― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link
Whats the diff between saying "this rapper isn't melodic enough" and "this beat doesn't use real instruments"?
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
Which is obviously not as much fun, or as honest, or as interesting, as kissing the genre's butt as if he was the teacher's pet, right?
― chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link
If I was "kissing a genre's butt" how could I appreciate Dizzee Rascal?
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link
I was more perturbed by the positive comparison to Rakim, who is a much more distinctive rapper - I'm saying that how distinctive/charismatic a rapper is doesn't NECCESSARILY have anything to do w/ melodicism. It certainly doesn't in Rakim's case.
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago) link
Of course, Chuck, everyone's opinion is just as valuable as anyone elses. Just like in the article where the elementary school kids reviewed Radiohead tracks, it was cool because it cleverly jabbed at people who think that people need to "know" about something to enjoy it. I don't claim that he has to like Rakim. But I'm arguing that enjoying Rakim is NOT rockist, it is not blind acceptance of some genre's "line of thought," it's that I find Rakim to be a more charismatic and interesting rapper than Royce.
the crack about spaceships = stupid. I listen to Lil Jon and David Banner and T.I. and Rakim and enjoy them all.
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:48 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 19:51 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link
Spaceships?
Oh and when I think of rhyme schemes, I think of Mikah 9 or Pharoahe Monch and such, btw.
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Sym (shmuel), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link
― djdee2005, Monday, 29 March 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 05:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 05:58 (twenty years ago) link
― wildabeast, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 06:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Jessy, Sunday, 4 April 2004 23:40 (twenty years ago) link
― DUBROC, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
1. Rakim2. Nas (Illmatic)3. Kool G. Rap4. Canibus5. Kane
― Shortie Tim, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Sears, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
The internet would have to contain infinite space for me to name all the reasons why Rakim is the greatest
― baaderonixx, Monday, 17 November 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
the acapella of follow the leader stands on it own as a song: http://www.jamglue.com/tracks/47691-Rakim-eric-b-follow-the-leader-acapella
― elan, Monday, 17 November 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
it seems like Rakim is mostly so widely respected because he was such a game-changer, no? Like, in hip-hop there's kind of a very distinct before/after schism with him in terms of rapping styles (similar to how there's a really clear before/after schism with Run DMC and production styles), but he's hardly the MC I most enjoy listening to or anything like that. I feel like I appreciate him in more of an academic sense than a visceral one. so many guys that came after him have expanded on the foundation he laid down it's hard for me to deny that I prefer them more - they just went farther, have a wider range, regardless of the respect due to the originator.
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 August 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
also maybe this is heresy but um some of Eric B's beats are kinda shitty
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 August 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
1. rakim hits me totally viscerally -- i think the reason he was a game changer was bcuz he was pushing his style in a more naturalistic direction -- emphasis on 'style,' a highly stylized emphasis on realness instead of artifice ... imo the rappers who move the game forward the most are always breaking new ground in terms of visceral affect
2. eric b didnt actually make most of those beats iirc & they dont suck at all
really surprised to see this from shakey mo, smh (shakey mo head)
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Friday, 20 August 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link