Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

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considering it's on takimag

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taki's_Magazine

dayo, Friday, 6 April 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

I'm reeling from that article still. Sort of sorry I posted it (sorry I ever read it or saw it for sure). It's just that there's no codewords or anything. It's just pure racism. Basically no different than those klan types gawker reported on the other day. Usually you expect some room for plausible deniability or whatever. All the things that ppl sort of half-joke about getting said behind closed doors -- he just comes out and says them all. It's very depressing.

yeah, I was actually taken aback by its brazenness. lol cloistered liberal I guess

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 6 April 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

*wonders if derbyshire owns toe shoes*

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Friday, 6 April 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

maybe that's why he almost got shot one time?

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Friday, 6 April 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

i'm assuming he "almost got shot" in the same sense that george zimmerman "almost got shot"

so glad you guys are finally getting on board the taki magazine train, its my favorite source of non-NRO derb garbage and gavin mcinnes wonderful brand of "hey bro im just sayin" *pulls imaginary whistle* toot toot!

max, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

taki more like tacky!

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, the train too

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

i said this somewhere on ilx but takimag is like someone wanted to run a dull airport/society mag but then have everyone be racist

goole, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, its really jarring

max, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

theres something funny about them hiring mcinnes though, like that basically if you get fired from anywhere for being a racist shit, dont worry, taki mag is there

max, Friday, 6 April 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

Taki Theodoracopulos (Greek: Τάκης Θεοδωρακόπουλος; born August 11, 1937),[1] originally named Panagiotis Theodoracopulos is a Greek/American journalist, socialite, and political commentator.
Better known as Taki, diminutive for Panagiotis, he is a Greek-born journalist and writer living in New York City, London and Switzerland. In addition to his 1991 memoir Nothing to Declare (about his life as a "playboy" and his experience spending three months in jail for drug conviction, during which time he received a bottle of vaseline from a friend of his), his column "High Life" has appeared in The Spectator since 1977,[2] and he has also written for National Review, the London Sunday Times, Esquire, Vanity Fair, the New York Press, and Quest, among others. In 2002 Taki founded The American Conservative magazine with Pat Buchanan and Scott McConnell. He was also publisher of the British magazine Right Now!. He currently publishes and writes for Taki's Magazine, a Libertarian webzine of "politics and culture", which features contributions from writers such as Steve Sailer, Paul Gottfried, Jim Goad, Gavin McInnes and Charles Glass.

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

hey whaddaya know Taki's Mag also has a piece by Jim Goad about Trayvon who wants to read it? lol me neither fuck that guy

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

jim goad piece boils down to "we don't really know what happened, and i'm brave enough to admit it". feebly trying to shame those outraged into "objectively" not giving a shit.

"we don't really know what happened" is code for "evidence? fuck that, i like my version better"

eyes of dora maar (get bent), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

anyone who calls himself a 'paleoconservative' or 'paleolibertarian' shd be avoided at all costs. they are invariably the most repellent writers and thinkers on earth and barely even good for perverse entertainment value.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really 'get' jim goad, who is he? there's a certain kind of counterculture writer who plays around with hard-right shit half for shock value, half for value-value that i've never really given a shit about. like boyd rice. is he like that?

goole, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

I LOVE THE 90'S!!!!!

#yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he's very much in the boyd rice mode. different stylistically but same basic deal.

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

got to number 11 on the derbyshire article, hucked my phone into the sun

arby's, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

in the article. anyway. fuuuck.

arby's, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

is that the talk racist parents have with their kids?

why yes, yes it is.

the late great, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

i think i've heard the non-middle-eastern version of "the terrorist talk" on capitol hill

the late great, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

well anyway looks like that guy might find it harder to work - iwsbs probably control the media and banks

the late great, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, I was actually taken aback by its brazenness. lol cloistered liberal I guess

― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, April 6, 2012 6:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the funny thing is I post sometimes on another board that attracts a lot more conservative wackos, and (I realize this is ridiculous in retrospect) when someone posted this article I actually had the thought "I should post this on ILX -- no wait, better to just not even let them know that this exists, it will only depress them.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

At the Corner:

Derb’s Screed
By Rich Lowry
April 6, 2012 9:08 P.M.

Needless to say, no one at National Review shares Derb’s appalling view of what parents supposedly should tell their kids about blacks in this instantly notorious piece here.

I honestly don't know if Lowry means that or if he posted it with a nudge-nudge-wink-wink.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

morelike derpyshire

#yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

might be the first time anyone at NROLand has tossed someone to the dogs

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

comments disabled!

goole, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, i feel like: aaaaare you sure about that, rich?

goole, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

I'm reeling from that article still. Sort of sorry I
posted it (sorry I ever read it or saw it for sure).
It's just that there's no codewords or anything.
It's just pure racism. Basically no different than
those klan types gawker reported on the other
day. Usually you expect some room for plausible
deniability or whatever. All the things that ppl
sort of half-joke about getting said behind
closed doors -- he just comes out and says them
all. It's very depressing.

yeah, the lack of 'code words' has me reeling as well. i've read my fair share of consevative op eds that more or less boil down to the same thing... but man.... i almost don't want to admit it but being shameless and up-front really hits me harder. honestly shocked and can only hope that the deep-seated hate that this smug asshole has decided to nurture eats him up inside.

original bgm, Saturday, 7 April 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

Gallup also acknowledged it had collected information on the Hispanic perspective on the Trayvon Martin case that it had not seen fit to report publicly. On its website, Gallup says it interviewed 3,006 people, including 2,334 non-Hispanic whites and 242 blacks. When I pressed for a breakdown, Gallup said it had interviewed 239 Hispanics. Note the numbers: While the Hispanic sample was virtually the same size as the African-American sample, Gallup did not regard the Hispanic viewpoint as worth reporting either in its release to the media or online.

Gallup did provide the data when I asked, and the numbers show that Hispanics view the case rather differently from both blacks and whites.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/07/trayvon_polls_ignore_latinos/

Milton Parker, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. I'd been seeing references to this on facebook and twitter all day, but hadn't had a chance to investigate until now. Really wishing I hadn't bothered.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

“Only the sample sizes for non-Hispanic white and non-Hispanic black were large enough to be meaningful,” Pew told me.

The collective viewpoint of Hispanics and others who don’t identify as white or black wasn’t “large enough to be meaningful” — even though they were more numerous than the African-Americans whose views were reported. It’s hard to think of a more clear-cut example of how the American media “privileges” the political  narratives of blacks and whites over those of Americans who are neither.

no...it really just isn't statistically meaningful...the more important fact is that 109 non-hispanic blacks barely is too

iatee, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

that derbyshire thing is prob the most racist thing i've ever read that was explicitly some KKK/nazi shit from the outset

J0rdan S., Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

wasn't**

J0rdan S., Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

the thread keeps trying to veer away from it, we keep coming back. really digs its thorns in yr brain, stinks up the joint.

arby's, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

i just visited the museum of tolerance in LA, it's a lot like some of the nazi shit you can see there

the late great, Saturday, 7 April 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link

vile racist cunt taki is regularly referred to in Private Eye as Takialotofcokeupthenose

I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Saturday, 7 April 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link

wait a second, how is this website NOT explicitly racist trash?

i just randomly clicked another article and read this: "if I write that Islam is a vile religion for advocating the execution of homosexuals I will likely be sued and pursued by my own kind: white Christian heterosexuals who believe that appeasing the so-called “towels” will one day bring us peace and prosperity."

the late great, Saturday, 7 April 2012 08:40 (twelve years ago) link

it *is vile racist trash.

I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Saturday, 7 April 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that Taki is reduced to self-publishing his racist screeds, rather than having them aired in mainstream publications like The Sunday Times and The Spectator, is a cause for celebration. It's just a shame that the guy who employed him to write about "black thugs" at the Spectator is Mayor of London and a reasonable bet for the next Conservative PM.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

I woke up still angry about that thing, wanting to pen a Letter To My Son about how white people are insanely dangerous, but obv that's also dumb but Jesus. This fuckin asshole. And the way he frames it as "well, we have a talk with our kids, too, black people...and it's about how scary you are" is so fuckin

makes me mad is what

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 7 April 2012 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny how my totally racist father never had The Talk with me.

Clay, Saturday, 7 April 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

makes you think

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

guess he figured it worked through osmosis rather than a series of bullet points.

Clay, Saturday, 7 April 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

I really wish I had remained ignorant of takimag, it is one of the most depressing things I've seen in a long time.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Saturday, 7 April 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link


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