so so i just started doing this paleo diet thing - feels like it should be bullshit. is it?

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low carb diets don't burn up muscles, actually. they preserve it. so you're good.

homosexual II, Thursday, 1 August 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

I mostly use coconut oil for cooking, but it'd be nice to try ghee. If I don't use CO, I use kerrygold.

homosexual II, Thursday, 1 August 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

truthfully though that 20 pounds was probably water weight. Carbs make you retain water. It'll taper off.

homosexual II, Thursday, 1 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

thanks for the info, 'mo.

Sébastien, Thursday, 1 August 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

We mix up the fats for cooking - coconut oil, olive oil, lard, tallow too. Ghee really adds a nice flavor.

Jaq, Thursday, 1 August 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

is there any reason i cant just buy ghee?

Stunned to find this cheap at Trader Joe's, who seem to have their finger on food trends (they got into coconut oil really quick)

Brakhage, Monday, 5 August 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link

I did the butter coffee but then i added maple syrup because it was in my fridge

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 5 August 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link

is maple syrup paleo

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 5 August 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

I dgaf about diets tho

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 5 August 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link

Yes, if you're consuming sweeteners. It's lower in fructose than honey.

Jaq, Monday, 5 August 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link

ghee is awesome

Bulletproof coffee (1T butter and 2 eggs a la "bulletproof") is shockingly delicious.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Monday, 5 August 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link

I bought two 64oz bottles of local grade B maple syrup this morning before leaving michigan for a total of $60, I should be set for a year.

joygoat, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link

Hail Merry raw chocolate tarts omg. But I have to quit because I was finding too many excuses to eat them.

Jaq have you ever made your own kombucha??

homosexual II, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link

I've never tried it - I've never even tasted it! Is it good?

How is your whole 30 going so far?

Jaq, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

We haven't started yet. Waiting until the 15th!

I have already cut down on the dairy, though. I have a little bit of heavy cream I am going to finish and then I'm through.

Kombucha from the store is great! Kind of vinegary. I'm interested in raw fermented foods for their gut healing properties. I might make some raw sauerkraut.

homosexual II, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

i am totally NOT eating anything similar to a paleo diet (apart from whole, natural foods) but i 100% vouch for the benefit of raw fermented foods. it's really easy and fun to make sauerkraut, kimchi, yogurts, kombucha, etc. i have a crock of miso in the basement that's been fermenting for a year and half, it's outstanding, and mindblowing that i can make my own miso and have it come out so good.

there are some incredible books by this guy sandor ellix katz that are both accessible and thorough. i started with his first book, wild fermentation, which is a little more step-by-step and recipe-based than the art of fermentation, which gives general guiding principles and encourages more experimentation. both are amazing books.

marcos, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

thanks Marcos!!

I got some culture starter ordered from amazon. I am going to start with some raw fermented veggies, maybe move up to kombucha or water kefir after I get a bit braver.

homosexual II, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

I am a week in to a paleo autoimmune protocol - no dairy, grains, legumes, seeds, nuts, nightshades or NSAIDS. I am down 5 lbs and actually feel a lot more alert and like I have more energy. I was afraid of this, but I think it's the dairy.

homosexual II, Friday, 16 August 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

A visiting friend brought me a really great specialty pizza from a fancy place nearby and while it was delicious, I woke up the next day feeling like I'd been worked over by a lead pipe and a hangover, and I had neither. I think that was the cheese even though it didn't give me gastric problems. ;__;

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 16 August 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

Oddly, I am having a far easier time waking up in the morning, too. I don't know if that's related at all to the dietary change.

homosexual II, Friday, 16 August 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Are you going to try to do the add-back-in protocol after 30 days? (eat a potential offender for 3 days, see how you feel for the next 3 days, etc)

Jaq, Friday, 16 August 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but I might go for longer than thirty days. We'll see. I'm missing nuts and seeds a whole lot.

homosexual II, Saturday, 17 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

I am on day 19 of an autoimmune paleo protocol (pretty much Whole30 but even stricter) - and I actually feel... wayyyyy better. I have far more energy, I'm sleeping better, and my skin looks awesome. I highly recommend everyone tries this!

homosexual II, Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

What all kind of things are nightshades? I'm gearing up for a whole30 in October, but maybe this stricter one is the thing to try this time.

I've been playing with non-almond flour baking substitutes like arrowroot powder and tapioca starch, which has been not too disastrous.

Jaq, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

I know for sure that tomatos are in the nightshade family. Beyond that, ignorance is all I can offer.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Did a quick look on wikipedia - tomato, tomatillo, chili peppers, eggplant, potato, and bell peppers. Bell peppers mess with me already; I could drop the others for a month just to see what happens.

Jaq, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

I ate pasta today and I wanted to die--as Yerac puts it, it felt like a baby was punching my stomach from the inside. Fuck. This is actually happening, isn't it.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

It's true, just thinking about what I used to consume in vast quantities now makes me ill, because eating even a little bit of it now I notice it fucking with me

Brakhage, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

The thing that's bumming me out is my inability to construct a coffee creamer that I can deal with - the best I've got right now is whisked coconut oil, I gotta start blending that stuff proper

Brakhage, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

I use canned coconut milk, mixed with some vanilla extract. If the cream/fat has separated, I hit with the stick blender.

Jaq, Friday, 30 August 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

I think coconut milk also hurts me! I like some of the non-dairy ice creams that use it but they make me as sick as dairy ice cream. :(

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 30 August 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

Almond milk is not that bad in coffee. Not that great but not that bad.

Treeship, Friday, 30 August 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

I use almond, I think the nuttiness actually complements coffee!

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link

i make my own almond milk and use it in coffee, it's good

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

io, have you looked at any information on FODMAP (i think that's the acronym) sensitivity? It's a special class of carbohydrate that messes with some people, and coconut is one of the offenders due to fructose malabsorption.

Jaq, Friday, 30 August 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

I just stumbled across that the other day, haven't fully investigated yet--but I don't react to those fruits listed, or the alliums, or some of the other things. My list so far seems to be unreacted dairy, wheat in some amounts/combinations but maybe not ALL (still trying to figure this out), lentils/beans, things made from coconut milk.

;_____;

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

Something to watch out for with coconut milk - some brands have guar gum, which is made from beans

Jaq, Friday, 30 August 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

That seems like important information, which I appreciate. The coconut milk ice cream in my freezer does indeed have guar gum in it.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

Okay yesterday was day 30 of my autoimmune protocol! Overall I lost 12 lbs, and I feel like I am sleeping way better. My skin is also way insanely clear, and my totally NUTTY heavy periods actually seemed to lighten up a bit.

I actually feel like I am making yummy food, too. Last night I made jam thumbprint cookies (coconut flour, arrowroot flour, honey, cinnamon, coconut oil and jam), apple pudding (apples and coconut milk and cinnamon boiled, then blended, then cooled in the fridge), lamb fillets, sweet potatoes, and green beans. I like to cook a bunch of food at a time for a few days worth of food. I'm spending about $150/week to feed myself. But I am eating only organic, only grassfed beef, etc. Which gets expensive.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

Next week I am also getting tested for food allergies, and by mid October my thyroid levels are going to get re-tested, so we'll see if this is even helping.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

hsII that is super encouraging! I've been using arrowroot lately to make crepes/wraps (uses eggs though), it's awesome. I also got tapioca starch to make the magic paleo no-nut dough from Tara Grant, hoping to try that this weekend.

Jaq, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

i dunno if this is paleo specific but does anyone have experience buying/using guar gum, gelatin/gelatin substitutes for ice cream (dairy/non-dairy)?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

Yes - I've found you need both guar and xanthan gum to get the best texture, and now I'm trying to stay away from both so just put up with a little iciness. I use Bob's Red Mill for both. I use Great Lakes gelatin (red container) for non-frozen puddings/custards - haven't tried freezing anything using it though.

Jaq, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Too much guar adds a really unpleasant "beany" flavor and slimy texture, I think. Xanthan improved the mouthfeel/texture without really adding to the flavor.

Jaq, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

I'd say just use gelatin - it's way better for your digestion - but I've never made any iced desserts. You could use coconut cream? I found coconut cream in a can at the asian market, with no additives.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

the gelatin seems to help keep it from solidifying into ice cube but the texture still didn't resemble ice cream. (probably because I forgot the heavy cream)

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

If you're not using any actual sugar (honey, maple syrup, etc), you've got to use xanthan and guar to get creaminess vs. solid block of ice.

Jaq, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

welp... I am going off the paleo wagon. Not because I don't want to. I love eating paleo! But my dietician ordered the MRT/LEAP food intolerance test for me, and I have TOO MANY food intolerances to eat paleo for a while. I am intolerant to things that have been staples like sweet potatoes and coconut. I am surprisingly not intolerant to a lot of grains and beans, so I am going to be eating those for a while (for a few months).

Boo. Sad.

homosexual II, Friday, 4 October 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

:(

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

:( sry homo. but maybe it'll help in the longrun?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 October 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link


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