even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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Ms. Ginn, left, in her rat-pelt dress, and Ms. LaViola chatting with guests before dinner.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn, for some reason i couldn't get that rat-pelt dress picture to show up. maybe a moderator can add it.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i couldn't even save that picture to my computer. the times is tricky.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/07/27/arts/design/20120727-RATS-4.html

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

she needs to come along for the ride.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Across the table Mr. Hutchings gnawed on a rat bone, pronouncing it delicious. The dinner delivered on its once-in-a-lifetime promise. “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

For Ms. Ginn skinning and eating rats represents the survivalist instincts she likes to explore in her work. “To have these sorts of skills, it’s very empowering,” she said. “It makes me feel like I have more control over my world.”

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cheryl
Westchester Cty

It reminds me a bit of the Woman Warrior ( Maxine Kingston) description of the narrator's mother as a Great Eater, one who could literally and figuratively eat any dish set before her without the slightest expression of fear or disgust. But in a setting of extreme comfort, and the best condiments and disguises for the purchased rats, it doesn't seem to signify anything. Now, if all the rats had been "wild raised" in NYC and caught by the participants, that would be a better story... Or perhaps if different rats had been trapped in different restaurants, again, we could compare the effects of different restaurant fare on their taste.... Overall, ick.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

jg
San Francisco

How is this any different from the sensationalism of TV Shows like Fear Factor. Rats are disgusting and only eaten in the worst of times. They are in fact disease ridden and thoroughly disgusting. Why does this generation insist on destroying paradigms or structures without any sensible or tangible replacements. Did they learn nothing from the Baby Boomers and the "Me" generation? I hate everything about this from it's pettiness to its barbarism to the sensationalistic and cynical nature of it. Rich people eating rats. Rich indeed.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

comments get really real:

Sami
Long Beach, CA

This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

something about eating rats that really pisses people off.

scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I feel like the cycle of trolling and being trolled has just become a ritual for the Times style sections, like the commenters are just this chorus of people who "come to boo"

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean that's what we are, basically

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

ya they know what theyre doin

lag∞n, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sami
Long Beach, CA

This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."

― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:07 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ rad

, Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

that sounds like trolling

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know, do you think that psychiatrists think their case studies are interesting as human beings, or just... interesting...?

j., Friday, 27 July 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”

― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this wasn't the artist, this was one of the guests

this seems totally fine to me tbh

thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i hope that they get the plague and die.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/automobiles/autoreviews/you-cant-beat-it-with-a-stick.html

Priced from $26,795, this is the ILX that screams “compromise” at the top of its little 2-liter lungs, with standard cloth seats and just 150 breathless horses from a version of the Civic engine.

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 July 2012 06:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

the ILX seems limited to fans of zing-it-yourself compacts at a relatively high price.

undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

too much time on nyt

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey, in the interest of fair play, i read that article about the girl tavi who had the fashion blog and now has the rookie site and she seems cool and her site looks great and smart.

don't want to hate every young person in the new york times. makes me feel bad.

"in the spirit of sassy magazine" is always a good move. plus, john waters loves her and that's good enough for me.

wish more websites looked like the rookie site for real! so easy to read and navigate and pleasant to look at.

http://rookiemag.com/

scott seward, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

ya tavi is awesome

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yep rookie is great and i wish i was as cool and smart at 28 as tavi is at 15/16

Roz, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

nothing to hate about tavi.

wmlynch, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rookie is great and I wish it was there to read when I was 12+ years old. So much better than so many teen girl mags.

Crabbits, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

LONG ILX THREADS HATE THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK:

1. Click on the Permalink of the message right after the cutoff.

2. The URL will now contain something like "bookmarkedmessageid=3669956"

3. Change that number to something smaller and you will be jumped back to an earlier point in the thread without loading the whole thing.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, July 27, 2012 12:52 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

I feel dumb for not having thought of doing this myself!

Je55e, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i tried it on the long orig breaking bad thread & it didnt seem 2 work

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Which part didn't work? The only maybe tricky part is that if you don't make that number small enough, you won't get any older messages. And if you make that number too small you'll be at the first messages. Usually lowering it by thousands or ten-thousands is enough.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i have tried it and it worked

lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

What I do with a long thread is open it at my bookmarked spot and then hit permalink on the first post while the rest is loading.

Moodles, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

fyi you can also click on the permalink for the last post before the fold and then just click “view previous page"

1staethyr, Friday, 3 August 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i enjoy that scott is all 'that tavi girl'

thomp, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, August 3, 2012 4:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was looking for a thread on like manchildren or something to post this on but i guess this is close enough because lol nytimes not so much these guys are the ruling class

buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Shyaporn Theerakulstit, actor and audiobook narrator"

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 August 2012 12:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/fashion/montauk-feels-the-effects-of-too-many-hipsters.html

In the meantime, longtime residents are left to harken back to that first crowd that had to endure an invasion of newcomers, the Montauket tribe. As Mr. Devlin’s wife, Eileen, joked on Friday as the restaurant prepared for another busy night, “Now I know how the Indians felt.”

Nope. No you don't.

Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

it notes clearly that she was joking

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

yah what gives

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another showed a rifle and the words “Defend Montauk.”

printing hipster shirts against hipsters u might be a hipster

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

also isnt the fedora more of a broish affectation

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/nyregion/four-men-sharing-rent-and-friendship-for-18-years.html

men. living together.

― goole, Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:57 PM

this was hilarious! The comments, though, are mostly horrifying.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

quiddities thread has made me insensitive to the real articles, i want all the stupid setup cut so i can get right to the aughs

j., Sunday, 5 August 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

so by hipster they just mean young money?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

well

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay, three more pictures and i swear that's it. actual 1950's mad men advertising art that my mother did:

scott seward, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:01 (1 month ago) Permalink

A STRIKE FOR SPRIGGS

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 September 2014 20:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

I love that post, Ryan.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 12:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/trend-piece

Je55e, Friday, 19 September 2014 03:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

kudos

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 September 2014 05:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

they should do this for everything.

bamcquern, Friday, 19 September 2014 08:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

xp two more examples from language log:
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=14744

bamcquern, Sunday, 21 September 2014 22:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

are home renovations writers becoming blogger burnouts? the answer may surprise you! or you may not give a fuck!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/garden/when-blogging-becomes-a-slog.html

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 September 2014 17:26 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

haha was reading that while waiting for my bodega pancakes this morning and thinking "if i had brought my phone, i'd be linking this on quid/ag, but if i'd brought my phone, i probably would not have bought the paper to pass the time waiting for my pancakes"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:03 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Can't lie. I am a big fan of Young House Love. The whole endeavor should be something that fills me with irritation but they are just so charming I can't help but like them. I sincerely wish them the absolute best.

carl agatha, Thursday, 25 September 2014 21:05 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Guilty here too--although I haven't read their blog in a long time, I remember their wedding and their first house reno and all their wonderful tricks and ideas. I really should hate them, but I don't.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 25 September 2014 22:14 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

I even bought their book and will probably buy the next one.

carl agatha, Thursday, 25 September 2014 23:27 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i don't even think i'm going to click on that, the url is perfect

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

That is impressive I'm actually rooting for his daughter to cut off his head and pour hollandaise down his throat

chemical aioli (Hunt3r), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:37 (1 week ago) Permalink

If it's meant to be funny obnoxious it's not bad tho

chemical aioli (Hunt3r), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:39 (1 week ago) Permalink

And there was the hedonistic all-day affair in Dubai, where I topped off courses of Japanese, Chinese and Lebanese food with a full English roast beef dinner, all consumed while hovering above the desert in an air-conditioned five-star hotel restaurant and guzzling a jeroboam of Veuve Clicquot.

I know right?

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 11 October 2014 14:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

we've all been there

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

left my jeroboam in my jet brb

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 11 October 2014 17:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

I'm trying to picture this hovering brunch restaurant I don't understand

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Sunday, 12 October 2014 14:16 (1 week ago) Permalink

i think he means it wasn't on the ground floor?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 October 2014 15:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

yeah I think so too, it's just a silly, inflated word to use for merely not being on the ground.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Sunday, 12 October 2014 15:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

nope p sure it's a brunch spaceship

i mean it's in dubai, what else could it be

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 October 2014 15:28 (1 week ago) Permalink

it's just standard issue annoying nyt style writing -- same with "guzzling a jeroboam of Veuve Cliquot" -- cramming *distinguished* words into a small space where they don't actually make the description more precise, just more haughty.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Sunday, 12 October 2014 15:28 (1 week ago) Permalink

All I could visualise after 'hovering above the desert' was this:

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 13 October 2014 15:07 (1 week ago) Permalink

OTM

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

xp unless he means he was literally guzzling the jeroboam, which I guess is possible

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

picturing the author of that piece as jabba the hut changes the context a bit.
possibly wise to do that for all nyt opeds

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

oh man can we get like a meme-generator where you plug in NYT text and it renders it as subtitles over animated Jabba gifs?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 October 2014 16:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

i think i will be a West Village bruncher for Hallowe'en

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:50 (1 week ago) Permalink

my gut reaction to that brunch article is "sorry you've been living there for 20 years, but move the fuck out of new york if you don't like new york, what the fuck do you expect"

example (crüt), Monday, 13 October 2014 16:53 (1 week ago) Permalink

good opinion

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 13 October 2014 18:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

He decorated his bedroom lavishly, prominently hanging an image of himself on one wall. Some of the furniture was custom made; some is antique. “I felt I had never been content with my surroundings,” he said. Now, he absolutely is.

“Home decorating turned into one of my projects,” he said. “It’s a luxurious pop-art environment that reflects my taste and is a true representation of me.”

pretty sure his shirt also features an image of himself

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:04 (1 week ago) Permalink

Did he win that ceramic cheetah from Wheel of Fortune?

carl agatha, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

imagine going home with a guy and he has a painted portrait of himself over his bed

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:42 (1 week ago) Permalink

On the Lower East Side, a renovated two-bedroom in a building with a roof deck and a gym was almost $4,000. “It was pristine,” Mr. Papier said, but small in every way. “The staircases were tiny, the closets were tiny, you open the door to the bedroom and immediately walk into the bed.”

And it was on the top floor of a six-story walk-up. “That is a lot of money to have something that is an inconvenience to you,” said Mr. Papier, who travels often, lugging suitcases. “If it is a dream apartment, you can suck it up,” but this was not.

I know right

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 16 October 2014 23:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 17 October 2014 00:06 (6 days ago) Permalink

;-;

ian, Friday, 17 October 2014 00:20 (6 days ago) Permalink

lol

Doctor Casino, Friday, 17 October 2014 01:42 (6 days ago) Permalink

more plz

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 October 2014 01:56 (6 days ago) Permalink

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 17 October 2014 02:54 (6 days ago) Permalink

wow

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:35 (6 days ago) Permalink

hahaha

imagine going home with a guy and he has a painted portrait of himself over his bed

Only glossy headshots so far.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:53 (6 days ago) Permalink

"sorry you've been living there for 20 years, but move the fuck out of new york if you don't like new york"

equally applicable to nonbrunchers like me :(

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:54 (6 days ago) Permalink

how has the onion not done a jabba nyt oped piece

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:12 (6 days ago) Permalink


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