even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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Ms. Ginn, left, in her rat-pelt dress, and Ms. LaViola chatting with guests before dinner.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn, for some reason i couldn't get that rat-pelt dress picture to show up. maybe a moderator can add it.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i couldn't even save that picture to my computer. the times is tricky.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/07/27/arts/design/20120727-RATS-4.html

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

she needs to come along for the ride.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Across the table Mr. Hutchings gnawed on a rat bone, pronouncing it delicious. The dinner delivered on its once-in-a-lifetime promise. “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

For Ms. Ginn skinning and eating rats represents the survivalist instincts she likes to explore in her work. “To have these sorts of skills, it’s very empowering,” she said. “It makes me feel like I have more control over my world.”

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cheryl
Westchester Cty

It reminds me a bit of the Woman Warrior ( Maxine Kingston) description of the narrator's mother as a Great Eater, one who could literally and figuratively eat any dish set before her without the slightest expression of fear or disgust. But in a setting of extreme comfort, and the best condiments and disguises for the purchased rats, it doesn't seem to signify anything. Now, if all the rats had been "wild raised" in NYC and caught by the participants, that would be a better story... Or perhaps if different rats had been trapped in different restaurants, again, we could compare the effects of different restaurant fare on their taste.... Overall, ick.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

jg
San Francisco

How is this any different from the sensationalism of TV Shows like Fear Factor. Rats are disgusting and only eaten in the worst of times. They are in fact disease ridden and thoroughly disgusting. Why does this generation insist on destroying paradigms or structures without any sensible or tangible replacements. Did they learn nothing from the Baby Boomers and the "Me" generation? I hate everything about this from it's pettiness to its barbarism to the sensationalistic and cynical nature of it. Rich people eating rats. Rich indeed.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

comments get really real:

Sami
Long Beach, CA

This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

something about eating rats that really pisses people off.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I feel like the cycle of trolling and being trolled has just become a ritual for the Times style sections, like the commenters are just this chorus of people who "come to boo"

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean that's what we are, basically

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

ya they know what theyre doin

lag∞n, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sami
Long Beach, CA

This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."

― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:07 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ rad

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

that sounds like trolling

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know, do you think that psychiatrists think their case studies are interesting as human beings, or just... interesting...?

j., Friday, 27 July 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this wasn't the artist, this was one of the guests

this seems totally fine to me tbh

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i hope that they get the plague and die.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/automobiles/autoreviews/you-cant-beat-it-with-a-stick.html

Priced from $26,795, this is the ILX that screams “compromise” at the top of its little 2-liter lungs, with standard cloth seats and just 150 breathless horses from a version of the Civic engine.

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 July 2012 06:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

the ILX seems limited to fans of zing-it-yourself compacts at a relatively high price.

undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

too much time on nyt

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey, in the interest of fair play, i read that article about the girl tavi who had the fashion blog and now has the rookie site and she seems cool and her site looks great and smart.

don't want to hate every young person in the new york times. makes me feel bad.

"in the spirit of sassy magazine" is always a good move. plus, john waters loves her and that's good enough for me.

wish more websites looked like the rookie site for real! so easy to read and navigate and pleasant to look at.

http://rookiemag.com/

scott seward, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

ya tavi is awesome

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yep rookie is great and i wish i was as cool and smart at 28 as tavi is at 15/16

Roz, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

nothing to hate about tavi.

wmlynch, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rookie is great and I wish it was there to read when I was 12+ years old. So much better than so many teen girl mags.

Crabbits, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

LONG ILX THREADS HATE THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK:

1. Click on the Permalink of the message right after the cutoff.

2. The URL will now contain something like "bookmarkedmessageid=3669956"

3. Change that number to something smaller and you will be jumped back to an earlier point in the thread without loading the whole thing.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, July 27, 2012 12:52 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

I feel dumb for not having thought of doing this myself!

Je55e, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i tried it on the long orig breaking bad thread & it didnt seem 2 work

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Which part didn't work? The only maybe tricky part is that if you don't make that number small enough, you won't get any older messages. And if you make that number too small you'll be at the first messages. Usually lowering it by thousands or ten-thousands is enough.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i have tried it and it worked

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

What I do with a long thread is open it at my bookmarked spot and then hit permalink on the first post while the rest is loading.

Moodles, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

fyi you can also click on the permalink for the last post before the fold and then just click “view previous page"

1staethyr, Friday, 3 August 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i enjoy that scott is all 'that tavi girl'

thomp, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, August 3, 2012 4:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was looking for a thread on like manchildren or something to post this on but i guess this is close enough because lol nytimes not so much these guys are the ruling class

buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Shyaporn Theerakulstit, actor and audiobook narrator"

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 August 2012 12:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/fashion/montauk-feels-the-effects-of-too-many-hipsters.html

In the meantime, longtime residents are left to harken back to that first crowd that had to endure an invasion of newcomers, the Montauket tribe. As Mr. Devlin’s wife, Eileen, joked on Friday as the restaurant prepared for another busy night, “Now I know how the Indians felt.”

Nope. No you don't.

Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

it notes clearly that she was joking

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

yah what gives

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another showed a rifle and the words “Defend Montauk.”

printing hipster shirts against hipsters u might be a hipster

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

also isnt the fedora more of a broish affectation

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/nyregion/four-men-sharing-rent-and-friendship-for-18-years.html

men. living together.

― goole, Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:57 PM

this was hilarious! The comments, though, are mostly horrifying.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

quiddities thread has made me insensitive to the real articles, i want all the stupid setup cut so i can get right to the aughs

j., Sunday, 5 August 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

so by hipster they just mean young money?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

well

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol <3

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

you can't get a 2BR apartment in Gowanus for 750K? holy guacamole

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

maybe the faucets SHIT GOLD

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

you'll be lucky if they don't shit rust tbh

“audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

actual shit maybe still a possibility. i would def check that on the tour. i mean, $750,000 is a lot of money.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

if you're spending 800K for a Gowanus 2BR in a new apartment complex the faucets should dispense delicious strawberry milkshakes at the very least

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 10:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Reaching higher by several stories than its neighbors, 548 4th has made
a wonderful bedfellow of that glorious, brilliant ball in the sky. A calm
dawn will accentuate breathtaking panoramas of the Brooklyn and
Manhattan skylines reflected of the surface of the East River and
Brooklyn Harbor. One struggles to adequately describe the sunsets with
just words in a gorgeous living environment where polarized shades are
a must. Roomy layouts and over­sized windows allow views of all this
outdoor splendor, from just over the rim of your coffee cup. Closets
abound to hide all your pers

https://ipg.nyc/property/print_details/160135

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 12:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

http://brooklyn.backpage.com/ApartmentsForRent/2br-affordable-carroll-gardensgowanus/57247619

Must prove 90k/yr with tax docs. Roommates must have one guarantor who makes 180k/yr or more.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 12:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

But what is the rent?

Jeff, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 12:35 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

❤️‍AFFORDABLE❤️‍

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 12:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

everything's affordable if you're rich enough

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 13:04 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"that glorious, brilliant ball in the sky" = i am sympathetic to people needing to write copy to fill but come on here

“audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 15:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

$800k for an apartment with a dedicated strawberry milkshake line already installed seems like a good deal. Sure, you'll save money if you buy a house without a milkshake line and install it yourself but not everybody has time for that.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 15:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I just watched a Property Brothers where they were renovating an old home to redo the kitchen to get rid of the outdated granite counter tops and stainless steel appliances and install marble counters and a solid gold stove, and they added a milkshake line while they were at it, but discovered that the wiring for the robot butler had to be completely redone. They had to sacrifice upgrading the servants quarters from a hole in the floor to a flush toilet to make room in the budget. It was a nightmare.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 15:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

that glorious, brilliant ball in the sky

the fuck is this bonefish grill ad nonsense

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 16:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

for 750k, you get your glorious brilliant balls in the sky

“audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 16:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

delicious strawberry milkshakes reconstituted from GowCanal 'water'

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 16:50 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I knew a girl who actually had a milk faucet in her kitchen. She was from Wisconsin obviously.

joygoat, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

“There’s kind of a limitless amount of things I want to do, and when the path seems to open, that’s when I try to do a thing,” Mr. Murphy said, sipping a flat white at Sweatshop

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/dining/for-james-murphy-of-lcd-soundsystem-a-brooklyn-wine-bar-is-a-switch-in-tempo.html?_r=1

mick signals, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 19:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

daft plonk is playing at my bar

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 19:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"his meaty frame and stubbled mug"

The Stubbled Mug would have been the perfect name for his place.

scott seward, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 19:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

oh man middle-aged content producers opening restaurants/bars is such a bugbear of mine

no (Lamp), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 21:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The cleft in James Murphy's upper lip seems misplaced. Too far to the right. Or maybe it's the whole lower part of his face.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 21:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Also, ... a cafe and design studio..." called Sweatshop. What's next, a B&B called Slave Quarters?

nickn, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 21:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

James Murphy's face is a face you could slap forever and still not have slapped enough.

See the Belz up in the sky, somebody cancelled SVU (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:36 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

He bounces back and forth between unbearable and People Who've Figured Out How To Live.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 14 May 2015 18:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

hes not that old so the mileage must be atrocious

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 May 2015 19:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

for a while he said he was so accustomed to eating “like a 14th-century noble” that he acquired gout — “far and away the most painful thing I’ve ever had.”

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

lcd undergout

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:56 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

goutsystem i mean

he's 45!

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:56 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

YOUNG VERY YOUNG

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 15 May 2015 01:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

pplains, Sunday, 24 May 2015 19:35 (5 days ago) Permalink

New York Times Specifics on Plans To Fight ISWYDT

pplains, Sunday, 24 May 2015 19:36 (5 days ago) Permalink

quality reporting there

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

i will never forget where i was the moment i learned that thongs had fallen out of fashion

gr8080, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:38 (Yesterday) Permalink

RIP whale tails

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:43 (Yesterday) Permalink

Besides sales, the “feminist underwear” has inspired countless Instagram “belfies” (that’s a selfie for the behind) from Me and You customers eager to show off their feminist convictions as well as their pert posteriors.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:44 (Yesterday) Permalink

I just had a stroke.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:45 (Yesterday) Permalink

“Most lingerie is designed to appeal to a man,” Ms. Baylis said. “For us, that’s not even a consideration. This is underwear you wear totally for you. Maybe no one will see it, or maybe you’ll put it up on Instagram to share with everyone you know.”

. . .

“I think there’s a widespread misconception that men are into pearl thong, lace contraptions,” said Ms. Javitch of Ten Undies. “To be honest, men are into girls in T-shirts and white underwear.”

It's not about what's sexy to men (it is totally about what is sexy to men).

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:48 (Yesterday) Permalink

haha

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

girl i dont care what you wrap your posterior with, just as long as its pert

gr8080, Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:55 (Yesterday) Permalink

Also here are the totally not designed to be sexy for men white underpants that are supposed to be some kind of revolutionary cut: https://hello-beautiful-usa.com/product/hello-beautiful-panty/

FYI you wouldn't be able to walk five steps in those without them ending up crammed into your buttcrack, speaking of thongs.

Also, guess what, you can currently and have been able to buy briefs at any department store, big box discount store, or on-line retailer since thongs came on the scene in packs of five for what these people are charging for one pair. Also also if not appealing to men is really what we're talking about here, how about offering your wares in sizes above a large, or using models who fall outside the confines what is generally considered to be attractive to straight men?

God. I didn't want to think this hard about underpants today. THANKS.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 28 May 2015 16:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

http://www.jockey.com/catalog/product/elance-supersoft-brief-3-pack

Highly recommended. You can write "FEMINIST" on the ass with a sharpie.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 28 May 2015 17:00 (Yesterday) Permalink

A young generation of women is discovering a new brand of sexy in the most unlikely of places: their grandmothers’ underwear drawers.

somebody thought this was a good lede

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2015 17:40 (Yesterday) Permalink

also buying white shirts and writing stuff on them with sharpies is drastically underdone, i need to get back in that habit.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2015 17:41 (Yesterday) Permalink

young women finally find a new brand of sexy in their undies, it was there all along@!

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 May 2015 17:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

a brand new of sexy

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 May 2015 19:49 (Yesterday) Permalink

Anytime I'm having a bad month, I just need to revisit this thread for laughs

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:04 (Yesterday) Permalink


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