Voted Slate b/c it's the only one I actually read on the regular. Funny to think of the Atlantic as an Internet magazine, even though it does seem to have made substantial inroads into the online world w/all of its blogs.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I have a friend who works there and she says even she never sees the print mag, I know it still exists somewhere in theory, where these types of print mags exist
― iatee, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Guy who used to be an intern in my office as a college student and was apparently a huge douche who acted like he ran the place is now an "associate editor" for TheAtlantic.com.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Greenwald, Pareene, Seitz, duh
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuck the atlantic
― horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
the cities section is pretty good, they found a good niche
― iatee, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was really into Salon ca. 1998-2002. The Garrison Keillor/Sarah Vowell years. Then they did that subscription experiment and I jumped ship. Kind of forgot about it altogether until ILX political threads started linking to Pareene and Greenwald articles.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
okay, i didn't even know about the atlantic cities
― horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp Like, the first "message board" I ever posted to was Salon's Table Talk. I mostly lurked on the film threads.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, in my mind salon is a late 90s thing, stopped looking at it years ago when the pay thing became too much of a pain to wade thru.
― buzza, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
"mothers who think"
http://www.slate.fr/
― iatee, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
― horseshoe, Thursday, March 8, 2012 9:17 AM (10 minutes ago)
except when once in a while they run a neat piece, like once every two years
― a serious minestrone rockist (remy bean), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
recently deleted bookmark on slate, really just a bunch of mediocre writing & groupthink/received ideas/convential wisdom imo
never cottoned to salon, it always seemed a bit too "alt-weekly" for my taste but the ilxor who writes on politics there is v good when i see links to his stuff
the atlantic i almost never read so idk
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
salon the worst. paglia and greenwald, enough said. i still read it daily. slate the best, tho i miss shafer. and slate has the worst tv critic in the world.
― Mordy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't really read Atlantic apart from Sully; slate is still too corporate and some of the stuff on there is really of the magnets how the fuck do they work variety. Salon has some truly awful writers workin for them but the top politics dudes all raise it up imo
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
all the arts criticism in slate is lame
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
voted for the new yorker
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sully no longer at Atlantic
― Mordy, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
sorry yr right about that.
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
atlantic def has the juice right now as far as being most internet, anyway they each have one guy who i read regularly, tho prob the atlantic has the most guys i read semi regularly, slate is good for bullshit factoid pieces, salon is kinda unbearable as far as their whole tone/culture, atlantic is more thinking smart thoughts abt the world by inhuman people who have been to lots of college and twitter but not the actual world, idk theyre all p good, voted atlantic just because they r best at leveraging social media
― lag∞n, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
the only one of these i ever read with any regularity was slate, but that was a while ago. remember dahlia lithwick fondly.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just wait for longform.org to cherry-pick shit from all of the above
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really don't glance at Slate much these days unless someone links to an article. The quality of the writing has deteriorated now that it's got real competition.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am amazed each of these sites makes enough money to pay lots of salaries and I wonder if tablet-culture is gonna make that harder. it'd prob be harder to put up a paywall today than it was in their failed-experiment days, there really are a lot of other places to go for 'this kinda stuff'. or maybe it's the opposite cause people are willing to pay for apps.
― iatee, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
eh i feel like they hit a sweet spot of quality/accessibility that looks easier than it is
― lag∞n, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
paglia and greenwald, enough said.
Ha, is Paglia seriously still writing for Salon??
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like the Atlantic blogs but man the features are risible at best (tho the blogs are getting steadily worse).
if i judged solely based on how often i actually click through my RSS feed to read the actual article i'd have to say the Atlantic wins and Slate comes in last.
― ryan, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Even though I can't remember reading a single Slate piece in maybe a year, they get the vote for the Hang Up and Listen / Political Gabfest podcasts.
― Spertify (CompuPost), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
don't know what to vote for, none of them really have my loyalty or affection. maybe the atlantic? slate is prob the worst to me
― goole, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
salon the worst. paglia and greenwald, enough said. i still read it daily
this made me lol
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
What the fuck is the deal with all the JFK conspiracy articles on Salon?
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I only ever read the Atlantic in print, because my parents subscribed to it forever and have now bought me a gift subscription (likewise with Harper's). I did enjoy the recent issue on research into whether parasites from cats can alter our behavior. Had ~just~ enough tabloidness about it.
― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also this great pic of the principal researcher:
― dan m, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
agl
― goole, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Every time I visit Slate they have some challopsy article featured, like "Why Beer is Better Warm than Cold"
― President Keyes, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
― iatee, Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:51 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
atlantic has that "ideas conf." though it makes a legit profit on its own im pretty sure, likely thru smart web strategyslate is owned by wapo/kaplan and i dont think would make a profit otherwisesalon im pretty sure has until very recently been on the brink of complete failure though i guess theyve turned around in the last 6mo/1yr
― max, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyway i dont really have a strong feeling. atlantic is probably the best designed. salon has more of my favorite writers.
rly wonder abt the money side of all of these, esp salon
i'm amazed at the comment box action salon gets.
― goole, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
salon -- the only one of these i check every day, obv for greenwald but their political coverage is generally pretty good. i almost never read online comments but the threads on their advice columnist's posts (which usually contain no actual advice and are kind of like garrison keillor on acid or something) are invariably entertaining. andrew o'hehir is way less hateable than the zacharek/taylor terrible twosome.
slate -- kind of totally hate it, literally cannot remember ever reading a single memorable article there, except for those 'random fact' pieces like 'so whatever happened to that hole in the ozone layer'?
atlantic -- i actually had a subscription for a year, which is more than long enough to notice that all their cover stories sound exactly the same. good articles here and there, of course.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am amazed each of these sites makes enough money to pay lots of salaries
i always wonder how much they pay their writers
― lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
does that really annoying mommy blog lady still write for salon? ayelet waldman? i used to read salon in the early 00s just to be annoyed by her.
― sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
if slate can't break even what good is it to wapo?
― iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
i dont read any of these and thought the atlantic was a 'magazine'
― Lamp, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
well wapo cant break even either
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i guess slate is prob a better long term bet than a newspaper
― iatee, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
― President Keyes, Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:23 PM (3 hours ago)
ha!
― Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Until looking at this poll I am p sure I thought slate and salon were the same thing. Same looking websites! Same looking name!
― Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Like thank god slate is not on trial and I'm not an eyewitness testimony.
― Abarham Lincoln posing (Abbbottt), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
even their stupid favicons are borderline indistinguishable
Yes, they were commentators, not shoe-leather reporters: "reporting" seems to have talismanic effect over the consciousness
I wish it did
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:01 (2 months ago) Permalink
Never looked at the masthead, but Kasia Cieplak-Mayr von Baldegg would be an awesome Bond villain name.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:09 (2 months ago) Permalink
Or Ivy League smut peddler!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:10 (2 months ago) Permalink
ahahah
― s.clover, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:19 (2 months ago) Permalink
wow that list of 'contributors' is depressing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:13 (2 months ago) Permalink
I'm not gonna actually go research this but it doesn't seem inconceivable that there was at least 1 minority working at the atlantic 20 years ago
― iatee, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:22 (2 months ago) Permalink
That would make a great piece. Could you look into it and get me 1500 words by Monday? I can't promise payment, but a lot of people read ILX.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:24 (2 months ago) Permalink
Before llx it was hard to break into the world of message boards
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Friday, 15 March 2013 15:11 (2 months ago) Permalink
"reporting"
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 15 March 2013 15:13 (2 months ago) Permalink
I'm so sick of 'capitalism, man'
― lag∞n, Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:58 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ftr you know my neoliberalism gum tweet was a joke right, i have been thinking about this for 1 week
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:12 (2 months ago) Permalink
hoos added to the list
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:22 (2 months ago) Permalink
otw
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 01:32 (2 months ago) Permalink
I liked this reaction to the whole payment kerfuffle: http://lhote.blogspot.com/2013/03/admiring-shade-on-somebody-elses-deck.html
― maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 04:02 (2 months ago) Permalink
I wonder what unpromoted or underpromoted publications well-read journalists write for today. You know, to give aspiring publications a leg up.
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 04:09 (2 months ago) Permalink
Unpaid, I mean
so i was on salon the other day and got this great set of recommendations:
― s.clover, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 12:54 (2 months ago) Permalink
― maura, Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:02 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah. i mean, what we should all be mad about, if anything, is the slow inevitable crumbling of western society as we know it. :)))))))))))))))))))
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 15:02 (2 months ago) Permalink
:D
― maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 15:31 (2 months ago) Permalink
might as well post this here too, because fuck the atlantic:http://natethayer.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-freelance-journalist-2013/
― --808 542137 (Hurting 2), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:11 (1 month ago) Permalink
http://natethayer.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-freelance-journalist-2013/― iatee, Monday, March 4, 2013 11:05 PM (1 month ago)
― iatee, Monday, March 4, 2013 11:05 PM (1 month ago)
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:13 (1 month ago) Permalink
oh durr. someone just posted it to my feed today. oh well.
― --808 542137 (Hurting 2), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:14 (1 month ago) Permalink
It sure seems like Slate is going down the toilet lately.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:17 (1 month ago) Permalink
Go on?
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:29 (1 month ago) Permalink
It's worse now than usual?
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:30 (1 month ago) Permalink
the articles just keep getting worse and more vapid. Matthew Yglesias either copies other people's work wholesale, or just pukes out every inane thought he has under the guise of "THIS IS GOING TO FUCKING CHANGE EVERYTHING" (see his articles this week on how WALGREEN IS THE FUTURE OF RETAIL, or his idiotic article about how PASTA MACHINES ARE GOING TO SAVE THE SERVICE ECONOMY). And then there's Amanda Marcotte. Holy shit, talk about someone who is nothing more than a gross caricature of feminist politics. There's really no one worth reading on there anymore.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:33 (1 month ago) Permalink
and the number of typos, misspellings, and factual errors that riddle every article has gotten to a truly horrifying state
― Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:37 (1 month ago) Permalink
a truly horrifying slate
― 乒乓, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:43 (1 month ago) Permalink
oh poliopaws
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:54 (1 month ago) Permalink
i've been loving the foreignpolicy sister site bunches
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
bunches? that's a cute name for a site!
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:58 (1 month ago) Permalink
hello giggles!
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:00 (1 month ago) Permalink
Foriegn Policy magazine? That's an actual print magazine led by respectable authors, thinkers, and policymakers. Foreign Policy is not a "click-bait"-style journal. I don't put Slate in the same league as that, although at one point maybe 10 years ago, Slate was closer to being in the ballpark.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:01 (1 month ago) Permalink
owned by slate tho
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:05 (1 month ago) Permalink
Slate is owned by the Washington Post, I believe.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:08 (1 month ago) Permalink
foreign policy is one of those things where it's interesting to read *because* the ppl reading it are "respectable" but i hate most of what i've ever read in it, the perspective is so shamelessly fukuyama
― flopson, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:13 (1 month ago) Permalink
"slate group"
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:15 (1 month ago) Permalink
Slate Group is owned by the Post. But regardless, I don't see much in common between Slate and FP-- just a convenient cross-marketing opportunity.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:36 (1 month ago) Permalink
I read Thomas Ricks's blog on FP (ricks.foreignpolicy.com) but if I miss anything I can never go back, there doesn't seem to be a way to view individual blog posts/comments without registering for FP and fuck that noise
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 5 April 2013 20:36 (1 month ago) Permalink
Dave Weigel (Slate) is pushing this People Concerned about Drones equal People Ranting about Black Helicopters thing that is sickening.
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2013 22:23 (1 month ago) Permalink
seeing @bro_pair call him on the carpet about his iraq war support last week was kind of cheering tbh
― zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 5 April 2013 22:24 (1 month ago) Permalink
yes i'm definitely cheered by being reminded how ridiculously young these folx are
― balls, Saturday, 6 April 2013 16:50 (1 month ago) Permalink
Foreign Policy is trying to get hip, though - the most recent issue I saw had a color photo on the cover, instead of the National Geographic-circa-1912 look they'd had until, I don't know, two months ago? And if you go to their website they're definitely Slate-ifying their headlines.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 6 April 2013 17:30 (1 month ago) Permalink
it was a big blow to slate losing hitchens - probably their only real marquee columnist? (unless u count lol roiphe)
― Mordy, Saturday, 6 April 2013 22:57 (1 month ago) Permalink
hitchens wasn't there that long was he?
― balls, Sunday, 7 April 2013 02:38 (1 month ago) Permalink
― flopson, Friday, April 5, 2013 1:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
<3
― Woody Ellen (Matt P), Sunday, 7 April 2013 02:47 (1 month ago) Permalink
a blog post i half-read today sez that in a recent fp article (AS WELL AS A TED TALK BY THE AUTHOR), so-and-so sez 'we are witnessing the rise of laughtivism'.
coolin up, yep
― j., Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:30 (1 month ago) Permalink
as noted upthread, lithwick is good at slate. don't know how regular her column contributions are though.
― life is good (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:42 (1 month ago) Permalink
http://www.mrdestructo.com/2013/04/destructo-salon-does-matthew-yglesias.html
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Thursday, 25 April 2013 18:00 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
yeeeeeees
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:10 (3 weeks ago) Permalink