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I'd also think NPH would veto anything outright insensitive, really.

it's probably more that sensitive portrayals of homosexuality probably aren't at the forefront of a creative team who work for an almost 100% heteronormative show (and, yes, laziness).

yeah, that's true, but that doesn't make it any more watchable. the gay-panic of the episode i mentioned earlier left a bad taste in the mouth.

what are you guys talking about? did nph bash some gays?

I'm scanning through, croupier, but I can't for the life of me figure out who or what you're responding to.

you just sounded like you were defending a dumpee more than a tv show - it's not the show, it's the viewers that changed, assuming they were ever really on board. i think it's actually a pretty valid metaphor, as some people commit to shows for their natural life, and others play the field (which isn't to say they cut and run!)

And it is valid. I'm not condemning anyone for moving on, and if it makes it easier for those who've moved on to go on about how HIMYM started letting itself go or made blatant attempts to attract a newer, younger demographic, well...that's all just part of the healing process.

Barney's brother is a happily successful gay man fwiw.. Larger character than frame buyers at least.

Ohhhh, yeaaaahh. I was trying to remember if there was a recurring LGBT character (besides Lily) and I came up short. Yeah, he's portrayed totally sympathetically. Like a non-damaged, gay Barney (or a black NPH).

Also just generally baffled by people who think HIMYM has gone severely downhill. Its peaks and troughs have been barely perceptible (and I've seen the entire series, like, twice through at this point, so it isn't just that I'm misremembering).

yeah same here, imo show has had a mild inevitable slide in overall quality over the years but not as much as most shows that last 7+ seasons.

I was trying to remember if there was a recurring LGBT character (besides Lily) and I came up short. Yeah, he's portrayed totally sympathetically.

This is what I don't get. I would have thought HIMYM is better than most shows, e.g. Modern Family in terms of its portrayal of queer characters. And yeah, Lily's bisexuality has come up several times.

I'm generally on Deric's and some dude's side wrt the quality of this show but the last few episodes have been making me wonder. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Barney-Quinn thing. And I think it was actually a good decision for Ted to avoid Robin at this point! I was really disappointed when his recent revelation was that he should in fact reignite a close friendship with someone he had been love with for years and who had just recently rejected him.

(Caveat: I've seen the whole series minus those last few episodes you mention, so I will concede that it's possible that the whole thing inexplicably went down the tubes in the past couple of weeks.)

yeah i think i've missed more episodes lately than usual but the second half of this season has definitely been one of the more pronounced dips in the show's run

I'm just generally not feeling the whole "Barney falls in love...again!" thing this season. Like, if they're gonna do it for real this time and make it stick, fine. But even factoring in character growth, this particular character is only gonna fall head over heels so many times in a row before it becomes completely unbelievable and actively irritating.

The thing with How I Met is that there have been some occasional awesome reveals, like the first robin sparkles thing, and a few others. But usually it doesn't live up to those at all, and especially in the last few seasons I can't think of anything nearly that good. So it's not that the show has gotten considerably worse, just that it doesn't seem to hit the same really great high notes that balanced out the schmaltz. I remember the jumping across the roof thing really getting to me though, actually. That's actually what I enjoy about it -- the life lessons of a certain age and whatever are handled pretty well. Having dreams, giving up on dreams, dealing with getting older and settling down, etc. Sometimes it doesn't do a great job, but every now and then it seems much more forthright and direct about how people handle this stuff than does nearly any other show on TV (which, I'll grant, is an insanely low bar, but still...)

dumb college ted will always kill though.

Pretty much the entirety of my current complaint with this past season is the feeling of wheel spinning and throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks (Marshall and Lily move to Long Island! Or, no, wait, no they don't! Barney's in love with this girl! Or maybe it's this girl! Orrrrr maybe it's this girl!). As if they haven't done as much pre-planning as usual and they're pretty terrible at making it up as they go along. That's just more a complaint about the overarching narrative, though. Overall, the individual episodes are still fine.

the barney/nora thing was good, they prob abandoned that too soon

Well-said, clover. Those elements are a lot of why I like the show, too. However...

But usually it doesn't live up to those at all, and especially in the last few seasons I can't think of anything nearly that good.

Maybe it was just a personal thing (and much different than the kind of surprise that HIMYM usually provides), but the 'Marshall's dad' storyline kinda kicked the legs out from under me. At least in part because they summarized about a year and a half of my life via a three-episode concentrate of Marshall coping with the situation.

the only episode from this season that really struck me as prime himym in every way was at the japanese steakhouse w/ ted telling the story about victoria and the bet between marshall/lily and barney and i can't remember robin's storyline off the top of my head, something w/ work maybe. there were a few other ones that were good but that's the only one i could imagine someone holding in comparison w/ pre-bubble himym. w/ the exception of the one 'date' ted had w/ stella that was 3 minutes long (and that might be just cuz they played a big star song) i think i've dreaded every minute of every big ted relationship since robin and that's alot of airtime. they somehow screwed up the (first?) robin-barney relationship and that should've been a gimme, how the fuck did they make that duller than robin-ted??? marshall-lily they have only occasionally seemed to really have an idea what to do w/ lately and while marshall has had some good storylines i can't really recall the last time lily had a compelling storyline that was her own, and the problem w/ ted is the central dilemma w/ the show and they haven't solved it yet. clover otm about what still works about this show though.

otm re: Japanese restaurant/Victoria ep. That was quality as all get it out.

Don't forget re: HIMYM the first ep of this season was Barney's wedding so it makes sense they plAy up a few diff romances to keep us guessing who it'll be. Not sure if wedding is season finale anymore though?

FFM!

Mordy! I owe you a reply. Busted. :O

lol, no worries. i just messaged you not ten minutes ago and then saw you posting so i thought i'd throw up the FFM-signal

i can't believe they've been teasing out this wedding since the beginning of LAST season

imo the worst possible way to watch HIMYM is like it's Lost or something and actually live in suspense about 'the mother' or any other long term memories. i'm sure there are people that can even take the fun out of the Slapsgiving countdown.

memories=mysteries

so apparently Community will be airing on Fridays. After Whitney.

"...."

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So Whitney and Community on Friday. Parks and Rec after the Office on Thursday. Thursday 10pm is Rock Center with Brian Williams.

lol community's getting the chuck deal. i'm not sure i get the whitney move - it seems like either you believe that could be a hit w/ proper retooling in which case you keep it on a night ppl actually watch tv on (or just keep it where it is) or you believe this show has very limited growth opportunities but it has a loyal audience and helps yr brand w/ critics and certain demos in which case you put it on fridays, and the move seems to indicate nbc doesn't hold the former view and nothing i have heard seems to indicate they should hold the latter view. parks and rec should've been on after the office it's entire run.

MONDAY
8-10 p.m. – "The Voice"
10-11 p.m. – "REVOLUTION"

TUESDAY
8-9 p.m. –"The Voice"
9-9:30 p.m. – "GO ON"
9:30-10 p.m. – "THE NEW NORMAL"
10-11 p.m. – "Parenthood"

WEDNESDAY
8-8:30 p.m. – "ANIMAL PRACTICE"
8:30-9 p.m. – "GUYS WITH KIDS"
9-10 p.m. – "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
10-11 p.m. – "CHICAGO FIRE"

THURSDAY
8-8:30 p.m. – "30 Rock"
8:30-9 p.m. – "Up All Night"
9-9:30 p.m. – "The Office"
9:30-10 p.m. – "Parks and Recreation"
10-11 p.m. – "Rock Center with Brian Williams"

FRIDAY
8-8:30 p.m. – "Whitney"
8:30-9 p.m. – "Community"
9-10 p.m. – "Grimm"
10-11 p.m. – "Dateline NBC"

SUNDAY (Fall 2012)
7- 8:15 p.m. — "Football Night in America"
8:15-11:30 p.m. — "NBC Sunday Night Football"
SUNDAY (Post-football/Winter 2013)
7-8 p.m. – "Dateline NBC"
8-9 p.m. – "Fashion Star"
9-10 p.m. – "The Celebrity Apprentice"
10-11 p.m. – "DO NO HARM"

The best bit is Thursday at 10pm, which appears to be them deciding no-one will ever watch NBC at that time ever again.

I'm picturing a show where Brian Williams is teaching kids how to play Sweet Child o Mine on the guitar

I would watch a show with Brian Williams doing the schtick he does on 30 Rock.

For all I know, every single new show they're adding to the lineup could be fucking wonderful...but it doesn't matter, because no one even watches NBC anymore unless it's football, singers, Donald Trump and/or people losing weight.

weird they're not putting a single new show on thursdays. Up All Night is the only show of the 4 I can't imagine every potential TV viewer hasn't already decided whether they'll watch or not

also do they know they've got two single-cams about tv showrunners followed by two mockumentaries about bureaucracy

lol. kinda telling, isn't it?

many xps, NPH just tweeted that tonight's hour-long HIMYM season finale will reveal Barney's bride. There it is!

by the fall NBC will be begging Brian Williams to retool his newsmagazine so that it's primarily about his daughter masturbating

allison william's father is such a tool

^^

the trailer for revolution isn't half bad? out of all the crap abrams has produced since lost, it seems like the closest thing to lost, in that the pilot might be really good and the rest of the crap show will be intriguing enough to foster an annoying cult fandom. but NBC probably would've killed for lost's numbers so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfCRAtkYEI

also, PIRATES: http://www.avclub.com/articles/nbc-decides-you-might-also-like-a-show-about-pirat,74028/

See...based on the trailer, Revolution looks like high-concept done right (using the concept as backdrop, not foreground). I mean, that's something you can get a lot of mileage out of without having to constantly tease ill-developed "reveals" that ultimately disappoint. The less you have to rely on clicking puzzle pieces into place in order to propel the narrative, the better off you're gonna be. But it's entirely possible that I'm wrong and they'll actually go that highly-devalued route and crank out one convoluted season before turfing out. Time will tell.

many xps, NPH just tweeted that tonight's hour-long HIMYM season finale will reveal Barney's bride. There it is!

STFU SPOILERS

I can't even think of a pretend-science reason for electricity to stop working on the whole planet.

like unless all electricity in this show was being provided by some sort of glowing cube that some guy found and the electricity wirelessly transmitted to everybody and everybody who knew other ways of generating electricity died then the cube got sad and turned off

because otherwise uh no point in ever revealing why the electricity turns off, the right move is to just treat it like magic, there's even a special amulet

next 1,200 posts itt will be abt revolution

I mean come on do electrons stop moving but only in copper wire

does static electricity still exist in revolution?