also adam's a dickhead i hope he gets run over by a truck
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
Desi and Marnie are both horrible awful people who deserve to be trapped in an apartment arguing about whether or not they are like She & Him imo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link
marnie isn't so bad. she is just superficial in all ways.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
i don't really want to watch hannah try to become a teacher though. seems like it's going to be ridiculous/brutal
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link
marnie isn't so bad. she is just superficial in all ways.― Treeship, Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Treeship, Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
How is that not bad?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
i mean, there's bad and there's bad. hannah and especially jessa are narcissistic to the point of delusion and this has had disastrous consequences for other people in their lives. marnie is comparatively harmless. she is narcissistic in a way that strikes me as adolescent-like.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
we all know marnies, i'm sure. they're just like, people who see their lives as a really shallow movie that they are obsessed with interpreting and reinterpreting
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
Ok, fair enough. I guess she isn't as vengeful or spiteful as Hannah/Jessa are. Still pretty narcissistic tho.
― schwantz, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:01 (nine years ago) link
i love Shosh. butdussy.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link
"harvard grad makes good, what an inspiring story!"
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link
Lollll
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:09 (nine years ago) link
Elijah also had good lines "I had just put a bid in on 16 acres"
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:11 (nine years ago) link
I love how Elijah constantly spouts all this really weird shit that is amusing in its zaniness and then completely falls apart when you imagine Elijah as a character actually following through w/ these things off camera
Like I don't mean that as a critique, I just enjoy it. It's like there's a secret ~productive~ Elijah running around
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
Doesn't it seem odd how few characters there are on the show (any?) who aren't completely narcissistic and self-obsessed?
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
I can't think of one
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
Laird maybe
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
those are the defining traits for mid-20 yr olds so, no
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
it's funny, i didn't get on board with the show until i took it as a sloppy collection of moments that are tonally inconsistent and regularly undercut established character work that still manages to be amusing and occasionally cutting for 30 minutes, like they made a soap opera out of the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie. so it couldn't really go haywire or down the wrong road unless i stopped enjoying the actors.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
ike they made a soap opera out of the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie.
holy. shit.
this is such a brilliant summary.
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
i also watch the show to learn new annoyed sounds from adam that i can make during my commute
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
stop fucking murdering buñuel you charlatans
― vacuum head tree disease (imago), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
Lena Duñuel
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Watched a few episodes of S4 last night, I think the first scene I've actually enjoyed of this show was Dunham's takedown of her fellow MFAs.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
croup otm
SO otm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
rattlesnake cowgirlheart for salewhoa wow wonderfulsong for marcus garveyoaxaca blueskokopeli shelly
that's top six right there
― slam dunk, Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:02 (nine years ago) link
loooool
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link
desi is the worst. so perfectly, punchably realized
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link
Haha I know. As awful and overblown as these characters seem sometimes, I have met all of them (except Shosh! Who is the best anyway) to a tee in real life, and I still have a hard time believing they exist like that.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
yeah like they are broad strokes caricatures but the tiny details are well-observed enough to make them seem somehow familiar
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link
i'm a year behind, like Gaby Hoffmann as Adam's batshit mess sister
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:58 (nine years ago) link
she's so good
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 05:06 (nine years ago) link
Loved this week's abortion plotline and the Adam/Mimi-Rose relationship in general.
Desi is the magnificent worst. His misplaced snobbery about She & Him was perfect.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 26 February 2015 10:09 (nine years ago) link
back to s3: Ray-Marnie ridiculous as a zipless fuck, let alone a couple for any length of time. Sub-Dawson's Creek.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
tho it does recall Judy Tenuta's line "Did you ever start dating someone, instead of committing suicide?"
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
ok, the second half of the third season got a LOT better. The biggest shocker was that Shoshanna bacame more than a cartoon (or a deeper one). She was great drunkenly ripping everyone to shreds in the Beach House ep, and then incredibly moving making her plea to Ray in the finale. Z Mamet has my respect.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 February 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link
she's kind of my favourite character in s4
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Friday, 27 February 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link
definitely
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
and then incredibly moving making her plea to Ray in the finale.
agree that this was one of the few moments in this show that felt emotionally real, almost to a disturbing degree
― Οὖτις, Friday, 27 February 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Mixed feelings about Girls (and S4). Notably not enjoying this season (so far) as much as others; considering giving up on it.
Yet I do want to give Dunham credit for something I'm not sure has been much discussed. There's a lot of cartoonishness in Girls. But (in all seasons) the depiction of male/ female sexual relationships has a surprising complexity, nuance, even courage. (Much of the charge of the previous seasons is the unfolding complexity of Hannah's and Adam's relationship.)
E.g. abortion in last episode. No matter how one as tv watcher reacted to the early scene (whether you feel Adam is the asshole or Mimi-Rose is the asshole; the dress is blue-black or white-gold), the episode was fair to and acknowledged both deeply felt and authentic positions.
It's ironic because Dunham's IRL messiness (e.g. memoir-ed alleged Republican rapist or sister pebbles-- on which topics I haven't read ILX) provoked opposed extreme reactions. But while (I think) Dunham is probably IRL an asshole; her fiction is nuanced and complex and (even against certain politically correct supposed "SJW" "feminist" preconceptions) brave-- just in conveying a descriptive (not prescriptive) experience from both male and female perspectives.
NB not that it makes any difference but I'm an XX female.
― drash, Saturday, 28 February 2015 07:56 (nine years ago) link
PS If I had to pick a "side," I'd pick Mimi-Rose. But I was also completely empathetic to Adam's POV.
I think this is an admirable skill for an author/ creator (what Bakhtin calls polyphony).
― drash, Saturday, 28 February 2015 11:30 (nine years ago) link
lol everyone in this show is so batshit
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:31 (nine years ago) link
mimi rose giving that laundromat woman the poem was so eyerollingly lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 05:16 (nine years ago) link
Elijah again w the best lolz
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
this was one of the funniest episodes in a while for me. the taxi scenes (both ace and mimi's) were absorbing, and the whole laundromat conversation on artistry lol. it hits on a lot of things at once that people are thinking but not talking about. dunham's characters are like caricatures grounded in reality. ace is fucking absurd but you know (or at least can expect) he exists.
― nose, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
have I successfully avoided it somehow or does this show not generate as much thinkpiece-ry as it used to?
― ryan, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
it's moment def seems to have passed (ceded ground to Broad City I guess?)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
it's pretty boring / not very good / been on for four years / ratings are the lowest they've ever been / dunham isn't really writing the episodes anymore
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
http://headlineplanet.com/home/2015/02/18/ratings-girls-togetherness-hit-new-viewership-low-marks/
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
bummed that Looking is doing so poorly; that thing is a jewel
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link