally repetitive but infectious hook). Unlike Usher, Timberlake pulls out his swagger and completely nails the vocal.
I love "My Way" and "Confessions Pt. 2," the former primarily for nostalgic reasons (though it's still a nice track, albeit a bit forgetable) and the latter for it's verses (i fall for lots of piano-based tracks). I'm not completely sure where they stand in relation to Timberlake's singles, but I do know that I listen to "Like I Love You" and "Lovestoned" more than either.
― Tape Store, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 05:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i'll give you production on timberlake songs> production on usher songs in terms of progressivisms (and if production is what make timberlake songs for you— esp. new ones— i can't really fault that), but in terms of sheer quality, i think usher worked the pop-r&B sound of the late 90s-early 2000s pretty well. his tracks are usually all pretty spare (though i might be missing something egregious here, "yeah" not included), but i think he sounds great over your average acoustic guitar/piano/paper drum beat.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link
"Burn" sounded dated when it came out, which isn't a strike against it. It always felt like a tiredish retread of "U Got It Bad", though, which is a strike.
Anyways, you are both ignoring the splendid BLOOD DIAMONDS of "Caught Up". Those horns! That bassline! Those bizarre lyrics! Those crazy adlibs!
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link
The video where he finally goes "fuck it, I'm going to stop pretending I'm not an MJ wannabe"!
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:17 (sixteen years ago) link
also "yeah" is better club song than anything timberlake has done, though idk how much of that is of usher's doing.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually, now that I think of it, "Caught Up" itself is the moment Ursh finally gives into every MJ-wannabe impulse he's ever had.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link
..as "Like I Love You" is to JT.
usher could reduce timberlake to cinder if they showed up on stage together. timberlake is intelligent, inspired, enthusiastic but in comparison he's such a gawky amateur he might as well be david byrne.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Who's David Burn?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Alright, news media, pick the doll you think is nicer.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link
that's a weird field. lol @ shipley dropping "ursher" in a sentence.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link
er weird thread. got "minimal techno" on my mind.
Fact: In the Jackin' Pop poll, FutureSex/LoveSounds was the only high-ranked album by a white artist to score better among black voters than white voters.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link
even beat the Hold Steady? Wowsers.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Futuresex did a good job of working around and with the dork factor than Justified, which tried to pretend it didn't exist.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Usher could take him
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:35 (sixteen years ago) link