Ms. Ginn, left, in her rat-pelt dress, and Ms. LaViola chatting with guests before dinner.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:32 (10 months ago) Permalink
damn, for some reason i couldn't get that rat-pelt dress picture to show up. maybe a moderator can add it.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:33 (10 months ago) Permalink
i couldn't even save that picture to my computer. the times is tricky.
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/07/27/arts/design/20120727-RATS-4.html
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:38 (10 months ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:39 (10 months ago) Permalink
she needs to come along for the ride.
Across the table Mr. Hutchings gnawed on a rat bone, pronouncing it delicious. The dinner delivered on its once-in-a-lifetime promise. “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”
For Ms. Ginn skinning and eating rats represents the survivalist instincts she likes to explore in her work. “To have these sorts of skills, it’s very empowering,” she said. “It makes me feel like I have more control over my world.”
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
Cheryl Westchester Cty
It reminds me a bit of the Woman Warrior ( Maxine Kingston) description of the narrator's mother as a Great Eater, one who could literally and figuratively eat any dish set before her without the slightest expression of fear or disgust. But in a setting of extreme comfort, and the best condiments and disguises for the purchased rats, it doesn't seem to signify anything. Now, if all the rats had been "wild raised" in NYC and caught by the participants, that would be a better story... Or perhaps if different rats had been trapped in different restaurants, again, we could compare the effects of different restaurant fare on their taste.... Overall, ick.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
jg San Francisco
How is this any different from the sensationalism of TV Shows like Fear Factor. Rats are disgusting and only eaten in the worst of times. They are in fact disease ridden and thoroughly disgusting. Why does this generation insist on destroying paradigms or structures without any sensible or tangible replacements. Did they learn nothing from the Baby Boomers and the "Me" generation? I hate everything about this from it's pettiness to its barbarism to the sensationalistic and cynical nature of it. Rich people eating rats. Rich indeed.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
comments get really real:
Sami Long Beach, CA
This can be seen as the expected result of the gentrification of New York that has been occurring for the past 20 years or so. Rats, formerly associated with urban squalor, became reified as a kind of aesthetic signifier of "authentic" New York-ness by the post-collegiate hordes of mostly white middle class young people who flocked to places like Williamsburg in the late 90s and early 2000s. These people were ravenous for real urban life, and embraced the rat as a component of a lifestyle they sought - even as their (the gentrifiers) increasing presence destroyed that same reality by displacing working class residents and communities that had been associated with the presence of rats during the Reagan era of urban decline. This event combines the role that art plays in the gentrification process with the gentrifiers obsession with "local" food culture in an ironic glorification of their (Pyrrhic) conquest of the "urban."
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:07 (10 months ago) Permalink
something about eating rats that really pisses people off.
sorry, link: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/arts/design/dinner-at-an-exhibition-rat-prepared-many-ways.html?ref=dining
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:10 (10 months ago) Permalink
Sometimes I feel like the cycle of trolling and being trolled has just become a ritual for the Times style sections, like the commenters are just this chorus of people who "come to boo"
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
I mean that's what we are, basically
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
ya they know what theyre doin
― lag∞n, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
SamiLong Beach, CA
― scott seward, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:07 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ rad
― , Blogger (schlump), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:51 (10 months ago) Permalink
I think we can't totally discount the possibility that this artist is trolling us too, like basically going for what that commenter is describing? I mean “I don’t care about it as art,” he said. “I care about it as something that makes me a more interesting human being.”
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (10 months ago) Permalink
that sounds like trolling
i don't know, do you think that psychiatrists think their case studies are interesting as human beings, or just... interesting...?
― j., Friday, 27 July 2012 17:21 (10 months ago) Permalink
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:53 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this wasn't the artist, this was one of the guests
this seems totally fine to me tbh
― thomp, Friday, 27 July 2012 17:26 (10 months ago) Permalink
i hope that they get the plague and die.
― KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:33 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/automobiles/autoreviews/you-cant-beat-it-with-a-stick.html
Priced from $26,795, this is the ILX that screams “compromise” at the top of its little 2-liter lungs, with standard cloth seats and just 150 breathless horses from a version of the Civic engine.
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 July 2012 06:53 (10 months ago) Permalink
the ILX seems limited to fans of zing-it-yourself compacts at a relatively high price.
― undermikey: bidness (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:01 (10 months ago) Permalink
too much time on nyt
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:11 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://storify.com/jcstearns/lessons-from-the-fake-new-york-times-wikileaks-op
― lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:43 (10 months ago) Permalink
hey, in the interest of fair play, i read that article about the girl tavi who had the fashion blog and now has the rookie site and she seems cool and her site looks great and smart.
don't want to hate every young person in the new york times. makes me feel bad.
"in the spirit of sassy magazine" is always a good move. plus, john waters loves her and that's good enough for me.
wish more websites looked like the rookie site for real! so easy to read and navigate and pleasant to look at.
http://rookiemag.com/
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:27 (10 months ago) Permalink
ya tavi is awesome
― lag∞n, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:38 (10 months ago) Permalink
yep rookie is great and i wish i was as cool and smart at 28 as tavi is at 15/16
― Roz, Sunday, 29 July 2012 16:55 (10 months ago) Permalink
nothing to hate about tavi.
― wmlynch, Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:25 (10 months ago) Permalink
Rookie is great and I wish it was there to read when I was 12+ years old. So much better than so many teen girl mags.
― Crabbits, Sunday, 29 July 2012 19:54 (10 months ago) Permalink
LONG ILX THREADS HATE THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK:
1. Click on the Permalink of the message right after the cutoff.
2. The URL will now contain something like "bookmarkedmessageid=3669956"
3. Change that number to something smaller and you will be jumped back to an earlier point in the thread without loading the whole thing.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, July 27, 2012 12:52 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark
I feel dumb for not having thought of doing this myself!
― Je55e, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:07 (10 months ago) Permalink
i tried it on the long orig breaking bad thread & it didnt seem 2 work
― johnny crunch, Friday, 3 August 2012 12:18 (10 months ago) Permalink
Which part didn't work? The only maybe tricky part is that if you don't make that number small enough, you won't get any older messages. And if you make that number too small you'll be at the first messages. Usually lowering it by thousands or ten-thousands is enough.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 18:45 (10 months ago) Permalink
i have tried it and it worked
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:46 (10 months ago) Permalink
What I do with a long thread is open it at my bookmarked spot and then hit permalink on the first post while the rest is loading.
― Moodles, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:51 (10 months ago) Permalink
fyi you can also click on the permalink for the last post before the fold and then just click “view previous page"
― 1staethyr, Friday, 3 August 2012 20:40 (10 months ago) Permalink
View Previous Page has only ever worked sporadically for me.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:46 (10 months ago) Permalink
i enjoy that scott is all 'that tavi girl'
― thomp, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:24 (10 months ago) Permalink
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, August 3, 2012 4:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Saturday, 4 August 2012 13:35 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/nyregion/four-men-sharing-rent-and-friendship-for-18-years.html
men. living together.
― goole, Saturday, 4 August 2012 17:57 (10 months ago) Permalink
i was looking for a thread on like manchildren or something to post this on but i guess this is close enough because lol nytimes not so much these guys are the ruling class
― buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 18:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
"Shyaporn Theerakulstit, actor and audiobook narrator"
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 August 2012 12:46 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/fashion/montauk-feels-the-effects-of-too-many-hipsters.html
In the meantime, longtime residents are left to harken back to that first crowd that had to endure an invasion of newcomers, the Montauket tribe. As Mr. Devlin’s wife, Eileen, joked on Friday as the restaurant prepared for another busy night, “Now I know how the Indians felt.”
Nope. No you don't.
― Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
it notes clearly that she was joking
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:16 (10 months ago) Permalink
yah what gives
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:17 (10 months ago) Permalink
Another showed a rifle and the words “Defend Montauk.”
printing hipster shirts against hipsters u might be a hipster
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:21 (10 months ago) Permalink
also isnt the fedora more of a broish affectation
― goole, Saturday, August 4, 2012 1:57 PM
this was hilarious! The comments, though, are mostly horrifying.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:57 (10 months ago) Permalink
quiddities thread has made me insensitive to the real articles, i want all the stupid setup cut so i can get right to the aughs
― j., Sunday, 5 August 2012 15:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
so by hipster they just mean young money?
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 August 2012 16:09 (10 months ago) Permalink
well
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:47 (10 months ago) Permalink
his wife seemed kinda appalled by him tooalso he described his home as vernacular?! the bug cabinet is repulsivei like the mirrored swinging shelf thing but it's totally opulent rich people thing -- it was in a palace!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:09 (5 days ago) Permalink
i like the bug cabinet :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:17 (5 days ago) Permalink
i think i might like it in a museum more than my home
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:26 (5 days ago) Permalink
bug cabinets are so 2008.
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:34 (5 days ago) Permalink
Next Beastie Boys record needs to feature a couplet ending with "rhyme spectacular/style is vernacular"
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:41 (5 days ago) Permalink
whoa she directed Billy Madison, CB4 and Half Baked
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:43 (5 days ago) Permalink
Tamra Davis, onetime director of CB4, is now above shopping at CB2.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:44 (5 days ago) Permalink
do you think they are auditioning the members of fun lovin' criminals for the vacant beastie slot?
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:46 (5 days ago) Permalink
a vision of a long hallway with members of house of pain, fun lovin' criminals, crazytown, young black teenagers waiting to audition...
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:50 (5 days ago) Permalink
I see a reality show coming out of this
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:50 (5 days ago) Permalink
i've seen ad rock perform live on bass a lot lately
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:55 (5 days ago) Permalink
I look at some of these chairs and think, "who would sit on you" /i work in a bank
― more tequila-fueled pants-shitting revue from (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:57 (5 days ago) Permalink
Mike D is the one whose dad was an art dealer though, right? So I guess this isn't that shocking.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:00 (5 days ago) Permalink
waiting to hear who made the final three on I Wanna Be A Beastie!
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:01 (5 days ago) Permalink
Tamra Davis did the awesome grunge-kids-making-out video for Sonic Youth...for um, Teenage Riot? yes?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:21 (5 days ago) Permalink
omg you're right she didlist of her music videos
Depeche Mode - "But Not Tonight" (1986)54-40 - "Baby Ran" (1986)Faith No More - "Anne's Song" (1988)The Bangles - "In Your Room" (1998)Tone Lōc - "Wild Thing" (1988)Indigo Girls - "Closer to Fine" (1989)Beastie Boys - "Netty's Girl" (1989)The D.O.C. - "It's Funky Enough" (1989)[4]The D.O.C. - "The D.O.C. & The Doctor" (1989)MC Lyte - "Cha Cha Cha" (1989)Young MC - "Bust a Move" (1989)Young MC - "Principal's Office" (1989)Bette Midler - "From a Distance" (1990)Sonic Youth - "Kool Thing" (1990)Sonic Youth - "Dirty Boots" (1991)Sonic Youth - "100%" (with Spike Jonze) (1992)Luscious Jackson - "Daughter of the Chaos" (1993)Cher (with Beavis & Butt-Head) - "I Got You, Babe" (1993)The Lemonheads - "It's About Time" (1993)The Lemonheads - "Big Gay Heart" (1994)Sonic Youth - "Bull in the Heather" (1994)Luscious Jackson - "City Song" (1994)Veruca Salt - "All Hail Me" (1995)Hanson - "MMMBop" (1997)Hanson - "Where's the Love" (1997)Tatyana Ali - "Boy, You Knock Me Out" (1998)Luscious Jackson - "Ladyfingers" (1999)
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:55 (5 days ago) Permalink
only it was dirty boots you're thinking of?
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:56 (5 days ago) Permalink
Beastie Boys - "Netty's Girl" (1989)
sometimes this is my favorite Beastie Boys video
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:03 (5 days ago) Permalink
she directed the video for "wild thing"! she directed GUNCRAZY.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:04 (5 days ago) Permalink
yes yes Dirty Boots, thank u LL!! my brain was confused
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 June 2013 22:05 (5 days ago) Permalink
I look at some of these chairs and think, "who would sit on you"
+1. i can't stand impractical chairs, all conspicuous and incongruous, esp when they don't even have anything in front of them and are backed against a wall. people who plonk them in a space are like people who have to fill silence with empty talk.
also, that rajasthani swing is ridic
― al leong dudes (qiqing), Friday, 14 June 2013 03:49 (4 days ago) Permalink
'here's where we stash the xmas tree 11 months out of the year' 'this is were we cram the kids uncool backpacks and the extra wheel-y suitcase we never use'
heh, my storage closet has an xmas tree, an uncool backpack, and a wheely suitcase.
― dunham checks in (get bent), Friday, 14 June 2013 04:27 (4 days ago) Permalink
Perhaps no article has more literally fit the title of this thread (other than the NYTimes part):
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-saudi-prince-forbes-20130607,0,2292701.story
A Saudi Arabian billionaire prince has sued Forbes magazine in London, accusing the publication of underestimating his wealth in its highly scrutinized annual list of the world's richest people.
Prince Alwaleed bin Talal claims the magazine was "deliberately biased" when ranking him at a lowly 26th place in its 2013 tally of the super wealthy, according to court documents cited by the United Kingdom's Guardian newspaper.
The magazine pegged his net worth at $20 billion. The prince claims it is closer to $30 billion. The difference? About $9.6 billion, the Guardian reported.
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 June 2013 15:35 (4 days ago) Permalink
its hard out here for a prince.
― scott seward, Friday, 14 June 2013 15:45 (4 days ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/01/nyregion/in-brooklyn-bill-lees-music-is-his-neighbors-headache
i'm sure EVERYONE will agree with me and there will be no ensuing conversation at all but i'm on the neighbor's side with this. being famous, having lived there a long time and claiming you have a "jazz house" is no excuse for being a shitty neighbor.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:51 (3 days ago) Permalink
i was a shitty neighbor once years ago and i still feel really bad about it.
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 June 2013 16:58 (3 days ago) Permalink
They took that page down or the link is broken or something, but I read that last week.
Torn, tbh. On one hand, I hate jazz. On the other hand, if people keep homogenizing everywhere they go, it'll be pretty boring.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:30 (3 days ago) Permalink
you hate jazz?
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:41 (3 days ago) Permalink
You know I don't really like music that doesn't get to the point in a not-very-long straight line.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:48 (3 days ago) Permalink
asking that people play music quietly enough that it doesn't bother the neighbors isn't homogenizing a building, it's common courtesy. I don't care if you're ornette coleman; rent a practice space like everyone does.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:49 (3 days ago) Permalink
if i had the address of the woman who lived below me in philly years ago i would send a sorry card today. she was really nice. so embarrassed...
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:50 (3 days ago) Permalink
my brother in law lives in a very cloistered McMansion suburb outside Sac. He ended up building a soundproof practice room in their front room, because the first time the band even tried to practice the neighbor called the cops. In the middle of the afternoon!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 June 2013 17:54 (3 days ago) Permalink
I hate jazz too.
― Je55e, Saturday, 15 June 2013 18:04 (3 days ago) Permalink
I had to call the cops for a noise complaint a few times (in high school my neighbors would leave for months at a time, leaving their 30-year old burnout son alone, he'd turn the bass up high enough at 2am that I could hear the vibration through my pillow). I hated to do it, but talking to him never did shit.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:11 (3 days ago) Permalink
Is this really citing the Guardian for what 30-20=?
― Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 15 June 2013 21:23 (3 days ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/13/fashion/manly-manicures-end-in-color.html
― http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:52 (Yesterday) Permalink
ANY dude i know who rocked that look would get laughed at
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:56 (Yesterday) Permalink
― Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol otm
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:58 (Yesterday) Permalink
i mean if you're signifying genderbending, cool but if this is a new metrosexual perk i am saying NO ONE in my circle would dream of doing this as a primping thing
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:58 (Yesterday) Permalink
even more quiddities and agonies of forks' circle
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:00 (Yesterday) Permalink
"more and more men are doing x" = "more and more advertising dollars are coming to us from company that makes x" probably
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:01 (Yesterday) Permalink
otm i used to have to read a lot of corporate news for work and there would be a new "more men are wearing makeup!" trend article every month
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:03 (Yesterday) Permalink
my circle may not be especially q or a but it's a broad range of types and professions.i know lots of men who wear makeup and some who paint their nails but all of them are doing it because they like to crossdress not because it's the new fashion.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:05 (Yesterday) Permalink
are you trying to say that the latest nyt trendpiece is actually incorrect
― iatee, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:07 (Yesterday) Permalink
i know dudes who paint their nails but they are musicians and sport lots of jewelry and tattoos and ride motorcycles
― http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:24 (Yesterday) Permalink
xp i am afraid i am
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:26 (Yesterday) Permalink
but the new york times is the newspaper of record
― iatee, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:28 (Yesterday) Permalink
why would they print a story like this if they weren't completely sure
― iatee, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:29 (Yesterday) Permalink
Gonna write a stern email and get to the bottom of this for u
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 02:50 (3 hours ago) Permalink
signed, roger greenberg.
― dunham checks in (get bent), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 02:54 (3 hours ago) Permalink