Animated Creatures: ilx animation poll nomination thread (closes June 10th!)

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This is the nomination thread for a ballot submission poll of the "top 100" animated films of "all time".

Nomination Eligibility Requirements

All nominated works must be animated, using any technique, traditional or computer-aided, including but not limited to hand-drawn, cel, stop-motion, rotoscoping, motion capture, and 3-D. For films which combine animation and live action, the work is only eligible if all the action is animated for the majority of the film. (James and the Giant Peach and Pagemaster are eligible, Pete's Dragon is not.) Works consisting of montaged still photographs of live action are ineligible (La jetee)

Films eligible for nomination include:
1. Feature films created for theatrical, home video, or television original release, including properly so-called feature films in the continuity of episodic television. (The Lion King and all its direct-to-video sequels are eligible. Most Naruto spin-off movies are eligible.)
2. Shorts and short-subjects intended for theatrical distribution, film festivals, anthology TV shows, or home video, but not individual episodes of any running TV series. (Warner Bros. shorts, Don Hertzfeldt, most animated shorts ever are eligible.)
3. Stand-alone "specials" created for television. (Rankin/Bass and Charlie Brown are eligible.)

Ineligible: any episodic content whatsoever, including TV series (Adventure Time), OVA (FLCL), web series (Homestar Runner), or individual episodes of same. (Maybe we'll poll this in Animated Creatures II.)

Nominate stuff by posting in this thread! Since lots of nominations, especially shorts, may be obscure, please provide as much identifying information as you can in your nomination, including YouTube or Vimeo links if possible.

Nominations will eventually be listed at http://stuff.jklol.net/animation/; this link will be updated periodically and updates announced in the thread. Nominations will close at a random time on or after June 10th.

Have fun!

The Thing (1982)

^ sadly ineligible

everything by Jordan Belson
everything by John Whitney

The Thief and the Cobbler (not the film as such, but the idea of what it might have been)*

How The Grinch Stole Christmas (1966)
Bewitched Bunny (1954)
The Triplets of Belleville (2003)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)
Bimbo's Initiation (1931)
Fantastic Planet [La Planète Sauvage] (1973)
Rubber Johnny (2005)
A Charlie Brown Christmas (1965)
Cat Soup [Nekojiru-so] (2001)
A Year Without A Santa Claus (1974)
Spirited Away [Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi] (2001)

is Who Framed Roger Rabbit eligible

I Love To Singa (Tex Avery, 1936)
Daffy Duck Slept Here (Robert McKimson, 1948)

Something of Norman McLaren's. Maybe Pas de deux.

lemme just get this out of the way:

Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (1978)
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986)
My Neighbor Totoro (1988)
Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)
Only Yesterday (1991)
Porco Rosso (1992)
Pom Poko (1994)
Whisper of the Heart (1995)
Princess Mononoke (1997)

thank you for your time.

and since i'm here:

Akira (1988)
Wings of Honneamise (1987)
Night on the Galactic Railroad (1985)
Perfect Blue (1998)
Millennium Actress (2001)
Paprika (2006)
Mind Game (2004) (everyone PLEASE make an effort to see this.)
Heavy Traffic (1973)
Coonskin (1975)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993)

i am gonna try not to spam this thread with noms too heavily

also in the interest of getting stuff outta the way:

Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century (1953)
Duck Amuck (1953)
Rabbit Fire (1951)
Rabbit Seasoning (1952)
One Froggy Evening (1955)
What's Opera, Doc? (1957)
The Scarlet Pumpernickel (1950)

yeah i mean...do we really need to list all the disney and pixar movies?

I just want to draw attention to a few WB shorts that might get overlooked because of the canononical stuff.

no i think posting the titles of shorts is totally a good idea.

And some non-WB stuff, like Tex Avery's "King-Size Canary."

A Cat in Paris (2010)
Der Fuehrer's Face (1942)
Chicken Little (1943)
Popeye the Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor (1936)
Persepolis (2007)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown (1966)
Bugs and Thugs (1954)
Little Red Riding Rabbit (1944)

is

Neco z Alenky (Alice) (1988)

eligible?

Wish I could nominate the animated bits from the James Thurber-based The War Between Men and Women. Since I can't, I'll nominate Bakshi's Wizards.

Also Hugo the Hippo, which I loved as a kid and which has never gotten an English-language DVD release.

yeah i mean...do we really need to list all the disney and pixar movies?

― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:05 PM (8 minutes ago)

Kinda, yeah...the way I vote in these is paste the nominations list into a text file and then start cutting, so the noms list really needs to be as complete as possible imo.

everything by Jordan Belson
everything by John Whitney

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:33 PM (1 hour ago)

This is no help at all without titles.

Gerty the Dinosaur

Porky in Wackyland (1937)

god if i actually have to start going through lists of the termite terrace stuff i may go insane

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo October 23, 1941
Bambi August 12, 1942
Saludos Amigos August 24, 1942
The Three Caballeros December 21, 1944
Make Mine Music April 20, 1946
Fun and Fancy Free September 27, 1947
Melody Time May 27, 1948
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad October 5, 1949
Cinderella March 4, 1950
Alice in Wonderland July 26, 1951
Peter Pan 2/5/1953
Lady and the Tramp June 16, 1955
Sleeping Beauty 1/29/1959
One Hundred and One Dalmatians 1/25/1961
The Sword in the Stone December 25, 1963
The Jungle Book October 18, 1967
The Aristocats December 24, 1970
Robin Hood November 8, 1973
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh March 11, 1977
The Rescuers June 22, 1977
The Fox and the Hound July 10, 1981
The Black Cauldron July 24, 1985
The Great Mouse Detective July 2, 1986
Oliver & Company November 13, 1988
The Little Mermaid November 15, 1989
The Rescuers Down Under November 16, 1990
Beauty and the Beast November 13, 1991
Aladdin November 11, 1992
The Lion King June 15, 1994
Pocahontas July 16, 1995
The Hunchback of Notre Dame June 19, 1996
Hercules June 14, 1997
Mulan June 5, 1998
Tarzan June 12, 1999
Fantasia 2000 December 17, 1999
Dinosaur May 19, 2000
The Emperor's New Groove December 10, 1999
Atlantis: The Lost Empire June 3, 2001
Lilo & Stitch June 16, 2002
Treasure Planet November 17, 2002
Brother Bear Ocotber 20, 2003
Home on the Range March 21, 2004
Chicken Little Ocotber 30, 2005
Meet the Robinsons March 30, 2007
Bolt November 21, 2008
The Princess and the Frog November 25, 2009
Tangled November 24, 2010
Winnie the Pooh July 15, 2011

i know if any oshii film places it'll be

Ghost in the Shell (1996)

but i wanna make sure that

Patlabor 2 (1993)

gets some shine because

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmlwhaEEgE

Toy Story
Toy Story 2
Toy Story 3
A Bugs Life
Monsters, Inc
Finding Nemo
The Incredibles
Cars
Cars 2
Ratatouille
Up
Wall-E

The Illusionist (L'Illusionniste) (2010)
When the Wind Blows (1983)
Watership Down (1978)
Lord of the Rings (1978)

The Secret of NIHM (1982)

Justice League: The New Frontiier (2008)

The Fleischer "Superman" cartoons:

Superman (a.k.a. The Mad Scientist) September 26, 1941
The Mechanical Monsters November 28, 1941
Billion Dollar Limited January 9, 1942
The Arctic Giant February 27, 1942
The Bulleteers March 27, 1942
The Magnetic Telescope April 24, 1942
Electric Earthquake May 15, 1942
Volcano July 10, 1942
Terror on the Midway July 24, 1942

The Wolfman (Tim Hope, 1999)

Orson Welles memorial nom:

The Transformers: The Movie (1986)

The Secret of NIMH (1982)

saw this in an empty theater -- just me and my mom

i don't even remember the details but i'm still scarred

no one nominate 'snoopy come home'

Fantasmagorie
Le Roi et L'Oiseau
Street of Crocodiles
The Cabinet of Jan Svankmajer
Darkness/Light/Darkness
Dimensions of Dialogue
Buzz Box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw

What about stuff that was featured on/comissioned by MTV's Liquid Television? If so:
The Adventures of Thomas and Nardo (by Mark Beyer and absolutely incredible: http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/697679/the-adventures-of-thomas-and-nardo-1-of-5.jhtml#id=1671923 )
Aeon Flux (the original shorts)

Oh I guess that counts as things commissioned for individual episodes of running TV series :(

Prophet and Lo$$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXdZ7wSuZ0

Syncrhomy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmSzc8mBJCM

no one nominate 'snoopy come home'

― mookieproof, Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:39 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aka There Will Be Tears

Watership Down

Fritz the Cat
Heavy Traffic
Coonskin
Hey Good Lookin
American Pop
Fire and Ice

shorts maybe not mentioned yet? sorry if I doubled up already

The Old Mill (Disney) - 1937
The Rabbit of Seville (WB) - 1949
One Froggy Evening (WB) - 1955
Red Hot Riding Hood (MGM) - 1943
The Three Little Bops (WB) - 1957
Duck Amuck (WB) - 1953
Rabbit Seasoning (WB) - 1952

Rango

The Sandman (1991, Paul Berry)
Allegro Non Troppo

Heavy Metal - 1981
Charlotte's Web - 1973
Yellow Submarine - 1968
Kung Fu Panda - 2011

The Iron Giant

Some more Fleischers:

Bimbo's Initiation (1931)
Boop Oop A Doop (1932)
Minnie the Moocher (1932)
I'll Be Glad When You're Dead You Rascal You (1932)
Popeye the Sailor (1933)
The Old Man of the Mountain

thx for covering Bakshi remy!

re: Belson and Whitney for WmC, here what I've seen from Belson's cv from wikipedia (I'm not sure if all of these count as animated, some are more like manipulations of processed film, I guess...? anyway nothing's on youtube and is pretty much only available from a single source afaict. nonetheless they are amazing):

Mambo (1951)
Caravan (1952)
Bop-Scotch (1952)
Mandala (1953)
Raga (1958)
Séance (1959)
Allures (1961)
Re-entry (1964)
Phenomena (1965)
Samadhi (1967)
Momentum (1968)
Cosmos (1969)
World (1970)
Meditation (1971)
Chakra (1972)
Light (1973)
Cycles (1975) made with Stephen Beck
Music of the Spheres (1977)
Infinity (1980)

Coraline

Some more Windsor McCay:

How a Mosquito Operates (1912)
The Sinking of the Lusitania (1918)
Dreams Of a Rarebit Fiend: Bug Vaudeville (1921)
Dreams of a Rarebit Fiend: The Pet (1921)
Dreams of a Rarebit Fiend: The Flying House (1921)

and sorry on the doubling of the Bimbo's Initiation nom

Moar Looney Tunes (I'm a total nut, I know)
I don't know how I could possibly have forgotten this one

Kiss Me Cat, 1951
http://youtu.be/f_rUhesgNqU
Marc Antony the bulldog and Pussyfoot the kitten - beyond adorable.

That's not the one I was remembering.

Feed the Kitty 1952
http://youtu.be/8Lq9RUDcmfQ
THIS is adorbs x 1000

I like this era of the Disney shorts, they had a bit of a Looney Tunes quality about them that was very chaotic and fun

Mickey's Trailer (1938)
http://youtu.be/j02HmFPpYds

Trying to decide if I want to reserve a minimum or maximum percentage of ballot spots for features vs. shorts. I don't want to give in to any temptation to make this a LT/MM-heavy ballot.

my ballot feels like it's going to be 70% shorts atm, lol

watched a ton of those Disney shorts recently, pretty much all the ones from 1938 on with Goofy, Donald and Mickey are aces

did you already cover Clockcleaners? and the one where Goofy excercises?

omg the exercising Goofy one is A+, I forgot about that

In my dim hazy memory I know there are at least two different shorts (not sure of the studios involved) that involve a lion roaring over and over again in the jungle -- one of them wasn't all that imo, but the other one was so hysterically funny I was on the edge of wetting my pants. I haven't seen either of them in at least 30 years, but if I run across the funny one, it's definitely going on my ballot.

L-a-a-a-a-a-ambert, the sheepish lion

dunno if it's really hysterically funny, but it's good. and involves roaring.

WmC, you may be referring to Tex Avery's "The Slap Happy Lion."
http://youtu.be/ID_hw2U-1BU

Okay fuckit I'm repping for this

Little Hiawatha (1937)
http://youtu.be/4MUuDFeoyvM

It was a favorite when I was little, and I watched it expecting to cringe but it's p cute imo. Unless you object to tiny bottoms, lol

xpost - I think you're right!

Lonesome Ghosts (1937), in which Mickey, Goofy and Donald were Ghostbusters before there was such a thing. Goofy actually says, "I ain't a-scared of mo ghosts!"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS1XVcDD2hM

<3 <3 another one I had forgotten!

Just checking the spreadsheet of nominations and noticed that 'Toy Story 2' is missing from it. It was nominated upthread by remy bean.

right you are; fixed. Been a while since I updated that, will do so by the end of the weekend.

well hey I did it now cuz why not

nominations are updated, some filmographic data still incomplete.

I have 348 nominations so far, which is pretty sweet. Keep them coming!

Totally rando correction: G.I. Joe: The Movie is '87, not '97. I'd hate to see that error compromise its surefire top five status.

one mentioned upthread that hasn't made it onto the list: The Cat Came Back

http://youtu.be/bETCusT5kNM

Also, no love for Gilliam? I'll nominate Storytime (1968). Includes the excellent A Christmas Card, from 5:50

http://youtu.be/6KUqHzk26kI

The Great Piggy Bank Robbery (Robert Clampett, 1946)
A Gruesome Twosome (Robert Clampett, 1945)
Falling Hare (Robert Clampett, 1945)
What -- No Spinach? (Dave Fleischer, 1936)
Goonland (Dave Fleischer, 1938)
Gulliver's Travels (Dave Fleischer, 1939)
The Hole Idea (Robert McKimson, 1955)
Vinni Pukh (Fyodor Khitruk, 1970)

watched Pinnochio (with my daughter) yesterday for the first time in decades - christ what a film. so dark!

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, May 29, 2012

i already started working on my ballot (lol) and i didnt even hesitate to make this no. 1. though when i started watching warner bros shorts again in earnest i started wobbling a little.

I thought Chico and Rita (Fernando Trueba & Javier Mariscal, 2010) had been nominated, but seems to have been overlooked.

The full movie's on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMjStsOkjA.

Has anyone nominated Rabbit?

Rabbit - 2005 Run Wrake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3XyOyl47Q

^tried to post as a link, not embedded. Sorry

has anyone nom'd Saludos Amigos and the Three Caballeros yet

All shorts:

Creature Comforts (1990)
(pre-Wallace and Gromit)

Tin Toy (1987)
(early pixar)

For Scentimental Reasons (1949)
(pepe)

Guard Dog (2004)
plympton

More (1998)
later used for kenna's "hell bent" video, the original version uses a new order song

Walky Talky Hawky (1946)
(foghorn leghorn)

Technological Threat (1988)
(this was either used to fill time inbetween shows on nickelodeon in the late 80s or it appeared on liquid television or both)

Birds Anonymous (1957)
(tweety/sylvester .. the part where sylvester goes through withdrawal is pretty great)

I Met The Walrus (2007)
(some kid interviewed john lennon in the 60s and taped it and someone animated it 40 years later)

Sven Hoek (1992)
i just wanted to put this here to see if maybe it could sneak in somehow but it's def ineligible.. :(

Old Fangs (2010)
Please Say Something (2009)
Xemoland (2011)
Tord Och Tord (2010)
these are all shorts i saw at sundance which no one will vote for cos no one has seem them but i think they all rule, so yeah..

also very important: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owcHPirBh84 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacx1WZQv3I

i fucked that one up lol

someone did

is it worth nominating any of the futurama movies? I just rewatched bender's big score and thought, nah.

Un autre: Gandahar, aka Light Years, 1988, René Laloux. Same guy as Fantastic Planet, more traditional animation, more ideas, better story.

God, what am I thinking. Gantz Graf, Alex Rutterford, 2002.

http://youtu.be/AyJfHU4GoOQ

More (1998)

this is one of my favorites. Highly recommended viewing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnVf8we1kWc

8 Ball Bunny (1950)
http://youtu.be/VWTUntToZrM

Have You Got Any Castles? (1937)
http://youtu.be/P-RxoBs6UAc

You're an Education (1938)
http://youtu.be/a59e7VVyTTw

Slick Hare (1948)
http://youtu.be/cxBZVulaxs8

Katknip Kollege (1936)
http://youtu.be/IXBkbw8AQm8

The Hep Cat (1942)
http://youtu.be/qKcTqJPFSbs

Any marvin the martian stuff nommed?

God, what am I thinking. Gantz Graf, Alex Rutterford, 2002.

One poll in which I will NOT vote for Autechre.

Maybe shouldn't be adding more Popeyes, as vote-splitting may render his chances of placing more minute, but I was watching last night and these are particularly fab:

Brotherly Love (1936)
http://youtu.be/pWGYDfijwDE

Bridge Ahoy (1936)
http://youtu.be/iE45kpSf5ws

Just watching Madagascar, 2005, Eric Darnell/Tom McGrath. If a panda can get a nomination then lemurs deserve one too imo.

Hmm it's pretty annoying tho

kung fu panda 2008 btw, not 2011. think that may've been the second one.

Just took kids to Madagascar 3 yesterday. It is not any kind of great, and I wouldn't nominate it much less vote for it, BUT it does have pretty amazing set pieces. Action scenes in digital animation these days can be pretty mindblowing.

Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)

I am an unbiased poll administrator but that is a terrible movie.

It is not. Mike Mignola is incapable of producing anything of less than stellar quality, which reminds me:
The Amazing Screw-On Head (2006)

Hope it's eligible, it's a TV pilot of a series that never got picked up.

Nominations over!

Voting thread and updated nomination list mañana

Dang, I was gonna nominate:

Mindscape/Le Paysagiste (1976)
http://youtu.be/6Q9sY9Ti1DI

Gorgeous NFB Canada pinscreen animation. NFB probably underrepresented in general (did anyone nominate any Richard Condie?).

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