yeah I drove through either NH or VT on my way to montreal once and it was a really beautiful state
CT, otoh, well I'm only familiar with southern CT but it's pretty blah
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
*looks out window* its p nice
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
texas is pretty outstanding. fla is terrible. not as bad as AZ, which admittedly has tucson and good scenery but not much else.
― omar little, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
I still think it's hilaire that NJ has the highest population density out of all the states, despite having no major cities, america is just so big man
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
arizona is amazing for the natural beauty alone
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
if you were going ct>mtl that wouldve been vt dayo
arizona has steve nash. he'll probably be in florida next year tho
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
I was going PA -> montreal xp
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
Alaska 1.264 inhabitants per square mile
― omar little, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
i would like to visit alaska
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
remember crossing some cool bridges, very cool, would cross again
a rerun of the 30 rock episode "i heart connecticut" is coming on comedy central in a few minutes, as it happens
― some dude, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:46 AM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
new york state? p short detour to vt tho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:47 AM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark
it's all coming back to me... I think we had to pick somebody up in springfield MA so we went a little more easterward - if that's true, then we probably drove through VT
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
yep
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
The old run up 91 to 89 to Montreal. Good times.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
not as bad as AZ, which admittedly has tucson and good scenery but not much else.
― omar little, Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:44 AM (33 minutes ago)
Tucson is great and I dig living here but it's not some kind of oasis from the issues the rest of Arizona is facing. Por ejemplo, Tucson Unified School District has been part of a desegregation case since 1978:
In 1978, plaintiffs Mendoza and Fisher were told that TUSD would be required to remedy the ill effects of past segregation within the district. They could not have known that their fight for equality was only just beginning. What was initially presented as a five-year desegregation plan stretched into 30 years. In 2009 TUSD was granted unified status and released from court supervision despite the court finding it had “failed to act in good faith in its ongoing operation of the District under the Settlement Agreement.”TUSD began operating under its Post-Unitary Status Plan, which promised that the district’s MAS program would be expanded. TUSD did support the existing MAS program, but it failed to follow through on its promise of expansion. Because TUSD also abandoned other important policies outlined in the plan, the court revoked the district’s unified status in 2011, saying it had failed to act in good-faith compliance with the order to integrate schools-yet again.
TUSD began operating under its Post-Unitary Status Plan, which promised that the district’s MAS program would be expanded. TUSD did support the existing MAS program, but it failed to follow through on its promise of expansion. Because TUSD also abandoned other important policies outlined in the plan, the court revoked the district’s unified status in 2011, saying it had failed to act in good-faith compliance with the order to integrate schools-yet again.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, it was originally filed by the NAACP in 1974.1974!
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
A few Florida highlights: Gulf coast beaches and towns, the Everglades in winter, the giant Bryan Ferry poster in my living room.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry to anyone who lives there but the only time I ever went to Arkansas (Little Rock) it really seemed like a bad alternate dimension.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
i drove through some v beautiful places in arkansas once, missouri tho seems like it might be p bad
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I thought arkansas was pretty
― iatee, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
oklahoma is the real wasteland
― iatee, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
I also heard that Florida was crazy but it was the panhandle were all the bad craziness went on
xp
OK has Tulsa & OK City and a buncha great Route 66 stuff still
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
i spent like a week in okla once including drive clear across it, it has some character imho, i still vote missouri, the show me state is def our most repugnant state motto
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
That corner of OK, Arkansas and Missouri is quite pretty. Driving through the Ozarks down to Fayetteville and across to Tulsa was a joy.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
You can always find something good to say about any shitty state.
― Jeff, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
its true connecticut has many beautiful things too
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
I think I posted this on another thread, but a point in Oklahoma City's favor is the street named after Charlie Christian:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/df/CharlieChristianAve.JPG/220px-CharlieChristianAve.JPG
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Alfred, what are the Everglades like during the winter? What are the best gulf coast towns iyo?
― dell (del), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
I adore Sanibel and Captiva islands. Tarpon Springs too.
The Everglades are much cooler in January. I would not recommend a nature walk or air boat in July.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
Would like to hear more about this. Not as a defensive citizen of the LR Metro, but as a fan of bad alternate dimensions.
And Abbott, if you think Tucson's bad for having a deseg crisis more than 35 years old, our school district is still in the courts over 1957. Which is really weird because as the Little Rock School District tries to keep itself as close to 50/50 b/w, it offers this "majority-to-minority" rule where white kids from other districts can go to LR schools since LR schools are more like 60/40 black. Works out for my family.
I've only been to the NE once, a round-trip from NYC to Bennington, VT, to Concord, NH, to Portland, ME back to Boston, Providence and CT. CT just looked like one big suburb to me and it didn't help that my only stop was at a Friendly's for dinner.
― pplains, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Can i just say here how much I hate that red state/blue state designation? It always confuses me 'cause here in Canada "red" = Liberal & "blue" = Conservative.
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda think Conservatives got the better color. You want to be RED or do you want to be ~blue~ ;_;.
* Post cold war, obv
― pplains, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
Florida has a few things going for it, as does Texas. OK for the win (lose).
You know what state I know nothing about? Idaho. What's the deal with Idaho?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
Xpost most of populated America looks like a strip mall. The prettiest places are the ones with no people.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
The state with the prettiest name,the state that floats in brackish water,held together by mangrave rootsthat bear while living oysters in clusters,and when dead strew white swamps with skeletons,dotted as if bombarded, with green hummockslike ancient cannon-balls sprouting grass.The state full of long S-shaped birds, blue and white,and unseen hysterical birds who rush up the scaleevery time in a tantrum.Tanagers embarrassed by their flashiness,and pelicans whose delight it is to clown;who coast for fun on the strong tidal currentsin and out among the mangrove islandsand stand on the sand-bars drying their damp gold wingson sun-lit evenings.Enormous turtles, helpless and mild,die and leave their barnacled shells on the beaches,and their large white skulls with round eye-socketstwice the size of a man's.The palm trees clatter in the stiff breezelike the bills of the pelicans. The tropical rain comes downto freshen the tide-looped strings of fading shells:Job's Tear, the Chinese Alphabet, the scarce Junonia,parti-colored pectins and Ladies' Ears,arranged as on a gray rag of rotted calico,the buried Indian Princess's skirt;with these the monotonous, endless, sagging coast-lineis delicately ornamented.
Thirty or more buzzards are drifting down, down, down,over something they have spotted in the swamp,in circles like stirred-up flakes of sedimentsinking through water.Smoke from woods-fires filters fine blue solvents.On stumps and dead trees the charring is like black velvet.The mosquitoesgo hunting to the tune of their ferocious obbligatos.After dark, the fireflies map the heavens in the marshuntil the moon rises.Cold white, not bright, the moonlight is coarse-meshed,and the careless, corrupt state is all black speckstoo far apart, and ugly whites; the poorestpost-card of itself.After dark, the pools seem to have slipped away.The alligator, who has five distinct calls:friendliness, love, mating, war, and a warning--whimpers and speaks in the throatof the Indian Princess.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
― pplains, Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:11 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wth were u doin
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost Well depression's no fun, but neither is anger, really. Kinda never cared for either red nor blue overmuch, as far as apolitical nonemotional colo(u)r preference goes. GREEN ftw! (Coincidentally how I voted last election too, lol)
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe not even a suburb, CT. I'm used to miles and miles of access roads with Best Buys and Texas Roadhouses. Those are a blight, sure.
But in CT, I felt like I was driving past miles and miles of fenced backyards and overpasses barely 12 feet tall.
I looked it up - I was on the Merritt Parkway. Not saying it was ugly, just amazing that it never felt once like I was out of the burbs, especially after a week of driving around Vermont, NH and Maine.
― pplains, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
chick in portland, but that's neither here nor there.
― pplains, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
oh ha i thought u meant u drove between all those places and only stopped at friendlies
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
merritt pkwy is a quality road imho, no trucks allowed
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
merrit parkway is awesome
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
such a stark contrast to 95
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know, I was on tour and we only spent a day or so. I got off a bus in downtown Little Rock on a Saturday night in the summertime and the whole way in the place was just eerily unpopulated. Nobody, absolutely nobody, was walking around, hanging out, or anything at all. When we got out of the bus there was one old guy that stepped out of a video store and told us we were in the middle of nowhere. All the kids we met were real nice and it was fun, but everyone seemed to have kind of given up in general or something. I don't know, weird vibes.
But yeah basing a perception on a state on one day's experience with a dozen or so locals. Kinda silly.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:32 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it doesnt have the malls n casual dining chains cause it parallels 95 where they all are
― lag∞n, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, downtown N/LR can give off a "Night of the Comet" vibe sometimes. I hear ya.
I took Merritt to get off of 95. Just didn't realize that it wasn't a backroad, I guess.
One of my favorite vacations. Drove up to Brooklyn. Took the really long way to Portland. Had an interesting time which included a cameo appearance by 80s rock band The Tubes. Drove too quickly back through Boston/RI/CT and back to NYC.
Then back home where Tennessee really is the longest state east of the Mississippi.
― pplains, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
vt is legit beautiful ime although nh is kinda w/e it still has a more authentic new england backwoods charm. i grew up in a really lovely part of ct but its unrelentingly square and ersatz colonial
― Lamp, Friday, April 27, 2012 10:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nh is so much more raw than vt, maybe not as bucolic but the most scenic parts owne
whites >>> greens, fuiud
― catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
racist
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link