OPO, so what was the worst film you ever saw?

A rare example of so bad it's good. Don't know what film it is. I doubt the whole film is this good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg

Bad being funny but also satisfyingly surreal, perhaps an accidental brilliance? The shouting isn't in the original version apparently. This is a dubbed version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrnariwULfA

I think the O'Neal film is Tough Guys Don't Dance, directed by Mailer himself. Saw it in a theatre when it came out. Pretty damn bad.

I'm a Britishes who liked Match Point, it reminded me of Death Line aka Raw Meat (American director filming in London, the police presented as clowns)

The one excuse I can make for that Mailer film clip is that I'm sure there's some people who act that weirdly when they are upset.

Which brings me back to what I was saying on the Game Of Thrones thread about a reviewer saying that Harvey's geeky friend in American Splendor seems to be acted really badly, but when you see the real guy later in the film, you see that it's an accurate portrayal of him. He acts really strangely.

I think if Helen Mirren did a really accurate portrayal of The Queen, people would have hated her for it. I've seen the Queen crying on tv and she looks really strange in a way that wouldn't be comfortably received in a big film.

When I watch examples of bad acting I'm rarely confident about agreeing that it is bad. That famous Keanu Reeves Dracula scene near the start is one I could confidently call bad acting. Lots of British soap acting too.
I know clarity and impressiveness is usually prized over realism (although high exaggeration, expressionist and surreal acting isn't accepted in many contexts now) but I don't think awkwardness needs to be mocked so often as it is.

I do see plenty of bad acting in b-movies in terms of action and struggle looking unconvincing.

2001 Maniacs and Zombie Women Of Satan are both banal and offensive in a way I've never seen in Oscar type films. It's the arrogance and smugness of the wallowing stupidity, the lowbrow repulsiveness that is more than just incompetence.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:12 AM (1 hour ago)

i've never seen either but take your point. the performances in both look atrocious, truly unbearable in the insistent, brayingly crass manner particular to failed idiot farce. the cinema, on the other hand, seems lacklustre at worst, nowhere near so howlingly wretched as that "worst movie death scene ever!" clip. (what the hell is that from, btw?)

going by your other comments itt, i gather that it's the sensibility on display that elevates these in your mind from merely bad to all time worst. you're not simply noting artistic failure, you're expressing outrage over something that offends you personally. though the nature of the offense taken is somewhat different, the basic reaction is quite similar to that experienced by those of us who single out films like the titanic and requiem for a dream for special opprobrium. we most hate the films that best push our buttons.

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first one that comes to mind is a bronx tale. p much the anti-goodfellas

I think the different types of offense is where it gets more complicated. Many of the cited films seem insufficient to me because they're only sickeningly sentimental, displaying dumb commonplace (but not malicious) attitudes or trying but failing to be profound in an annoying way. That isn't nearly as bad seeming to me because it's too ordinary to be truly unbearable. That doesn't give me the feeling of being forced to eat dogshit.

I guess mainstream films that glorify Che Guevara, Stalin and Mao could be seen as the ultimate offensiveness but I'd say they were probably more ignorant in a naive way than anything. Which is kind of sinister but not the worst in my view.

I'm sure violent fantasy like Death Wish has been cited above. I've seen quite a few film critics claiming that school of "depict reprehensible people so we can feel good about killing them in total fury" is the worst thing in cinema.

Norbert was being called extremely racist and that was a fairly big film.

I've seen bits of bad taste films (might be excessively harsh to associate the aforementioned films with this, apologies to makers who are probably nice enough people) where you imagine it appeals to people who make youtube playlists devoted to laughing at disabled people, public assaults on innocent people filmed on camera phone; make jokes about beating up girlfriends and children.

There used to be a guy on a horror forum who written homophobic novels featuring heroes who killed gay men. What does bestseller fluff have to compare to that stink?
I've heard that some Christian right wing films and books have shit like that but I don't know how widely accepted into mainstream culture those books are.

I've walked out of the cinema from three films in my life, mostly through angry boredom; The River Wild, the remade The Thomas Crowne Affair and American Hustle. I'm sure these aren't the worst films ever made but they sure sucked.

might try to catch the river wild based on that tbph

I really wouldn't. The other two aren't really bad films they just annoyed me on a bad day. The River Wild is just shit.

Another awful one: GayN***ers From Outer Space. A half hour comedy about black gay aliens who come to earth to destroy women and make earth exclusively for gay men. On a shoestring budget.
It's so lifeless to the extent that the whole thing seems to be made begrudgingly. It's actually not as offensive as you might imagine because it seems like nobody involved truly cared.

having watched Grand Budapest Hotel I've come to the conclusion Wes Anderson and his self-conscious kookiness doesn't sit well with me at all. the only one I found mildly tolerable was Darjeeling Unlimited. I wouldn't call his films the worst, but they do make me feel uncomfortable and despondent when I watch them. people are very surprised to hear this from me because i think they assume I'd love this sort of stuff - and it's true, I do like that sort of stuff, just not that stuff.

It's very difficult getting that sort of stuff right to the satisfaction of those who are into that sort of stuff, in my experience.

Sometimes things can be so closely pitched to your own sensibilities that they don't appeal at all - it's something I find happens quite a lot actually and I wonder if it's a matter for a new thread as I feel the same way about the music of Nick Cave.

Yeah. Maybe it's something to do with the narcissism of small differences, or maybe it's just that adjectives like "quirky" are just a bit useless.

I can see what you might be getting at with Nick Cave, but I do think it applies in particular to humour.

cf Simpsons good, Family Guy awful.

been over a year, many terrible movies under my belt, Vulgar still holds the crown

Nominations for the excellent America's sweethearts still nonsense itt

I'd maybe allow that the graduate is now my nomination here btw

The recent Poltergeist remake is a heck of a contender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEcArMzmeM0

Miami Connection (1987). I know that it has a cult following as an entertainingly bad film, but it didn't provide me with distraction, let alone entertainment.

Meet Joe Black, for me.

i always say hook just because it was made by someone talented with a lot of money and pretty much everything about it is wrong or tone-deaf or written badly or acted badly or miscast. though its actually hard to say if its the worst robin williams movie. definitely the worst spielberg. all the kids in it are like sub-thunderdome acting-wise and appeal-wise. which is also weird for spielberg.

obviously there are tons of horrible no-name and no-budget movies. the bad sundance movies usually offend me more than the bad genre ones though.

there should be a worst big-budget thread. not just for flops but just the worst movies that cost a zillion dollars.

Surely "Jack" is the consensus worst Robin Williams movie?

some would say patch adams. i dunno, there is a lot to choose from. try and sit through Toys. i mean the WHOLE movie with no cheating.

Robin Adams, yknow, sad and all, yknow, but fuck me what an awful presence.

i always thought mrs. doubtfire was a nightmare and should be remade as the terrifying horror film that it is.

Not quite Chevy chase, Steve Martin, rodney Dangerfield 'america made these people rich on the basis of their being funny?' awful but then those ppl never pretended to be actors

it's so weird that robin williams movies mimic that arduous and strenuous and sweaty energy he had. they are such a trudge. even stuff like jumanji and the fisher king which aren't really terrible are like oh my god is this movie over yet? bicentennial man and what dreams may come are both six hours long.

In recent memory it's this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/BlastFromThePast.jpg/215px-BlastFromThePast.jpg

We were staying with my partner's aunt in a teensy caravan in Donegal, she introduces it as one of her favourite movies and makes us watch it, so I had to pretend to think it was OK.

Kind of an OK concept, and Brendan Fraser gives a game performance, but just a terrible terrible screenplay, perhaps the most incompetent I've experienced in a Hollywood movie with actual movie stars.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ0OTE1MTk4N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMDM5OTk5NjE@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,640,1000_AL_.jpg

watched this on a plane, which might have heightened the effect, but at the time I felt this was the most spiritually and morally vacant thing I had ever seen

Sticking with many of my earlier choices but in categories

((highly accomplished in many ways but annoying or boring))
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
The Matrix
In The Mood For Love (sorry)
Tokyo Tribe (I generally like Sono)
Hero (Jet Li)
Wes Anderson films

((bad and extremely overrated but not unwatchable))
Battle Royale

((just incredibly boring))
300: Rise Of An Empire
Satanic Rites Of Dracula
Scared To Death
Ape Man
Black Dragons
Japanese Hell (Teruo Ishii)
The Beast (Borowczyk)

((lowbrow crap but far from the worst))
Sex Drive
ABCs Of Death 2 (some of the segments are okay)
Meet The Parents series
Starsky & Hutch (Stiller & Wilson)
Hot Tub Time Machine
Scream 3

((the overwhelming stench of a Family Guy fan convention, incompetence and offensive sensibilities all around))
GayN***ers From Outer Space
Little Man
Zombie Women Of Satan
2001 Maniacs

most of that stuff is REALLY avoidable. i mean you would have to go out of your way to watch them at all. but i don't doubt that there is terrible stuff there.

i don't mind seeing wes anderson movies once for the art direction/design/props/etc. but then i never need to see them again. kinda like tarantino. i mean they feel like events in a tarantino-esque way and then i forget about them. though i think i am done with tarantino for good. had absolutely no desire to see his leonardo slave movie or the snow one. as much as i love JJL.

ha i liked Blast From the Past when I saw it, i thought it was a pretty smart dumb movie.

i have liked or loved every Wes Anderson film I've seen, i admire his adherence to his particular thing. total OTT goofy action movie shit combined w/really dark emotional plot turns. obviously not for everyone.

I saw Django Unchained and jeez...well, it was the first Tarantino movie that felt genuinely bloated. actually thought the performances were overall a plus (Waltz was really outstanding, DiCaprio was really good, Foxx was...well through no fault of his own he was actually forgettable and the role was underwritten...QT gave the white guys juiciest bits in a movie about a black hero...) Definitely his worst film, I think. I don't think it was "bad" but it felt insignificant. His career trajectory is really weird to me, starting off with his three most "adult" movies and devolving from there.

i dare you guys to watch this entire TRAILER, let alone the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w00GXmJ8KA

that music they play at the end of that trailer. they really need to take it out back and shoot it in the head. i still hear it all the time.

Clerks 2, easy

I think Blast from the Past is a good bad movie. Breaking the Waves is a bad good movie.

The Legend of 1900

This is probably even worse than the S Blatter vanity pic Roth also starred in, it is ridiculous garbage given something of a respectable sheen with a Morricone soundtrack, decent production values/actors etc and a 8+ imdb rating. I think the director also did Cinema Paradiso which I also thought was overrated + unwatchable dogshit.

The Misery Brothers looks like it could be the worst movie ever made but I've never worked up the nerve to actually watch it because I think I might die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMqyMtKnL0

most of that stuff is REALLY avoidable. i mean you would have to go out of your way to watch them at all.

― scott seward, Monday, 13 March 2017 15:48

Most films are really easy to avoid. But the Iron Man and Die Hard series have become extremely annoying on uk television because they are endlessly repeated. I didn't finish several of the films I listed because they were so nauseating, so I half avoiding them but they were bad enough to leave scars.

Old Lunch has delivered with Misery Brothers. That looks properly obnoxious.

I imagine watching the Fred Movie trilogy would be a real challenge.

there were THREE of those??

Movies I gave a 1/10 on imdb, including 3 oscar best picture winners. Also lots of shit I watched as a kid in the 90s.

Mrs. Miniver (1942)
The Mummy's Ghost (1944)
Robot Monster (1953)
Santa Claus (1959)
The Beast of Yucca Flats (1961)
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
Monster a-Go Go (1965)
The Wild World of Batwoman (1966)
Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966)
Warrior of the Lost World (1983)
Troll 2 (1990)
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (1992)
Star Trek: Generations (1994)
Baby's Day Out (1994)
Natural Born Killers (1994)
Car 54, Where Are You? (1994)
D2: The Mighty Ducks (1994)
Braveheart (1995)
Money Train (1995)
Operation Dumbo Drop (1995)
Free Willy 2: The Adventure Home (1995)
Theodore Rex (1995)
Bulletproof (1996)
D3: The Mighty Ducks (1996)
Gone Fishin' (1997)
Mr. Magoo (1997)
Jungle 2 Jungle (1997)
Speed 2: Cruise Control (1997)
Patch Adams (1998)
Mercury Rising (1998)
Jack Frost (1998)
Jane Austen's Mafia! (1998)
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
Frailty (2001)
Rush Hour 2 (2001)
Baadasssss! (2003)
Crash (2004)
Meet the Fockers (2004)
The Manchurian Candidate (2004)
Double Down (2005)
Passchendaele (2008)
I Am Here... Now (2009)
Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010)
Fateful Findings (2013)

fight club IMO

if we can consider 'worst movie' and 'least favorite movie of all time' to be synonymous

GTFO with your Robot Monster hate, that movie is delightful.

My IMDB movies rated 1 star, in ascending order of how different my rating was from that of the average voter:

Title	Year	IMDB Rating	# Of Ratings
Manos: The Hands of Fate	1966	1.9	31,177
The Touch of Satan	1971	2.1	2,407
Monster a-Go Go	1965	2.3	6,303
The Beast of Yucca Flats	1961	2.4	6,655
Night Train to Mundo Fine	1966	2.6	5,909
Creepshow 3	2006	3	3,650
Don't Go in the Woods	1981	3.6	2,006
Batman & Robin	1997	3.7	196,427
The Rage: Carrie 2	1999	4.6	13,386
The Flintstones	1994	4.8	62,831
Nothing But Trouble	1991	4.9	18,060
Hellraiser: Bloodline	1996	5.1	15,015
Maximum Overdrive	1986	5.4	24,057
Jingle All the Way	1996	5.5	72,649
Poltergeist II: The Other Side	1986	5.7	20,008
Thinner	1996	5.7	21,113
Not Another Teen Movie	2001	5.7	82,860
54	1998	5.8	28,318
Dracula: Dead and Loving It	1995	5.8	31,596
3 Men and a Baby	1987	5.9	38,263
The Shining	1997	6.1	12,369
Cat's Eye	1985	6.2	17,496
The Amityville Horror	1979	6.2	28,702
The Santa Clause	1994	6.4	70,108
The Prophecy	1995	6.6	25,103
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me	1999	6.6	186,700
My Big Fat Greek Wedding	2002	6.6	105,789
Lethal Weapon 4	1998	6.6	131,778
Ghosts of Mississippi	1996	6.7	8,780
Event Horizon	1997	6.7	126,066
Con Air	1997	6.8	232,648
Dirty Dancing	1987	6.9	148,736
Fallen	1998	7	60,975
Monster's Ball	2001	7.1	73,187
The Rock	1996	7.4	267,535
A Time to Kill	1996	7.4	104,480
The Bucket List	2007	7.4	192,170
Blow	2001	7.6	204,967
Little Children	2006	7.6	94,693
Crash	2004	7.8	371,668
The Goonies	1985	7.8	186,771
Awakenings	1990	7.8	96,899
The Notebook	2004	7.9	416,292
The Blues Brothers	1980	7.9	148,432
Shrek	2001	7.9	489,063
Braveheart	1995	8.4	776,287
The Lion King	1994	8.5	687,709
The Green Mile	1999	8.5	838,130
The Shawshank Redemption	1994	9.3	1,784,884