Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

or a line of self defense videos

it's hard to believe bob dylan spawned such a horrible son.

"Self-defense tip one: If you feel threatened by a youth in a hoodie, slowly exit your vehicle and follow him, taking great pains to ensure that he doesn't know you're there until you know you've got a clean shot."

<3 Ta-Nehisi Coates

George thought he had a problem when Trayvon said “I came to chew skittles and whip honkies. And I’m all outta skittles.” #shitzimmermansays
— Ta-Nehisi Coates (@tanehisi) March 29, 2012

 
Zimmerman claims he knew he was in trouble when Trayvon referred to him as “Jive Turkey” #shitzimmermansays
— Ta-Nehisi Coates (@tanehisi) March 29, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxs5Woss__k&feature=player_embedded#!

what the fuck is this

dialogue america can appreciate

How is it that everything about this just gets more and more depressing :(

Bcz America is a terrible, terrible country that ruins everything.

jfc

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/431880/Images/racechart.png

http://prospect.org/article/willful-ignorance-1

See?

That poll makes no sense and also what the fuck was that woman trying to prove with such a pathetic and offensive "gotcha!"?

that CNN can be as offensive as Fox NEWS?

That poll makes no sense and also what the fuck was that woman trying to prove with such a pathetic and offensive "gotcha!"?

http://prospect.org/authors/jamelle-bouie

http://prospect.org/sites/default/files/styles/medium/public/bouie_headshot.jpg

I think Stevie thought it made no sense that whites could be so willfully obtuse

couldn't watch past the question. her smug face, like she's trying to swallow a triumphant grin. fucking evil.

oh lol part of that must be blocked by my job, all I saw was an article by Jamelle

No that's exactly what I meant; you can't just equate white "minorities" with the black population; that question is fucking ridiculous. People are so stupid.

"what if the most crucial things about this case..... were completely different?? what THEN????"

well i think that woman has a point

"special favors"

yeah that's an incredibly loaded phrase

and now that i think about it it's so loaded that it probably invalidates the poll

More often than not these days, I'm bubbling over with white self-hate.

bubbling over with self hate? as a nonwhite, i grant thee honorary minority status.

http://newsone.com/nation/afisher/joe-oliver-lawrence-o-donnell-last-call-interview/

Do you agree with the following statement: "White people should be forced to give away all their things to black people". The racial divide is alive and well.

ugh it's just such a toxic mentality -- the idea that programs designed to aid the disadvantaged show some sort of preferential bias, or are somehow being rewarded for being marginalized. like, this woman i know once was loudly and angrily griping that her ex-husband was getting subsidized dental care because he ended up with HIV. "Why don't I get free dental care? I didn't go out and fuck my life up and get AIDS. So he gets AIDS and gets free shit? How is that fair??" well... maybe because oral health is crucial for AIDS patients because they have a compromised immune system?

weird anecdote, off topic, but... that's the sort of fucked-up, self-regarding resentment i mean. WELFARE? AFFIRMATIVE ACTION? BIRTH CONTROL? WHAT ABOUT ME, THE WHITE MAN?

83% of the whites answered the question, as opposed to only 62% of the blacks. Now you tell me which race "tries harder".

look i am sorry i even posted that now

let's move on, or go back to that CNN hosebeast, either would be preferable

flag frog post

i posted a handy link about how zimmerman's one black friend doesn't know anything about zimmerman, can talk abt that maybe

and now that i think about it it's so loaded that it probably invalidates the poll

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, March 30, 2012 12:46 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, it's almost a push-polly "gee well now that you mention it" kind of statement.

what was the lady on CNN saying? links not working for me.

Plus the way it's broken into two sentences almost implies that the first sentence is FACT, and then, given that fact, do you agree with the second.

Along the lines of "would the congressional black caucus still care about Trayvon's murder if he was a white kid?"

lol wow that is a dumb, dumb question

without party favors

would the murderer face trial if trayvon wasn't a black kid?

why is it so hard to understand that this is the majority of the point? if the victim was white and the shooter was black, he'd be sentenced by now, and no one would care.

did anyone see that sentient shitstain piers morgan interview zimmerman's brother last night?

More often than not these days, I'm bubbling over with white self-hate.

I try to be more constructive in directing my hatred towards pieces of human shit like that awful CNN anchor. But I definitely feel you inasmuch as a lot of our fellow white people are the fucking worst.

http://globalgrind.com/node/829140

I really want to just spam right wing message boards with trayvononahorse.jpg

trayvon in a CANDY SHIRT riding a PONY.

candy, ponies, baby cousins

Well another depressing right-winger link here, EXCEPT

http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/03/trayvon-martin-good-teen-or-gangbanger.html

the lead photo is one of the famed middle finger photos. Only guess what -- no middle finger. Another reminder of how likely it is that a lot of the stuff going around is shopped/fake.

the battle over representation of martin is so weird, people on each side of the issue somehow seeking to prove that THIS (actual, verifiable) picture of trayvon is the REAL trayvon, how he ACTUALLY TRULY was in real life: smiling kid who loves candy and gets kissed on the cheek by his dad vs. aggressive teenage thug wearing grills and acting tough. one is supposed to be real, and the other not real or less real.

like -- aside from the fact that NONE OF IT MATTERS -- how difficult is it to accept that may ALL be trayvon because he was a real, actual, complex person with different relationships and a faceted personality because he was a HUMAN BEING?

but... i guess that is maybe a lot to ask and i should know better

i totally agree elmo, its ridiculous on both sides, but otoh, since the right-wing pretty much initiated this discourse with all of the bullshit "trayvon was a gangster, SEE" finger-pointing, i think its important to kind of balance all that out with a more complete idea of who he was. i mean, yes, we shouldn't have to be involved in this AT ALL, but its not helping to just let the right run with their control of the images.

Totally agree. What shocks me is that there's actually a race to create a FAKE image of what Trayvon was like. That there are people so invested in this that they will actually shop trayvon photos to make him look more thuggish or w/e.

And agree with jon too -- once the right wing starts a media war, you have to fight back. Not unlike what happened with DSK, where the woman kind of had to start putting out her own side of things because otherwise he was controlling the media narrative