LONE SURVIVOR: Marky Mark, Tim Riggins, Ben Foster and that Into The Wild kid are SEAL Team 10 hooyah

Discuss?

apparently odious miliraist horseshit

real patriots sending death threats to film critics over it

militarist horseshit

the most extraordinary war film since saving private ryan

I saw this tonight and thought it was exhausting, crazy, terrifying, and kinda fucking great? I keep hearing comparisons to Saving Private Ryan[i] but I think that's only because the battle stuff maybe reminds ppl of the Normandy landing stuff. To me the parallel is more [i]Black Hawk Down

Very battle-focused, Berg pretty much committed to telling the irl story 100% as far as I can gather. Lots of actual footage of the SEALs at the beginning and end.

Really want to read the book now that I've seen this.

also: facepalm-sidenote: holy crap tim riggins is *ripped* in this O_O

it's only odious militarist horseshit if focusing on the SEALs' experience of conflict makes u uncomfortable imo

I get that people might not like a wider perspective or moralizing and don't really want to see war on screen without something to make them feel okay for letting these dudes fight but... I honestly prefer this kind of war movie. Maybe that makes me a gungho oorah weirdo but truthfullly, I care more about the no-name guys that fight than anything else of why they are there or who doesn't like that they're fighting or why they shouldn't etc. I'm always glad when stories like this get told without flinching. Those are the stories that matter to me personally.

oops: might not like = might like

is it a straightforward cut and dry war story like you'd get w/ some of the more cynical wwii movies or is it the kinda overromanticised 'these men are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for freedom' sentimental garbage that's kinda typical of a society completely out of touch w/ its military? also is it entertaining? also peter berg's like a run of the mill shit director right, is there something i'm forgetting that explains why ppl talk about him like he can hold ron howard's jock?

the most extraordinary war film since saving private ryan

― balls, Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:43 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

the rundown's pretty good for that kind of thing, balls

it's more like if Generation Kill showed a twohour episode of just straightup battle. But with that same funny dialogue and hurt your heart to watch unity.

Berg gets a little bit corny in a couple of places, but for the most part he's pretty steel-eyed. imo.

the rundown w/ the rock and stifler and the lovely rosario dawson?

Berg is good when he cares about the story he's telling. He was so good at Friday Night Lights, and this is that same level of caring, just with a different focus and WAY more intensity.

Explosions in the Sky do the score so you can also just pretend that it's Dillon Panthers Go To War if you want

huh the very one. i did enjoy that pretty much. his 30 for 30 was boring imo. hancock sucked.

never watched friday night lights. or generation kill. or treme. i have however seen many episodes of rules of engagement.

is that hot chick from rules of engagement in this? lance donovan's ex-wife.

FNL is the greatest tv show in the history of electricity no exaggeration well actually a big exaggeration anyway it's good
Generation Kill also A+

wtf is rules of engagement

a moderately enjoyable romcom sitcom w/ patrick warburton and lance donovan's hot ex-wife. they show reruns on wgn i think. they show reruns on lots of channels.

hm. well, landon donovan's ex wife is not in this movie iirc. maybe that rules u out idk

friday night lights (movie) is p good, never saw show

u guys

cmon

lift yr game, you are letting me down big time

tv show is 100 times better than the movie

holy crap tim riggins is *ripped* in this O_O

ripped APART more like am i right?!

haha i know i need to watch it. seein that kyle chandler guy kickin ass in movies has made me more resolved to check it out

xpost correct on both counts

once you've witnessed kyle chandler coachin' it up you'll never see him any other way

also connie britton cmon is there a finer lady workin on tv right now

Militarist, maaaaaybe. The book is full of "Saddam <3 Osama" and Crusader-y takes on Iraq/Afghanistan (Luttrell and Chris Kyle could have joined forces and become superstar right-wing fiction writers, IMO). Some of that bleeds through into the movie, but not completely.

I actually thought the way this was shot was less glamorizing of war/combat than SPR or Black Hawk Down (which I rescreened recently and is quite a bit better than I gave it credit for). 'Die for my brothers,' etc., definitely, but no one is depicted as a super bad-ass superhero as they're bouncing down a rocky hill getting fucked up. Edelstein complained that the movie never points to Iraq drawing attention/troops/etc. away from Afghanistan but I don't know that it was within the movie's purview to deal with that.

Weak points:
- the worst is Marky Mark. He's playing the same character he did in Shooter, and a few times he gets that bug-eyed/whiny voice for emphasis thing that didn't work at all. The guy who played the Commander would have been a better Luttrell.

- second is Berg's hard-on for Explosions in the Sky. Noodling psych made a good score for West Texas panoramas, totally doesn't work in conert with self-consciously arty shots of an out-of-focus sun here

- more setup on the brotherhood angle, maybe? the bit with the blonde new SEAL didn't have much impact

- that awful cover of "Heroes" over the pictures of the real SEALs

ripped Emile Hirsch was pretty weird. I'm glad Ben Foster didn't get jacked for the role. Bodybuilding ginger is NAGL

Whatever gave you that idea?

Oh ... right.

"it"

agreed re: the cover of 'Heroes', it was a bit on the nose. but I cried anyway :/

def a long way from glamorizing, v true. even if you wanted to cheer through this movie eventually you'd be sitting in O_O at how fucked up it all is

Ben Foster was the best of the main four, I never foresaw a future where Foster and McConaughey would be two of my favorite actors.

Trailer beforehand had two (2) (!) Zac Efron movies, thought that was an odd call. One looks like it's a rom-com for dudes?

Trailers beforehand

trailer for the movie about the life of Jesus more accurate for the crowd I saw it with... except that the whole movie is in Spanish.

we had trailers for 300 sequel and that weird looking Chris Pine/Jack Ryan movie, they must have known our theater was full of 40+ dudes

that awful cover of "Heroes" over the pictures of the real SEALs - WOW

yeahhhh

look at this pan, aaaand the comments

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/lone-survivor

ugh yeah

Why I Hate America, exhibit 94(a).

I thought sections of this (especially the battle on the hillside turning from first-person-shooter thrills to nightmare) were brilliant. Some of it seemed ridiculous, but then, the most ridiculous thing of all seemed the guy risking the lives of his whole village to help Marcus Luttrell, yet it seems that really happened, so what do I know? The Taliban attack on the village at the end of the film is fictional, though.

the battle sequences were legit scary

the corny credit sequence is still pictures of dead people fyi

i watched most of this, it is not that bad, so fucking peter berg directorial style to the nth degree, and i totally called bullshit loudly on the adorable kid handing wahlberg a knife at the exat moment he needs it to kill the taliban jezus christ @ that fiction device

seeing this in a packed theater of white slobs weeping and sobbing every time one of Are Brave Boys died was one of the best/most surreal theater experiences i've ever had. and it has the most insane guy-rolling-down-a-ravine-and-hitting-every-rock-on-the-way-down scene since that ep of the Simpsons where homer falls down a cliff twice. and then during the 'Heroes' montage at the end they edit it so when the guy yells on the song it's timed perfectly with a shot of a SEAL yelling in agony or something, how is this movie real

weirdest thing about this awful, fetishistic movie to me is that the ways in which the three soldiers die onscreen differs slightly from the best guesses as to what happened to them in real life.

like, the reality wasn't dramatic enough for berg, he had to add some flourishes like the bullets slamming into the tree behind the guy's head before he gets one in the temple?

lol h4a otm

oh yeah thats the other thing the gore in this is insane... loved that