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ilx is filled w/ gen x people which is important to remember when we look at the results + also among the better reasons to vote for gen x

Poll Results

OptionVotes
boomers 51
millenials 21
generation x 12
generation z 5
silent generation 4
greatest generation 2


iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

The boomers who weren't "disillusioned" enough by sixties hopes to join Richard Perle and Krauthammer on FOX are the best sub-generation of all.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.people-press.org/files/2011/11/11-3-11-17.png

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh god fuck my generation (labelled Reagan/Bush in iatee's graphic).

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

thank you for this thread iatee. i'm split between my true feeling (boomers are the worst) and my ilx spite which would force me to vote for gen x.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

I barely have any concept of where the lines are being drawn between the generations. I know I'm at the tail-end of gen x, but after that I'm lost.</befuddledoldman>

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

Generation Z (also known as Generation M (for multitasking), Generation C (for Connected Generation), the Net Generation, or the Internet Generation) is a common name in the US and other Western nations for the group of people born from the early to mid 1990s to 2010, with the earliest date starting in 1991.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24]

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

generally there's a new generation born every 20 years

Lost Generation: 1883-1900
Greatest Generation: 1901-1924
Silent Generation: 1925-1945
Boomers: 1946-1964
Gen X: 1965-~1970's
Gen Y: late ~1970's-2000
Generation Text: 2000-???

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

feel like they are g's for having so many wikipedia citations

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

this generation z thing sucks balls

akm, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, so now I'm generation y?! Stop moving the goalposts, National Organization of Generational Delineation!

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh god fuck my generation (labelled Reagan/Bush in iatee's graphic).

Ugh. Seconded. No wonder I left the country.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

I'm Gen X. Voted for Gen X coz fuck us guys.

we are not bemused (onimo), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

amazed u could summon up such self-disapproval between the lank hair in your eyes and deafening droning guitar noise in the background

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eS6isp7Uao

pplains, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

also every baby boomer seduced a secretary in a motel room, whether they can remember or not

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

every generation z person sexted their teacher

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

any generation where you could kick a ball in the st can't be considered too bad, where's that shit on the graph?

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, so now I'm generation y?! Stop moving the goalposts, National Organization of Generational Delineation!

― Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:21 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. Back in the early 90s, the definition of Gen X was 1960s through the early 1980s.

frogsclovetofu (beachville), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Emperor_Syndrome

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

What, 10-year-olds? I don't remember that (tho I am old)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him
In the living years

Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Boomers seem like such an obvious choice because there's never been a group of people who loved to talk about how wonderful they are as much as they continue to do.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

generally there's a new generation born every 20 years

Lost Generation: 1883-1900
Greatest Generation: 1901-1924
Silent Generation: 1925-1945
Boomers: 1946-1964
Gen X: 1965-~1970's
Gen Y: late ~1970's-2000
Generation Text: 2000-???

'lost generation' surely only ever retrospective. also lol 'silent generation', what the fuck america

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the 'president when you were eighteen' infogram is stupid, because (since we lack indisputable proof that eighteen is the year when political convictions were irrevocably formed, and has been this way the entire time anyone of voting age now has been alive) you could tell an entirely different story by shifting the goalposts - just take 'president when you were sixteen' or 'when you were twenty-one' as determining it instead

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

greatest generation is a really stupid term too, actually

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

no worst there is none

markers, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

greatest generation is a really stupid term too, actually

Blame Brokaw.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

i'm still in awe about the idiocy of the term 'silent generation', what on earth did the ppl born in those two decades think of being labeled with that

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

they kept schtum so we will never know

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

I voted millennials only for the reason that they're at that age when one begins publicly declaring one's gerneration exceptional. I don't actually have strong feelings about Gen Y, I just think discussions around generational taxonomy are insipid. Unfortunately, Gen Y are of the age that others are writing about them and they are writing about themselves.

i.e. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/generation-y-doesnt-exist-really-were-definitely-here/7106

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

this reminds me of this poll or article or something about 'the best footballers of the 2000s' which, unsurprisingly, was full of players born in the late 1970s who had their peak athletic years during the decade, but because of that happenstance they were especially great

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

the "silent generation" includes most of the countercultural artists the boomers think they're super revolutionary for having bought products by

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

Generation X/Y cusp here - October 1980. Most would probably put me in Y but I identify more with X. There's definitely a cultural/attitude shift in people only a year or two younger than me that I've noticed.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

Generation Z (also known as Generation M (for multitasking), Generation C (for Connected Generation), the Net Generation, or the Internet Generation) is a common name in the US and other Western nations for the group of people born from the early to mid 1990s to 2010, with the earliest date starting in 1991.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24]

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:18 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i refuse to believe that any of these people exist

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

i object to the terminology "generation y" by the way

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

how long has this generation-naming business been in effect? this is a late-20th-century thing, right? there are thousands of generations that haven't been named yet.

Let's get to naming.

(obv, these are generations of americans we've been talking about, and the further back you go, the more divergent experiences become.)

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

i refuse to be labelled as "the generation after x"

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

'Silent generation' comes from Nixon referring to a silent majority who weren't screaming hippies or McGovernites.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:01 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

&

i refuse to believe that any of these people exist

― max, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:04 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

there was once a time in history when generations lasted the length of a monarch's reign. much preferable imho.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

i won't let you fall
what you got to lose?
what you got to prove?
who you gonna screw down here?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

i hate all of the generations

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

Tbf, their generation, esp during the 60's was pretty epochal.

To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

For all of their excesses, I have tremendous respect/love for so much art of the '60s that I could never be dismissive of boomers (realizing, I guess, that some of that art was created by people of the previous generation or two). I'm biased towards my own sub-generation, the very end of that spectrum (I was born in '61): old enough to have fallen in love with the Beatles before they broke up, but young enough to be completely in sync with the stupider aspects of the '70s in a way that someone five or ten years older might not have been.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

epochal event refers to their parents not themselves

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

yet more boomer arrogation

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

but yeah, lumping people into generations always seems really bizarre to me. we should vote on which of the chinese year/animals is the worst. rooster, rooster, rooster!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

the actually machers of the 1960s were not some twenty yr olds from liverpool or haight in any case

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

I was born in 1979 and I was the guy who screamed at my dad every time he called freshman year until he stopped calling me. I never moved back home other than a single summer. My brother, born 1984, still lives at home. I'm sure this in part reflects economic circumstances -- find a job that pays the rent is a dicier proposition starting out now. If it's generational in any other way, I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but it does seem curious.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah man for real I wld much rather have a student w/a helicopter parent than the mom I tried to call the other day whose voicemail message said, "If you're trying to get hold of me, I don't give a fuck." ;_;

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

TBH though I'm sometimes not sure if the benefits are so great. Ok, so I'm my own man. I'm the protagonist of my own boring story. So what.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

I talk to my Mum at least once a week via email and maybe every 2 weeks/or at least once a month via skype...but that's more bcs of being away. But if I leaved nearby I'm sure I would spend a lot of time with them. Hell my sister is only a few years younger and she probably drops in on Mum & dad every day.

And it's not so much that they expect it, or ask us to do that. It's more that they *allow* it? or they've set up a pretty open, friendly kind of dynamic where it's not an obligation, it's just something we all want to do. We like being home, it's nice to sit down and have a cup of tea or dinner with them.

and at least with my own parents we can go a while without much contact and it's still cool. it's pretty nice.

but maybe that's not quite what that article is talking about, so maybe this is tl:dr haha

My inlaws are a little more needy, and definitely ask Mr Veg to come over for dinner pretty much every Sunday. But it's still a very pleasant thing, it doesn't seem that unhealthy to me.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

leaved? lived!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Her seminar paper had been unimpressive: Indeed it was one of those for which the epithet "gobsmackingly incoherent" might seem to have been invented.

it would probably be impossible to keep anyone capable of writing this sentence far enough away from a position teaching literature

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

Don't see how you can teach Richardson and not love the gobsmackingly incoherent.
OH RICHARDSON BURN

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno, whenever i use "gobsmackingly incoherent" i feel like maybe the scenario isn't gobsmacking or incoherent enough, so i sort of get it

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

My experience kind of relates to Hurting's -- I stayed at my parents' place over some college summers to (presumably) save cash, though, and relied on them in a tough situation a couple times since. But when I wasn't directly in their home, I probably talked to my parents once or twice a week for most of my 20s. When I was in college, it was even less often -- I think I'd go a couple weeks between phone calls, sometimes.

The situation and dynamic is a lot different, but my sister (born 1984) and mom are like best friends and talk multiple times daily. They were both going through some mediocre times when my sister was in her late teens and kind of bonded and have been close since.

I think it has a lot more to do with our different personalities and situations, but it's interesting that I was born in '81 and my sister in '84 and that's around the time of part of the millenial split according to some.

mh, Monday, 7 May 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

"gobsmackingly incoherent" is kind of the perfect way to smack down a phd paper

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

(she is referring to a phd student in that paragraph)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

i would like to see an article asking parents of millenials how often they talk to their adult children and why

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

i'm so glad there were no cell phones when i was in high school and university

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

Before he moved to Maryland, my brother saw my parents (socially, I see my dad daily since we work together) way more than I do. I have nothing against them, but I don't feel a need to share my private life or go out of my way to eat dinner at 5:15, etc.. (brother born in '75, me '81)

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

which could well be because I have to see at least one of them on the daily

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

I live about three miles from my parents. We speak about twice a week and it's been a habit since my niece was born (Mom babysits her) to stop by after work for at least an hour to hang out with Mom and her before sis picks her up. I'll usually stay long enough for a drink.

My parents aren't my bros but we enjoy each other's company -- more so the older I've gotten and our time together turns into the center of an hourglass. It isn't at all unusual for my friends' parents to know each other either.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

stuffing the ballot box for millenials tnite

Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

voted boomers, but then i went thrift store record shopping and felt the overwhelming urge to stick it to the greatest generation for filling the bins with terrible MOR soundtrack and ''sing along with mitch/guy/erma/andy/jim'' LPs, this is a staggering burden and we will never be truly rid of it all. on the other hand i also flipped through the trivial pursuit ''boomer edition'' and felt better. silent generation looking pretty good in all this, i think.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

silent generation have been yelling at the kids to get off the lawn for like 40 years

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

not so silent now, huh?

dad is a war baby and mom was one of the good boomers, fuck everybody before and after them basically although i am all right by my fellow explorers and the earlier explorers part two have rarely let me down

also DJP,

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/112236-107326-generation-x_super.JPG

^^^ pretty sure this was one of the first comics available on the futuristic millenial INTERNET, as enormous high-res GIFs of the first few pages, at least i remember my dad being really pleased that he'd downloaded it for me, although it even further muddied the waters of who or what could be considered "generation x"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot that it had an online preview thingy! Think that the X actually means something there, though

mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

they've won again!

DG, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

wow, commanding victory there boomers

Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

I thought that entire issue of GenX was available online. I remember trying to access it thru my new university ftp account, as I got my student access the same august/sept it went live.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 18 May 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

when they came for the boomers, etc.

mookieproof, Friday, 18 May 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

Hah Greatest Generation still the greatest! I did my part to do them in. Thanks for the 50 years of nuclear terror & anti-socialist propoganda, guys.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

xp - there were lots of horror movies on the subject

sarahell, Friday, 18 May 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

Hah Greatest Generation still the greatest! I did my part to do them in. Thanks for the 50 years of nuclear terror & anti-socialist propoganda, guys.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:18 PM Bookmark

To be fair, wasn't most of this the work of Lost Generation or older? eg:

MacArthur born 1880
J. Edgar Hoover born 1895
Dulles brothers born 1888, 1893
Dean Rusk born 1909
Ronald Reagan born 1911
McNamara born 1916
JFK born 1917
Alexander Haig born 1924
etc., etc.

Not sure about Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray, South Pacific, Walter Winchell, or Joe DiMaggio.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

eh, it's not so much the people in power as much as the giant group that kept them in place

mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

ehh, i dunno - - "It's not so much the people who systematically misled the population, as it was the population that was systematically misled"

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

oh, sure, if you want to act like trusting authority is a good norm

mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

There are always assholes in power and they are probably from a generation. Everybody will get their chance!

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

My theory of boomer resentment is that the children of boomers hate the boomers because the boomers raised them with expectations of a boomer life -- just do what you love and somehow magically make a great living doing it. It's the crushing disappointment that led to the bitterness.

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

my dad somehow has the anxious "most work hard at your job, must always have a job, must keep shit together" mentality despite being a boomer. I don't know that this necessarily served me well, since... well, that mentality works well in 2012 but I think I actually was taught an even more paranoid mentality than our time requires?

mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/info-02-2011/many_boomers_report_no_savings_at_all.html

well, enjoy paying for their retirement:

"A poll released Wednesday found that a whopping 25 percent of people ages 46 to 64 say they have no retirement savings — and 26 percent have no personal savings."

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

and being continually underemployed b/c the boomers are too broke to retire.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 04:46 (eleven years ago) link

wtff

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

The time is ripe for Generation Banaka

― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:40 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

your native bacon (mh), Friday, 10 August 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

so u say u want banakalution / well, you know, we all want to be uploaded into the singularity

Mordy, Friday, 10 August 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

fulled formed adult banaka units

your native bacon (mh), Friday, 10 August 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

boomers.

coffin on the dancefloor (boy_slayer), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

FXX is just asking for lols

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

i guess my children will be watching FXXX some day

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

and their web channel FXXX YOU

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

the relatable, eternally depressing existence of the aged

j., Friday, 18 January 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/16/millennials_will_save_us/

Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link


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