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Can't imagine who this would appeal to, certainly nobody here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

o wow

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Gah, I couldn't even make it through that trailer. I'd rather watch cut scenes from real video games. I once spent a whole night watching online clips of people playing the Arma DayZ mod, which was like the best, scariest, coolest zombie movie I've never seen.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

http://theswca.com/images-misc/RALPH4.JPG

liars - wkiw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't gamed since I had an Atari in the 80s, but the super old cameos by Qbert and the Pac Man ghost (and the thinly veiled Donkey Kong basis of the lead characters) has me way interested. Also, voice talent casting seems great.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

Reddit, the movie

calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

otm

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

So this is Retro Game Challenge: The Movie?

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

the actual wreck-it ralph game reminds me of MAPPY

http://spyhunter007.com/Images/mappy_marquee.jpg

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

why aren't they just making a movie of MAPPY

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

I so knew that was you before I even saw the image or name

Delbert Botts, D.D.S. (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 June 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

That was like definitive pvmic

Delbert Botts, D.D.S. (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 June 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

About that:

Skrillex is on a roll: the superstar DJ will contribute music to Disney Animation's forthcoming film, "Wreck-It Ralph."

His new gig, announced at Comic-Con on Thursday, comes on the heels of the news that he'll also compose new material for the soundtrack to Harmony Korine's upcoming film, "Spring Breakers," co-starring Selena Gomez and Vanessa Hudgens. At the time of that announcement, he tweeted: "it's more or less traditional scoring... dont expect dance floor bangers!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

So, anyone see this? Any good? Is Whiney having a fit over its existence right now?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

my kid wants to see it. i do not.

akm, Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Reddit, the movie

It would be a double feature of Wreck-It Ralph and Spring Breakers.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

I've read enough positive reviews that I'll probably take my kids this week. But most also say it is kind of exhausting.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

it's cool for what it is and significantly better than Brave

don't trust the lil b in apartment 23 (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 3 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't have high expectations for this, but i ended up really enjoying it! it was both funnier and more moving than i anticipated. alan tudyk does a startling ed wynn impression, i had no idea it was him until the credits. the short at the beginning was also lovely.

reddening, Sunday, 4 November 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

I really enjoyed it. I don't think it has quite the emotional resonance of Pixar but the level of craft and attention to detail in the gags are definately Pixar-level.

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 5 November 2012 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

it's cool for what it is and significantly better than Brave

^^^ this.

Still kind of ;_; over the brief shot of Q*bert as a homeless beggar.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Monday, 5 November 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

This was pretty great. The pandering was limited and well-contained. Really well-cast, I think. I felt like the back half of the movie was a bit overburdened with mission objectives for the leads to end things successfully.

I'm nearly as bored with hyperreal animation as my partner w/ an animation background is, but the style allowed for some pretty great meta-gags in the Fix-it Felix world. The way the Nicelanders moved was amazingly spot-on; pixelated cake-splatters. Basically great art direction overall.

Also Paperman was a stellar short. I believe the look of the film required some experimental lighting, shading, and rendering pipelining and it payed off really well. The 2d/3d look was miles ahead of cel-shaded 3d, really well-integrated and well-lit. Also it was quite charming, had an anime-inspired aesthetic. I'm glad that Lasseter's leadership of Disney Animation is allowing them to develop a voice and mission distinctive from their Pixar counterparts.

Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Monday, 5 November 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, when I saw the opening title for Paperman, I actually wondered if it was supposed to be Studio Ghibli or something

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 5 November 2012 06:15 (eleven years ago) link

Also, did anyone stay for the very last gag at the end of the credits?

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 5 November 2012 06:33 (eleven years ago) link

yep!

Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Monday, 5 November 2012 06:35 (eleven years ago) link

exactly, it's the depth of such gags that I enjoyed. Like, how the hell did they get that kinda joke in a major disney flick?

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 5 November 2012 07:14 (eleven years ago) link

because John Lasseter probably

Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Monday, 5 November 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, what i'm thinking. I'm curiously how many of the animation/design staff have seen "King of Kong"

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 5 November 2012 07:28 (eleven years ago) link

i missed it, i'm assuming it was a killscreen?

don't trust the lil b in apartment 23 (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 5 November 2012 08:19 (eleven years ago) link

It got an 'A' from the AV Club, which I wasn't expecting (and naturally set off my 'pandering' alarm)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 5 November 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

This was pretty great. The pandering was limited and well-contained. Really well-cast, I think. I felt like the back half of the movie was a bit overburdened with mission objectives for the leads to end things successfully.

I'm nearly as bored with hyperreal animation as my partner w/ an animation background is, but the style allowed for some pretty great meta-gags in the Fix-it Felix world. The way the Nicelanders moved was amazingly spot-on; pixelated cake-splatters. Basically great art direction overall.

Also Paperman was a stellar short. I believe the look of the film required some experimental lighting, shading, and rendering pipelining and it payed off really well. The 2d/3d look was miles ahead of cel-shaded 3d, really well-integrated and well-lit. Also it was quite charming, had an anime-inspired aesthetic. I'm glad that Lasseter's leadership of Disney Animation is allowing them to develop a voice and mission distinctive from their Pixar counterparts.

I agree with all of this. The short was lovely, and Wreck It Ralph itself was great.

Sug ban (Nicole), Monday, 5 November 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-henry-jackman-wreck-it-ralph-20121101,0,3011992.story

Dude bought a Donkey Kong cabinet just to study the chips to make the music

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 05:58 (eleven years ago) link

Was worried for a while about being stuck in Sugar Rush with Sarah Silverman at her most annoying, but it all worked out in the end. Solid flick.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

yup, solid stuff. also totally didn't realize that purple rhino from was Altered Beast.

it's cool for what it is and significantly better than Brave
surprisingly... yes

paperman short was sweet, despite the cynical reactions of my fellows. totally got the anime vibe there too

Nhex, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

i dug this. hated paperman. i'm kinda anti-whimsy though.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

i could have watched that go kart race forever and ever.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

i missed the joke after the credits though! cyrus always wants to leave before the credits are over. so impatient.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

Eh, credits joke wasn't worth the wait.

I liked this better than "Brave," too, and for a video game movie about a giant dude smashing things, it was pretty girl-power friendly. Weird, though, how it works almost as a conflation of "Monsters, Inc." and "Toy Story 3." It even borrows the latter's support group gag. But that doesn't really hurt the movie in the end.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Loved the movie. Hated paper man.

Jeff, Monday, 17 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

alan tudyk does a startling ed wynn impression

congratulations! you are in the fellowship of ppl under 70 who can recognize an Ed Wynn impression.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

(I have no idea who Alan Tudyk is)

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

I really loved this movie, and my kids (of course) dug it too.

schwantz, Monday, 7 January 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Disney have really upped their game with this. It was funny as hell (no "oh MAN!!!" Dreamworks-style "jokes"), visually awesome, and the central relationship didn't feel forced or annoying. It was fast-paced too, which I liked because of all the gags thrown in (not sure how kids would take it in). The world they created was really engrossing, like Toy Story/Monsters Inc as mentioned upthread.

Most enjoyable movie I've seen in ages.

kinder, Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

Just watched it. Haven't seen Brave, but there's no way it was better than this.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 10 February 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

pretty good, despite ripping off The Iron Giant a bit

Number None, Sunday, 10 February 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Enjoyed this a lot. Loved the references (incl. king of kong). Didn't catch gag.

hyggeligt, Sunday, 10 February 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Watched this last night, like most Pixar movies I've seen recently it started out amazing and quickly devolved into Hollywood Film Story A and i spent much of the rest of the movie just wishing it would pursue the stranger more character-driven beginning rather than HERO SAVES THE WORLD. But still, lots of affecting moments, pretty enjoyable, etc. When he smashed her car it was effing sad!

The crazy candy mayor was pretty rad, reminded me of the Mad Hatter from the OG Alice in Wonderland.

Music kinda sucked, they should have had some real Chiptune stuff instead of the pop tunes during the sugar race but whatever.

The Darth Vader sound when Ralph was breathing through a straw hiding in the chocolate pond.... was Disney hinting at the SW merger?

I liked the joke when he went "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?" and then Ralph takes off his glasses and hits him with them, and the guy goes "Oh, i see what you did there..."

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, there was a part where they are at the party and he smashes the cake and some stuff lands on Pac Man and his jaw drops or something, i think it was a reference to Watchmen.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 February 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

It seemed a lot darker than Pixar - even with Monsters Inc you didn't get the impression that they thought of themselves as villains - the heel turn in fact seemed completely brutal - compared with what I was expecting it was some Lars Von Trier shit.

Cosign on Paper Man being an interesting technical demonstration that can largely go fuck itself.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 9 March 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

ha! good yoda story. oh, dads.

Brio2, Monday, 16 June 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

I'm obv against analysing the politics of most movies and esp kids ones

but eeesh the incredibles

dn/ac (darraghmac), Monday, 16 June 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link

it's a shame because The Incredibles really is one of their best films, it adds a sour taste to it

Nhex, Monday, 16 June 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Plus this, with lots of little Twitter-like birds too.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--YQy5hb7n--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/jdyixelbl3ex3rbf0dy3.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link

I'm cashing in all of my industry chips to lobby for an Ornaldo Bloomps cameo.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link

"lubhub"

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

reminds me of how Chicken Little had a line about "Chickens Gone Wild"

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link

"lubhub"

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:17 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I...I don't know what to say. Spoilers for a particular scene at least.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/wreck-it-ralph-2-is-bringing-back-all-the-disney-prince-1796938437

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link

Sounds fake but who knows. Disney writers could actually be this blind.

But there is one place where everyone shares all the same likes: OhMyDisney.com, the happiest place online.

She said the place has everything, including food and merch—and then someone runs and screams “Tsum Tsum,” a real-life popular stuffed toy, which Vanellope calls “little furry sausages.”

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 15 July 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link

Tsum tsum have been a thing for a long time.

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 July 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link

word, I had been wanting to see this movie for a while but if it turns out that it's become part of a franchise I'll be crossing it off my list.

billstevejim, Saturday, 15 July 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

that sounds awesome tbh

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 15 July 2017 07:30 (six years ago) link

bizzaro otm

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 July 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link

was gonna say it sounds funny to me actually

Nhex, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

This year he’s going to break it 👊 #RalphBreakstheInternet pic.twitter.com/wKNL13W26Z

— Wreck-It Ralph (@wreckitralph) January 1, 2018

Pushed back to November, it seems?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

the trailer for this makes this look like the worst fucking movie ever made.

akm, Sunday, 17 June 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I'm hoping for more than Ready Player One: Disney IP edition.

Vernon Locke, Sunday, 17 June 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link

it's seriously like emoji-movie level bad

akm, Monday, 18 June 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

i thought it looked fine. you guys saw the first one, right?

Nhex, Monday, 18 June 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

new one is very good, a huge step up from the first and marred only by some intermittently rushed/forced plotting, and all the real-life branding stuff, and a certain clunkiness to the realization of the metaphor-as-antagonist. but the shit this is really about, and the way it's about it, seems so relevant and on-point for a kids' movie in 2018. and visually it's just a feast.

i wish they had just left felix and jane lynch out of it though. their whole bit added nothing, about as much as the still-tedious zangief jokes.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 December 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

Whole family haaaated this movie, which we all thought was ugly and boring and annoying.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 04:34 (five years ago) link

Interesting. I quite enjoyed it, and like seeing how it attempted to show the internet on the big screen. Overall though, it’s quite disposable or forgettable.

Some parts were quite dark - such as the virus/dark web sequence. I thought this might be a bit disturbing for younger viewers. The messages around friendship were also a bit mawkish.

Visually, and in every other way, the Spider-man film is far superior.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 20 December 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link

That's for sure.

One of the (many) problems I had with it, besides Ralph and Vanellope being pretty annoying, imo, is that their friendship did not feel like this huge thing that needed to be saved. So when the movie takes its turn halfway toward this epic "I want to be your friend," "no, I want to be your friend!' "no, let's both be FWENDS!" theme, I couldn't wait for it to be over. It was like watching a louder episode of Barney. Also, while I get it, I'm not usually a fan of films where the corporations play themselves. It's a hard trick to pull off without it feeling like an ad. (Though it was interesting to see which companies OK'd their participation and which didn't.)

I might have posted this on a different thread, but my two main takeaways were:

1) This was like watching a feature length adaptation of a five-minute cartoon they show before an Epcot ride and 2) We all would have rather watched a movie about tough-talking but still singing crime-fighting Disney princesses. Speaking of that, even Vanellope's big ironic musical number we all thought was a dull, tuneless, easy-target missed opportunity.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

Though I will say, as a family experience it's rare that we all agree on a movie, even if we all agreed we hated it, so at least there was that!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

song gave me a few giggles AND got me teary, i'm a sap.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

idk i really responded to the whole idea of friends that move away/follow their own thing but that doesn't mean the end, etc.... i agree it was laid on a little thick, and to get us there ralph has to be a REAL doof for most of the movie. just do one-third as many scenes that reestablish his problem. i also think it wd have been better if his toxic masculinity had been provoked and encouraged by some gamergate svengali types who picked up on his jealousy of shank, etc. the whole virus scheme just took too much time and verbiage.

i wish all the corporations were fake equivalents, just as the made-up video games are funnier and more charming than having the street fighter characters and pac-man there.

i'm not a parent so what do i know - but it struck me as cool that the takeaways from this went beyond "believe in yourself!" to more practical lessons like "don't read the comments," "don't be a clingy jealous jerk dude," "the internet is toxic," and "your friends are going to move away someday, but seeing them in a few months and staying in touch by phone is still a real friendship."

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

I know these are supposed to be good but I can't shake my prejudice that they aren't far enough removed from Pixels/Ready Player One territory. And that's my bad, I know.

One thing I'm appreciating at this particular moment is that John C. Reilly is able to both enjoy a pretty decent level of success and also, additionally, do basically whatever ridiculous project he wants, seemingly without compromise at any point on that continuum. Like I just now remembered that he was the dad in We Need to Talk About Kevin. I love him.

Loggins and Rogers and G are...K3NNY (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

yeah if this is making it easy for him to spend however many years wheeling and dealing to get The Sisters Brothers made, that's worth it in and of itself.

another admitted gripe: the dangers of the internet are sort of limited here. tho obviously the movie doesn't have to be ALL about that, and it does find an emotional hook and metaphor for one big one (amplification of toxic insecurities), it's almost by design unable to address at least some big ones, like "giant corporations like disney want you to use the internet constantly to gather your data" etc. etc.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

Yeah, exactly. There is a good, smart, almost subversive movie that could have been made here, but ... this is not it. This was just a half-assed hodgepodge of ideas in search of a movie. My wife actually fell asleep, probably around the time it went from "we have to get that steering wheel!" (apprx. the first 3 hours of the movie) to "why can't we be FRIENDS! I JUST WANT TO BE FRIENDS! WON'T YOU BE MY FRIEND!"

Seriously, are there kids out there who saw or even liked the first one and wondered, even once, how the friendship between Ralph and Vanellope was working out? They ain't exactly Anna and Olaf, or (insert Disney character and sidekick here).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link

I loved the whole Slaughter Race idea / Alan Menken musical number!

but if you don't like Zangief jokes, gtfo

very much enjoyed this though i agree it's kinda forgettable in the end. at least 30 minutes of the film was just meme gags that had no relevance to the story (which is fine! but gives the whole thing a much floatier air)

Nhex, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Can't decide if making clickbait virus purveyors sympathetic was subversive reminder of the humanity of even the scummiest aspects of the internet or insidious propaganda by scumlords.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

counterpoint on the ralph/vanellope friendship: isn't this what makes the film interesting? so many kids' movies end with a best-friends-forever kind of thing, as the first one did. i think doing what this does with that friendship, showing that such a happy "ending" isn't one, that it can still hit a rough patch, that one person can be a jerk by wanting to keep that "forever" in stasis, is worth doing.... and wouldn't work with a brand-new movie where we don't care about the characters and their lives. i like that both characters actually move forwards into new places and don't end where they start, etc., which is a real plague on sequels like this. again tho i agree that it's sold a little too hard and repetitiously.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

I mostly didn't care about their friendship or whether it survived, but maybe that's just me.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

I found the sequel enjoyable but a bit of a mess; my main problem was that, to me, the character motivation and plot progression were all over the place. It felt like the story had been cut down from something much longer.

The princess scenes were great, too bad we had seen most of them already.

Duane Barry, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah I was all in on the friendship so that probably makes all the difference!

Agreed about it feeling cut down. It was long as-is so it bugs me more that they shoehorned in the Star Wars stuff, the orphaned racers stuff, and other things that take the movie off track.

I didn't see any trailers or anything so that helped with the princess stuff. A kid a few seats away had memorized the first big princess scene and was speaking every line along in time. I was sort of okay with those bits, Family Guy-ish tho it might be.... since even if the autocritique is all points we all know by this point, it's still good for Disney themselves to say them. Not like they're gonna pull the more problematic characters out of circulation of course. If anything I imagine they're now selling alternate versions wearing their new outfits etc.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

My kids loved this, especially the Princess scenes, which we had no idea about beforehand. My 3 year old daughter still talks about this move from time to time even though we saw it about a month ago. It's her first favorite movie.

silverfish, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

Ooh, you want forgettable, I forgot The Incredibles 2 even came out. I really didn't like that one, either.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link

wtf the Incredibles 2 was incredible! it's right there in the name!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 December 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

I thought it was as plotless and thematically muddled as Ralph (though at least Incredibles 2 looked great!).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link

And mentioned in this thread a little earlier, but the Spider-man cartoon is sooooooooo good - smart, gorgeous, funny, moving - that it really shows how subpar Incredibles 2 and Ralph are.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

We can have both! I don't really see them as being in the same category at all, especially since Spider-Man drew from tons of source material and the other two are original properties (well, for the most part)

Both movies had pretty clear themes, even if you didn't like 'em lol

Nhex, Friday, 21 December 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

I can't even remember the theme of Incredibles 2. Was it that dads have trouble being stay at home parents and women should work? I dunno. I do seem to recall the villain's evil plan being to make superheroes legal again so that they can frame them crashing a boat into stuff so that superheroes would be made illegal. Lots of runaway vehicles in this one.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

Regardless, I did literally forget Incredibles 2 came out this year!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

The theme of Incredibles 2 is "I, Brad Bird, am a better person than I was 15 years ago"

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 21 December 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

"I, Brad Bird, made the jump to live-action blockbusters with Mission: Impossible, but then flopped with the terrible and boring Tomorrowland, so was forced to go back and make a sequel to my best known animated hit in order to get out of movie jail."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 December 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

look, if you can't appreciate a stealth-Randian family film i don't know what you to tell ya

Nhex, Friday, 21 December 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

I did not appreciate it

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 December 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

evergreen

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 December 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link


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