GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

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So it seemed like a few people on ILX did not like Tiny Furniture, but I did, I like Lena and I am really anticipating GIRLS. No doubt we'll talk about all this here as we anticipate the show and all try to look smart (I'm smart, btw).

killa amc (admrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess we can talk about this too: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/lena-dunham-weight_n_1321414.html

Obviously that story itself is not interesting or special (jn fact it is idiotic), but it does raise some larger questions worth considering although goodness knows we should be more evolved than this by now

killa amc (admrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wanna be appalled? go to the criterion forum and read the Tiny Furniture thread. Total fanboy meltdown.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok i just read a few pages of this^ and suddenly i want to become her biggest champion

althea and (donna rouge), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

(i haven't seen anything she's done tho)

althea and (donna rouge), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

still haven't seen tiny furniture; need to get on that. read two paragraphs of that story about the complaint about her weight. couldn't read any further.

horseshoe, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

criterion fandorks who complain about WHY ARE THEY RELEASING X FILM AND NOT Y?!?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE = shut up shut up shut up you are the fucking worst

althea and (donna rouge), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't really care for Tiny Furniture on the whole. Lena Dunham seemed like someone who's talented but (unsurprisingly) a little too solipsistic to adequately wield her talent. I'll give her show a shot in the hope that she's matured a bit.

Arnold Drummond, Process Server (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tiny furniture is one of those movies with about zero sympathetic characters. And I really couldn't figure out if I was actually supposed to think that or not.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked Tiny Furniture and am looking forward to this show.

polyphonic, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree completely, chinavision. And I think Dunham was at least canny enough for that to have been intentional. I just don't think she was canny enough to make the overall experience appealing or thought-provoking enough for me to like the film.

Arnold Drummond, Process Server (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I do want to give her props on a number of fronts. I just can't give her props for cohering those fronts into a particularly good movie.

Arnold Drummond, Process Server (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

totally dug tiny furniture

max, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i sympathized with most of the characters in tiny furniture? i mean they did a lot of stupid shit but no one was really hateful, besides i guess the two guys.

max, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm seriously hyped about this; she's way funnier and more clever than she has any right to be.

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i also got a little crush on her y cuz she's smart

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Watched Tiny Furniture on the weekend. It's the kind of thing i normally hate but she won me over by the end.

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

tiny furniture is pretty interesting. i thought it would be funny but kinda frothy, and instead i thought it said some pretty interesting things, way more than it was an amusing film. like (SPOILERS, I GUESS) the more it committed to refusing the sweet narrative arc you'd expect to unkink & take over - her remembering how lovely Frankie was, or arriving at some kind of agreeable romantic situation - the more it seemed like good, lacerating, self-loathing criticism of dumb, shortsighted early life blundering.

the nyer profile from a while back is good reading also

john-claude van donne (schlump), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

just watched 'tiny furniture' and was surprised by how much i (and especially my gf) enjoyed it.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

the pipe scene was the clincher

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, agreed.
the pat on the thigh from spent dude was just painfully real.

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i channel surfed through Tiny Furniture for a few minutes recently and could barely stand it, the direction/acting was like kevin smith-level bad

ferrante's inferranteno (some dude), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

"In the street?"
"No, worse than that"

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dunham is curating a mini-fest where i work called Hey, girlfriend. bummed i missed mulholland drive last night (one of her picks)

surm, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

at least i have seen it on the big screen b4 tho

surm, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

twice actually!

surm, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't seen any of her stuff, she's doing several days of film 'presenting' at BAM, tonight w/ Whit Stillman.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i sympathized with most of the characters in tiny furniture?

haha me too

i saw one of the episodes on the weekend it was... idk, im p excited to watch them properly but it was a bit of a mess. theres a lot of ambivalence in general i guess

Lamp, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tiny Furniture was horrific but she might do okay in a TV format. As long as she's not directing.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

oops hey i missed surm's posts, sorry.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

some dude OTM about Tiny Furniture's filmmaking, but I also can't find it in myself to give a shit about the problems of an educated rich kid in this hard hard world of moving back into the 'rents multimillion dollar loft.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

still going to give Girls a shot, maybe there will be characters who aren't hateable

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think she's more self-aware than people who offer that criticism realize

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think she is sorta cute and seems fun and smart

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

"WKIW", as I believe you say

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like the scene where she has the big argument with her mother and she's all "I'm 22 and i just graduated and i got my first job". I have to believe that was somewhat tongue in cheek

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it was, or that the entire movie was one big self-aware joke at the expense of overprivileged twentysomethings... but I'm not sure that it would improve things had that been her intention.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like how the friend from ohio felt like a protagonist that wandered in from some other (slightly more conventional) movie

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's another thing. She tells her friend a day before she moves to New York that she's not going to move in with her, avoids all her calls, blows her off at the art thing cos that dude turns up etc. It has to be a joke, right?

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk it's all part & parcel of being an actual horrible, spoiled 20-something

johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

the character, not lena i mean

johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think there was a degree of self-awareness on display in Tiny Furniture, but probably not the degree of self-awareness that she might've had if she'd waited a couple more years to make it.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Which is a lot of why I'm open to Girls being more "my thing".

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

its not a "joke" but it is "self-aware"

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah but she didn't. She made it when she was like 23/24 and it's pretty much ABOUT being that age.

xxp

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, she was self-aware enough to not portray her character as a completely sympathetic protagonist (see: the treatment of her friend from Ohio) but I don't know that she was as aware of her character's/her own level of privilege as I would've liked.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's certainly no less self-aware than you might hope/expect given the age and status of the filmmaker.

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Why does she have to apologize to you for being rich

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

her bursting in like that didn't really make any sense though

Number None, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

I liked the crate of "ADAM'S CREEPY SHIT" in Ray's apt

, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

scene was weird. it didnt seem clear that she was trying to get fired, really. kinda seemed like she was just being a brat with no aim in mind. like, obv she was going to be fired, but she didnt express relief when it happened, really - and there was no real gearing up for it. it just flowed weird imo

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:38 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Yeah I think you're supposed to read it as Hannah expressing her anxieties over her relaysh that were amplified by meeting with Lippone, suicide-by-WAKE-UP-SHEEPLE, but the scene didn't flow well at all

, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

i liked how she got tongue tied and made up a word -- i think it was "squanderation" -- in the course of a rant about her important literary gifts.

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 00:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

please. LuPone.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 00:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

Who is that

, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 00:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

A very famous singer and actress.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 00:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

it didnt seem clear that she was trying to get fired,

she wasn't consciously, this was desperate self-justification after the fact

Charles, hatless (sic), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 01:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah that makes sense. wtf WAS she doing tho

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 01:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

having a mini breakdown/verbal diarrhea i guess

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 01:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah thats the way i pictured it

waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 01:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol'd so hard at the role play episode, like holy shit

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 02:01 (1 month ago) Permalink

I keep thinking abt her husband Marfaniel and how he became Jardin like 20 seconds later

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 12:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

This woman is fucking brilliant

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 12:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

Still think this has been p easily their best season.

Simon H., Wednesday, 19 March 2014 13:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

yup

waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 13:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

wink wink kissy face puppy on a pony/he texted mad emojis what he really means is blow me

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

^^^

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

I really like this show, but I skip past all musical performances in embarrassment, especially the rapping white chick

Dan I., Wednesday, 19 March 2014 22:04 (1 month ago) Permalink

"i can't believe she isnt signed yet"

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 22:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

her backstage triumph, marnie trembling. good marnie work this ep imo. also loved this face:

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 22:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

I keep thinking abt her husband Marfaniel and how he became Jardin like 20 seconds later

this reminded me of the bit in the tank girl movie where tank girl keeps changing jet girl's fake lavish model name while undercover as a fashion photographer

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 22:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

OMG HOW THE FUCK DID I NOT NOTICE THAT THE ARTIST IN THE LAST EPISODE WAS LOUISE FUCKING LASSER?!?!?

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

girls is hilarious too though. hannah storming into ray's bedroom saying "everything's my business" was lol

― Treeship, Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:58 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

her bursting in like that didn't really make any sense though

― Number None, Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:10 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


this bothered me too, & the only rational explanation I can think of is that the events of this episode have caused to fall back on her identity of 'confessional writer/boundary-averse snoop'

Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

+ she was probly a little drunk too

Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

I really like this show, but I skip past all musical performances in embarrassment, especially the rapping white chick

― Dan I., Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:04 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i can't believe she isnt signed yet"

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:06 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


my GF was like "I actually really like this song!"
it took all my self-control not to get up, walk out the door, and never call her again

Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

i liked how she got tongue tied and made up a word -- i think it was "squanderation" -- in the course of a rant about her important literary gifts.

― Treeship, Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:00 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


"squanderization"—I actually repeated "squanderization?!" in disbelief, then was like "yessss" when her coworker called her on it a second later

Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

I think that a cameo appearance by Jim Florentine of VH1 Classic's That Metal Show was literally the thing i would least expect on Girls, so good job Lena!

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah that was pretty random

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

this bothered me too, & the only rational explanation I can think of is that the events of this episode have caused to fall back on her identity of 'confessional writer/boundary-averse snoop'

― Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Friday, March 21, 2014 5:15 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i think this is what's going on with her and it's in character. i think she is aware of the social norms she violates; part of it is an entitlement thing i think. i think hannah has unusually high confidence levels.

Treeship, Friday, 21 March 2014 22:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

OMG HOW THE FUCK DID I NOT NOTICE THAT THE ARTIST IN THE LAST EPISODE WAS LOUISE FUCKING LASSER?!?!?

FUCK BINGO LET'S COMPASSION (stevie), Friday, 21 March 2014 22:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

^^^^^ meant to type, 'seconded'

FUCK BINGO LET'S COMPASSION (stevie), Friday, 21 March 2014 22:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

I think she burst into the bedroom cause she recognized Marnie's voice in the moaning?

, Friday, 21 March 2014 23:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah, that's what i assumed

FUCK BINGO LET'S COMPASSION (stevie), Friday, 21 March 2014 23:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

I hope I never know what my friends' sex sounds are like.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 22 March 2014 04:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

she strongly suspected/feared it was marnie and had to find out

remember like 1 episode ago when marnie revealed she had a secret she "couldn't tell" hannah

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Saturday, 22 March 2014 06:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

I feel like an entire Seinfeld episode could have been based around "recognizing a friend's sex sounds"

Many American citizens are literally paralyzed by (bernard snowy), Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

Um...so is this how Hannah/Lena is going to get herself out of the show?

I know she said in an interview that she wanted to be in front of the camera less, because she has more fun writing/producing/directing or something?

, Monday, 24 March 2014 03:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

Really enjoyed her interview on WTF. I'd really love to watch this show someday.

how's life, Monday, 24 March 2014 11:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

Jessa's storyline was heartbreaking as is, so I can't imagine how good it would be if it didn't revolve around a character that was introduced one episode prior to the finale.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 24 March 2014 14:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

next season will open w jessa on trial for attmpted murder

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

shosh <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 01:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

next season will open w jessa on trial for attmpted murder

― johnny crunch, Monday, March 24, 2014 9:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, totally. Even though I disapprove of what she did this is the first episode that made me feel sympathetic toward Jessa. She was doing what seemed to her to be the right thing at a huuuge risk to herself.

très hip (Treeship), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 00:39 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

THE ARTIST IN THE LAST EPISODE WAS LOUISE FUCKING LASSER?!?!?

Dunham is pals w/ all of Woody's exes cept Keaton, huh

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 03:19 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

lena dunham was hanging outside the movie theater as i came in yesterday. much skinnier and cuter in person.

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 04:53 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

tbf, that's likely what she would say about me if her primary introduction to me was seeing me naked on tv every weekend

We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 04:54 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

That was a great thing to say about her forks

, Friday, 28 March 2014 09:46 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

This season was really great.

ronnie waitrose (stevie), Friday, 28 March 2014 10:10 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

It verged on unwatchable for me in the middle episodes but the last four really pulled things out of the fire. Best run the show has had

Number None, Friday, 28 March 2014 10:26 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

I definitely watched a number of Marnie's scenes through my fingers. Not because they were bad but because she behaves so awfully.

ronnie waitrose (stevie), Friday, 28 March 2014 10:47 (4 weeks ago) Permalink


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