TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - matthew mcconaughey, woody harrelson, michelle monaghan, fukunaga, pizzolatto

seems like yr standard options are: 1) loony serial killer, 2) "this conspiracy goes ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP", 3) family member you least suspect, 4) something totally mundane (drug-related, organized crime etc.)

5) horrifying extradimensional being of unimaginable power

I guess

i guess one in which the conspiracy turned out to be totally fabricated? maybe that's been done too.

6) One of the good guys

one of the things I love about Twin Peaks is that it uses all of those simultaneously

7. eh just trails off

The show was definitely trying to make you think it was Rust for a while. I don't know if that would actually have been novel or not, but something about it would definitely feel cheap.

I don't think it was. it was trying to make you think the detectives thought it was. but prob they didn't rly.

that was one of the cooler parts of the show for me, in that 2/3 was ostensibly about whether Rust was the murderer--to the extent that the camera POV was quite often that of the interrogating detectives--which is a neat device for allowing a character to expound upon a (possibly self-incriminating) worldview at length. but there's some kind of shift in POV that i can't put my finger on which occurs after rust breaks off the interrogation.

the funny part was that their theories about rust were at least as speculative as rust's "sprawl" theories were!

and i think that's the kind of balance that makes Marty so important--he's like the self-interested doubting thomas of it all.

ppl still trying on the "what WOULDNT be bad" ending?? aim higher yo

in real life, the "powerful preying on the weak" took the form of cops and politicians railroading people like the WM3 and daycare workers for expediency and political gain the Catholic Church

This show was very, very good. Although reading this thread has made me stop wanting to read commentary re: shows as they are happening.

otm

yeah enjoyed this and pretty much hated everything i read about it

i'm coming around to that POV

yeah I've found myself getting much more OH FFS now with other shows.
like GOT recaps up like 5 minutes after the episode airs and it's like FUCKING SHUT UP WHO CARES

my favorite aspect of recap culture is tv critics whining about netflix's model, the idea that maybe there are other ways to write tv criticism than 'recap plot w/ asides about what worked and didn't work and maybe some bullet points of really awesome moments/lines at the end', and the general being completely out of touch w/ marathoning being how ALOT of tv is watched nowadays.

guys i'm watching this show now! don't tell me anything.

yes. Just watch it if you want, if you like it keep watching it until you don't want to.

However, I still am all too happy to read commentary on Top Chef. That never gets old.

However, I still am all too happy to read commentary on Top Chef. That never gets old.

omg how could this not suck?? I trust you've found the one forum that's not all armchair-foodie O4U

I was totally off in my upthread analysis of this show, based on assumptions about what I thought was going to happen so yeah premature overthinking is probably best kept to oneself

my favorite aspect of recap culture is tv critics whining about netflix's model, the idea that maybe there are other ways to write tv criticism than 'recap plot w/ asides about what worked and didn't work and maybe some bullet points of really awesome moments/lines at the end', and the general being completely out of touch w/ marathoning being how ALOT of tv is watched nowadays.

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totes

Beginning Season One in five minutes!

whaaaat

don't have HBO see

don't check back in on this thread til you've finished and maybe not even then.

yeah unlike some other shows i think the internet speculation and the ability to get some kind of confirmation for any red herring you feel like following really didn't do anything to enhance the show.

Just finished S1 last nice. Really great and eerie and all but for some reason in found the falling-apart family stuff to be the most unsettling.

Notes:

1. What a novelty to watch McConougheyhey play a role requiring intelligence and pungency, and he savors every word.

2. The episode in which Cohle and Hart visit their respective whores = yawn. Heterosexual fantasies on film/sex demand wives and whores,
filmed and written in the most pedantic ways.

3. The intensity of a couple of scenes -- the interrogation in the third episode -- reminded me of Todd Haynes, particularly Safe: a clammy hermetic intensity.

So...good show! Didn't care for the final chase -- straight outta too many movies -- and am OK with the final chat b/c the show is about a reasonably intelligent man trying to mesh with a man w/a loose crew but whose intelligence is unavoidable. The allusions to supernatural mishmash are MacGuffins, so who cares. I love the production design. Cohle's bar looks like restaurants I've visited in rural Durham: a house turned into a bar or mediocre BBQ shack.

Oh -- I've read three quarters of this thread and no outside "thinkpieces" because TV show analysis is fucking terrible.

this thread is terrible too

ithe show is about a reasonably intelligent man trying to mesh with a man w/a loose crew but whose intelligence is unavoidable.

love this, it gets the thing that really made the show work for me which is how well done the marty character is.

otm

lol thanks guys -- hope the comment still makes sense when I meant "screw"

hah yup i figured it out as enjoyable a phrase as "loose crew" is

I think in Louisiana, they're called "krewes".

...

OMG this show

just started rewatching s01 with the girlfriend. just as good 2nd time around.

HBO made some official statement denying plagiarism and Thomas Ligotti's fans are pissed about it because they say some of the pessimistic dialogue is near identical to some of Ligotti's passages.
I think there was also some people saying it lifted from specific writing of Alan Moore or Grant Morrison too.

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5975769/true-detective-a-work-of-plagiarism-a-guide

http://takimag.com/article/fake_detective_ann_sterzinger/print#axzz39ck6v4Qk

Also there was an MTV article saying "you can't steal from a book"

No links to takimag plz

lol nerds

I know nothing about Takimag other than this article

Make sure you keep it that way

Why are you so anti-tmag?

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