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How msnbc became Fox's Liberal Evil Twin

Which one of these smug bastards/bastettes is the LEAST detrimental to the quality of public discourse. Are any of them worth a damn?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Rachel Maddow 16
Chris Hayes 9
Tamron Hall 4
Melissa Harris-Perry 3
Touré 2
Krystal Ball 2
Chuck Todd 1
Willie Geist 1
Al Sharpton 1
Chris Matthews 1
Alex Witt 0
Lawrence O'Donnell 0
Ed Schultz 0
Martin Bashir 0
Steve Kornacki 0
S.E. Cupp 0
Andrea Mitchell 0
Alex Wagner 0
Thomas Roberts 0
Chris Jansing 0
Mika Brzezinksi 0
Joe Scarborough 0


Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

Joe Scarborough seems like a dude with a dead hooker in his past.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

My only experiences with Morning Joe come from the Daily Show clips and that bit from last week where everyone sat around awkwardly when Chris Matthews went apeshit on that RNC Chairman.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

RIP Dylan Ratigan

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

hayes, maddow & harris-perry are totally awesome. the only watchable hosts on cable news, and some of the best major political commenters imo

i voted for hayes cuz he's cute

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

never seen hayes show so no idea how we works on tv but enjoy his writing and credit him w/ the nation doing a sports issue which will continue to amuse me for a long time.

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah i like Hayes. i have a lot of respect for Maddow, but there is something slightly off-putting about her. she's got a smart-ass/ silly thing that i personally don't mind watching but she sure as shit isn't going to win over any converts. not her mission though so eh

it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

unfortunately his show is on at pre-sunrise hours on weekends. i'll catch some segments online tho.

was sorta interested in alex wagner cuz she used to exec edit the fader but she seemed really hacky on bill maher recently

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

Wagner mostly just mediates the guests so I can't get a read on her editorially but I also have a mad crush on her + amusing to hear Floating Points or whatevs going into ad breaks

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

Chris Hayes' show is the only one sharp enough for me to actually stream three days later.

And it got me to read his new book.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

Hayes' downfall is he looks exactly like -- the resemblance is scary -- one of my best bros, also a denizen of DC; my friend is often confused for Hayes when in Dupont Circle.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah i haven't seen wagner's show but on maher she was, like, trumpeting up obama killing al-awlaki and stuff. maybe she's still trying to find her voice tho, i'm not sure how long she's been doing cable news.

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

she wasn't at all cool with the killing citizens and we're not going to tell you why it is legal thing, and i think she had greenwald on to talk about it. can't remember though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

Being essentially cableless, I do not have MSNBC or FOX either. The only person mentioned in this poll who I have seen in action is Maddow. She didn't seem especially awful in the few minutes I have been exposed to her.

Aimless, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

otoh Chuck Todd is one of the worst nerds alive.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

Wait, who is Krystal Ball?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

I like Rachel Maddow a lot, and Chris Hayes too (but like J0rdan said, his show comes on at a ridiculous hour on weekends). Alex Wagner seems way too ideological, even for msnbc.

I miss Norah O'Donnell.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

otoh Chuck Todd is one of the worst nerds alive.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

he went to UM

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

btw

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

of the ones i have seen barely i would rank maddow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matthews >> o'donnell > scarborough > schultz > sharpton. note: i have seen maybe 2 hours top of the above combined (minus matthews). bring back charles grodin.

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

a Kendall guy!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

maybe i have the wrong read on wagner. i was sorta surprised at how she came off on maher (all the bad stereotypes of an msnbc host tho far off of ed) given her background. does she host weekday stuff?

young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

I have seen S E Cupp :(

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

She has the noon EST show on weekdays xpost

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:43 (8 months ago) Permalink

o'donnell > scarborough > schultz > sharpton

I'd throw all these dudes out the window of a moving bus.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

Scarborough also a Floridian -- ugh. Sorry, guys!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

Wait, who is Krystal Ball?

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, September 4, 2012 9:36 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

an accountant who unsuccessfully ran for congress

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

i have a very visceral hatred of Martin Bashir and I think he might be the worst of the lot tbh

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Scarborough also a Floridian

Panhandle Floridian...no one should hold those people against the rest of the state.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

One of my favorite msnbc things is watching Tamron Hall get irritated by a guest.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:48 (8 months ago) Permalink

MH-P is one of the greatest living people

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

Her lisp is adorable.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

it's been often said that there is no such person, but who among current tv news ppl is close enough to cronkite that you could imagine a president saying ""if i've lost cronkite, I've lost middle america." like who is the most middle american tv new person, or who is trying to be that person the most? brian williams?

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

"if I've lost rachel maddow...I've lost middle america"

iatee, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

shep

Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

I don't think Wolf Blitzer's own mother would want him found if he was lost.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

The question is no longer valid, Mordy. We find channels that mirror our belief systems. Of course, since I don't have cable I'm watching Diane Sawyer now. Draw your own conclusions.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:47 (8 months ago) Permalink

ok, so assume question is valid. or that someone can be striving for something that no longer exists.

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think one of the only areas in which NBC wins out is in the nightly news sector. Brian Williams seems to be liked by most everyone, but he's nowhere near having the influence of Walter Kronkite.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:03 (8 months ago) Permalink

cronkite didn't have the influence of cronkite tbh

balls, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

fuxk, why do I always want to spell Cronkite with a K?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

i don't have cable so i haven't seen much other than a few clips, but going with chris hayes just because i liked his columns for the nation so much back in the day.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:06 (8 months ago) Permalink

alex wagner because HOT

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

Brian Williams is scary because he's a blank. Remember when crusty William Holden complained about TV babies? He meant Brian Williams. The guy offers no inflections, turns of phrase, or even warmth. He's a guy with varnished looks who reads briefs.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

(I'm a partisan of the late Peter Jennings partisan)

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

Williams is blank at the desk, but always funny and charming elsewhere.

I loved Peter Jennings. He was the best.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

He's great on 30 Rock though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

I agree that Alex Wagner is totally adorbs, btw. I just can't vote for her.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

haha -- scratch off that last partisan. Second glass of wine etc

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

Tamron Hall is there.

I only included people that host shows, leaving off contributors like Luke because that would go on forever and I would probably have to include people like Richard Wolffe.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

Michael Ian Black ‏@michaelianblack
Chris Hayes looks like the lovechild between Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes.

OK that's sort of funny...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

Oh OK, sorry about that Gubke...xp

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

MHP for the win - her weekend show is awesome, they get all liberal arts seminar academic instead of just arguing about the news of the day. I like Hayes' weekend show too but I haven't seen it as much since it's on so early.

Maddow is so good at television and as an anchor of MSNBC election/convention coverage. I def enjoy watching her show but it gets a little cutesy and aggravating when she spends whole segments on silly stuff - soundbites of the day blown out of proportion, that sort of thing.

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

Haven't seen any of these folks since cutting cable almost a year ago. Voted for Tamron Hall because she's ridiculously hot.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 6 September 2012 01:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

the one on the right was shtupping Matt Lauer, correct?

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 6 September 2012 01:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

Lockup: Raw

Intent to Distribute (buzza), Thursday, 6 September 2012 02:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

ok so this Chris Hayes show is pretty good.

Morbz would be pleased that Scahill has a place on cable news: http://leanforward.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/09/13759676-america-in-the-dark-about-laws-governing-the-war-on-terror?lite

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Sunday, 9 September 2012 17:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

Another Jennings fan. One of my mom's formative childhood experiences was watching Jennings run through the jungle in Vietnam trying not to get shot. Kinda hard to imagine any of the above doing that.

Theodora Celery, Sunday, 9 September 2012 18:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 14 September 2012 00:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

willie geist
but hes not real so
whoops i already voted

spazzmatazz, Friday, 14 September 2012 04:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

a toure vs a sharpton imo

the late great, Friday, 14 September 2012 04:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

Maddox hands down

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:43 (8 months ago) Permalink

(Also her book is pretty good so far)

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

Krystal Ball votes str8 trollin'

Should've thrown my vote to Alex Wagner.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

Which one of you jokers voted for Chris Matthews?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

Chris Hayes' monologue was pretty good today:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#49137523

timellison, Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

i liked ratigan

la goonies (k3vin k.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

Me too. :(

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

I also liked The Abrams Report way back when...

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

I thought they should've given Ratigan the primetime show instead of Lawrence O'Donnell (much hate for that guy).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 September 2012 00:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

I even bought Ratigan's book but it was mostly a diagram with descriptive paragraphs.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 24 September 2012 00:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

Chris Hayes' monologue was pretty good today:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#49137523

― timellison, Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:40 PM (1 hour ago)

yeah the ending slays. not sure about that suit tho

la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 September 2012 01:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

glasses too high on face also grates when he lifts chin.

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 24 September 2012 01:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

not to mention that the glasses boast the wrong frames for that face.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 02:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

basically what i meant to get at there

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 24 September 2012 02:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm reading his book and it's pretty good.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 24 September 2012 02:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

the msnbc dudes made me almost feel bad for rudy giuliani after the debate last night.. they basically brought him on to yell at and berate to take their debate frustrations out on. it was a pretty juvenile display..

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 October 2012 16:53 (7 months ago) Permalink

Chris Hayes' Homeland Security zing was great though.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 4 October 2012 16:53 (7 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/cher-married-tv-nerd

balls, Monday, 12 November 2012 23:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

lol

goole, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:30 (6 months ago) Permalink

a real dead ringer for love

crüt, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

He will speak in eighteen minutes at the Miami International Book Fair.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

I just finished his book -- a smart master's thesis.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

That's about right, yeah. Good though.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

thought that was nate silver for a second

I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 03:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

cher already loved a gay nerd

buzza, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 04:00 (6 months ago) Permalink

omg @ that cher story

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 04:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

lol @ "the 'Believe' singer"

paula boradwell (crüt), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 04:06 (6 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

so the cycle is basically morning joe with younger but equally terrible people

k3vin k., Thursday, 28 February 2013 20:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

Chris Hayes is taking over Ed Schultz's 8pm weeknight slot. Kind of bummed. I liked the 2 hour format and the long discussions it allowed.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

Better than an alarm clock on Sat and Sunday morns.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

very dope

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

Toure is so awful.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

I record Up or just watch it online. It also neatly contains my msnbc watching to two days a week. I like that they can look back on a story and discuss it rather than covering the daily bullshit. I hope it stays a panel.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

Kornacki can be okay-ish on election breakdowns sometimes, but other than that there is nothing good about The Cycle from what I've seen.

Gukbe, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

I'll miss Up, but anything that gets Ed Schultz off the air is a good thing.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

Oh I just saw he's getting a weekend evening show. Ungh.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:19 (2 months ago) Permalink

Steve Kornacki to take up over Up.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 17:18 (2 months ago) Permalink


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