keepin it positive jocular humor i <3 cricket crew w/ the serious dance musics discussion crew, input from the jackoff sesh regs, the dance nerd posse
breakdown of who is in each clique, pls
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
or at least just tell me which one i fall into
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
keepin it positive jocular humor i <3 cricket crew
maxice creamlamp
the serious dance musics discussion crew
vahidtim fmatt dcrtclexblueski
(? basically the funky house crew)
input from the jackoff sesh regs
merevdeejsurfboard dudes totally (?)
the dance nerd posse
not sure how this is different than the other group? i guess ppl i've never heard of
j@cobw i l lsiah alandisplay name
(?)
― it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
poll
― i got nothin (deej), Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Dance nerd reporting in, how do you all feel about the Salem remixes of Gucci Mane?
http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/01/salem-remix-gucci-mane/
Yes, I know its the Fader, I'm sorry OK?
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Saturday, 10 October 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno if he's on this thread (i'm not gonna look) but surely ronan is a dance nerd
― butt sound insanity (gbx), Saturday, 10 October 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
or srs dance musics discussion crew
ronan is serious dance musics discussion crew
those remixes of gucci were awful
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Saturday, 28 August 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
"why yes, i am a climber-- we should go back to my place and climb into my hot tub while i tell you about it."
― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:10 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Sunday, 21 August 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
i'm into these dudes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjBc7o8qPgA
― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 10 May 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://thump.vice.com/words/how-diplo-and-the-hollerboard-changed-everything
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 5 June 2014 06:01 (nine years ago) link
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2082673896/bloghouse-the-book/description
― etc, Thursday, 8 February 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link
Man, kind of a trip to read back through this thread
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
can one donate to an anti-kickstarter to prevent this book from being written
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25660369_10155952627702008_5003479507287019891_n.jpg
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
haha oops
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25660369_10155952627702008_5003479507287019891_n.jpg?oh=2d18209751fd927e3b8282e518874027&oe=5B1F79B7
ok not *entirely* the same thing but incredible to me that people are still riding for 2008
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
ahahahaha
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
TLG : is that a current night out, or an old flyer ?
― mark e, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
looks like the kickstarter already met its goal
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link
wow just realized this is the tenth anniversary of frankendance
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
oh god it's (half) by meaghan garveyshe's probably not responsible for the absolute worst of what pitchfork's written, but she is the worst in critically questionable self-awareness lacking white-gazey stuff from there that i can attach to a name off the top of my head
― heliogabberlus, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
xxxp current night out
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
you can tell its current bc the web address is fb and not mypace
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
lol
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
aaron aamnesiaa must have forgotten the last 10 years happened
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
you can tell its current bc the web address is fb and not mypace― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:27 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinklol
i had this exact same thought after i posted actually.and you know what, if i lived in a town with a scene and was in the mood for going out i would totally go to a night that played that stuff.i loved it them (as a bystander due to life), and still do.this mixed in with some electroclash would totally hit my sweet spot.
― mark e, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
hood pass revoked
― the late great, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link
cant believe this formulation is a decade old:
My theory is that 2008 breaks down like this:
1) Too much of what is good and popular is not populist (nu-deep-minimal; space disco/balearic for the most part; upmarket dubstep)2) Too much of what is good and populist is not popular (UK funky house)3) Too much of what is popular and populist is not good (blog-house/frankendance; downmarket dubstep)
― Tim F, Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:17 PM (nine years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
extremely curious how Tim thinks the following ten years played out, if it veered away from this concern or back to it or what have you
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
TLG : yeah yeah, give an old(er) man a nu-electro-distorted-compressed-to-fuck break.
― mark e, Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
Here's another little time capsule from upthread:
If anything this stuff is probably the North American version of grime. It has a lot of the same weaknesses and will probably have about the same longevity as a genre. I can't really get upset about this stuff because it is going to go away as quickly as it came.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/firemarshalmeaghan/bloghouse-mix-2018
lol this is cheating
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 02:45 (six years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink
I don't think the formulation really applies anymore because the whole notion of scene allegiance within dance music has broken down further since 2008. At least as far as I can tell (and note I am now 35 so perhaps am not the best person to ask) less people than ever are really invested in organising themselves into distinct audiences around particular sub-genres. This was already going on of course and really you could say that dance music has simply followed rock music's lead - rock music was already in this state a decade ago.
There will always be exceptions of hardcore faithfuls, of course. But the difference I discern now is that a lot of the long tails from what was about ten years ago have basically converged into a kind of broad, stable disco-house-techno continuum where most people are into bits of everything along that spectrum and all that is really left to judge is the thoughtfulness or charisma with which particular stylistic narratives are executed.
The other big intervening development obviously was EDM, but I think people miss some of the nuances of EDM's impact: it was and is so obviously crass that I feel like it has had the perverse effect of pushing a lot of people who might otherwise be (and historically were) into relatively-crass material like blog-house or etc. towards more tasteful material.
In respect of this frankendance specifically I just don't hear much that really sounds like it now, which is probably a function of the above: I feel like much of the audience for it has basically split three ways between EDM, hip hop and techno, i.e. they've chosen to go with whichever frankenstein bodypart they liked most rather than stick with the whole corpse.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link
they've chosen to go with whichever frankenstein bodypart they liked most rather than stick with the whole corpse
😂😂😂
― the late great, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 04:13 (six years ago) link
meghan garvey mix is like 70% not remotely bloghouse
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link
EDM ... had the perverse effect of pushing a lot of people who might otherwise be (and historically were) into relatively-crass material like blog-house or etc. towards more tasteful material
great point
all str8 hipster afterhours parties i've been to in the last 2 yrs are either disco -> house -> techno or disco <-> house. last time i heard any electro or r&b or rap at one was like, 2014? there's still a lot of juke/club influenced stuff in queer dance parties imo, but doesn't feel like there's a straight line from bloghouse to that
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 04:37 (six years ago) link
Yeah don't discount the regional/global/deconstructed/post-deconstructed club thing.
To me that's always seemed separate from the bloghouse thing, even if there was some mingling at the time this thread was started?
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
― flopson, Monday, February 19, 2018 10:33 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol im saying ... maybe even higher
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 05:02 (six years ago) link
― flopson, Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:37 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This feels spot on to me except that hipsters seem to still love rap when it plays at festivals (whether via an actual act or as interstitial music)
― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 05:52 (six years ago) link
in north america festivals are mostly for norms or hippies. hipsters will forever like rap i meant more hearing rap in club context å la frankendance
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 06:41 (six years ago) link
This is a useful cross-cultural exchange
― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 07:45 (six years ago) link
lol :)
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 08:00 (six years ago) link
TBH I think this would have happened anyway with a sizeable proportion of them. I guess the main difference between now and then is that structurallly there just isn't a *need* for a gateway drug from rock music into dance music proper - at least not in the UK and Europe where there are plenty of kids now young enough to have been played house music in the womb. In the US there might be but the gateway needs to be from another direction, I guess this is where EDM comes in.
A tempting but probably not entirely accurate narrative centres around the moment when the Justice Fabriclive 37 mix was shitcanned, Caspa & Rusko were drafted in at short notice and the rest, as far as cartoonish mid-range blare goes, is history. Somewhere there's a parallel universe where that never happened and the evolution of EDM took a slightly different course.
(In addition to just getting into house/techno/disco a lot of the newly grown-up fanbase drifted towards post-dubstep, particularly the jukier more rhythmic side of Hessle Audio, bits of Night Slugs etc.)
It's also significant that 'electro' as a catch-all term for dance music as used by indie kids has virtually disappeared over the last decade, anything termed electro now is more likely to mean DJ Stingray or Helena Hauff or something. By which I mean it veers a lot closer to 'classic' electro with techno elements thrown in, rather than electroclash or frankenhouse or anything similar, and it's not really dilettante-friendly music in the same way.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
This has been the best song of every year since 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__TY_86stXw
― J. Sam, Saturday, 27 August 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link