thread devoted to www.debbiespenditnow.com

how is this even legal

long duk debbie

the chinese characters used are very lol - they're traditional chinese characters, which are only used in taiwan and hong kong

http://i.imgur.com/5TTmY.png

pretty sure that's the most offensive political ad I've seen in my lifetime, holy shit

What's up with her accent?

she doesn't have one

not even a hint of sublety ... fuck the dog whistles this election year.

unbelievable

debbiespendsdallas

lil' debbie spends it now

Debbie Deb - Lookout Wespend

http://i.imgur.com/pviGA.png

would like to point out that the translation of the chinese means 'debt of the great wall of china' as if the great wall were an entity capable of holding debt

I keep typing in the post box like I'm going to type up a long post about this but it invariably ends in frustration and deletions

http://i.imgur.com/EQPbP.jpg

jesus christ

u r the tom brady of human dignity, america

afaict this is the group that designed the website

http://www.prospergroupcorp.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy72cdnKuhw

(I have to admit, it is a snazzy website)

lol u r the one who fails econ 101 Hoekstra ... u just looking for an excuse to make a ching-chong-chinaman joke.

was just going to ask who designed that website

Eisbaer i think that was a copy/paste from facebook, i am not sure Hoekstra is lurking on this thread??? xp

i.e., american companies sending work that used to be done in the United States to China instead has little to do with the Chinese buying US debt.

i miss the subtle racial politics of this ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gerq4GpHpKw

"we take your jobs"

i can't believe this is a real thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxw4uZAezaI&feature=player_embedded

"debbie spend so much american money...your economy get very weak, ours get very good. we take your jobs!"

i mean, wtf?!? i can't believe there's an audience for this, that it doesn't trigger massive outrage from fucking everyone in the country. lol, i'm naive.

I've found myself frequently surprised at what's still acceptable to a lot of people over the last year or so

say what you will but we all know now that on ilx this is racist, funny

at least long duk dong bothered w/an accent!

I demand higher quality racism

Wow. WTF!

higher qual racism, few years old tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OTSQozWP-rM

ha i remember that one

God lord I didn't watch the video for a while and this is an official campaign website of Pete Hoekstra?! With his face approving the message and everything? I assumed this was just some bullshit from some anti-China think tank.

I predict that the pundits are going to utterly destroy him.

Also, to echo Eisbaer's sentiments... yeah lumping every trade issue with China together as one big thing is very very bad politics. Our treasury bond deal with China is one of the nice parts of our relationship so to lump that in with things like human rights concerns and such 1) demonizes China and 2) further confuses economic reality in the minds of the public.

The blatant xenophobia of American conservatism is just truly disgusting. I mean, I really am shocked this is an official campaign site and not done by some two-steps removed PAC.

XXPS LOL Buzza I was just thinking about that bizarre small-town multiculturalism mind-fuck of a politcal campaign ad.

according to politico, this ad "hit a nerve"

Yeah I don't think that's the take the WaPo and msnbc folks are going to have on this one.

The follow-up ad. will have some rich territory to mind. So far, they haven't even begun to address the whole peepee-in-coke angle.

er, mine, that is.

holy shit this is amazing

*sound of a large gong*

q: why is she riding a bicycle through apocalyptic farmland if their economy get so good

They are growing nuclear bombs.

the apocalyptic farmland of california

Greatest democracy in the world ;_;

oh my god

Pete Hoekstra, ladies and gentlemen. West Michigan's own Dutch Calvinist class act.

i guess the silver lining here is that the chinese apparently no longer have the time nor the inclination to humorously urinate in our soda

Hoekstra has always been a horrible scumbag so I wasn't surprised by this.

He's one of the ones that I really do hope gets hit by a bus.

Another rich, repellant Calvinist will just step into his place. You'd have to run over all of them. Which I'm not saying is a bad idea, just harder to pull off.

another post by fallows on the ad

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/more-on-the-we-take-your-jobs-hoekstra-commercial/252661/

as somebody points out, michigan is where vincent chin was killed for looking 'japanese'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Vincent_Chin

tbh I think sometimes they go full circle and parody racist perceptions by making racist observations

it's a troublesome look, but hey, the humor gun misfires sometimes

Found it, it was 1999, which is long enough ago to be somewhat comforting.

from the onions new spinoff, racist onion

lol

When I first stumbled across that graphic, it was right around the time Nivea was having hits.

I swear that once I heard a woman calling for her child named Wachovia.

It's a good name for that, you'd really get some length out of the 'a' and 'o'.

but it's pronounced wacho-veeea

a friend thought that name was meant to suggest "watch over ya!"

Cue the David Alan Grier "Naming children after contraceptive drugs" bit

nobody names a male baby Dakota wtf

lol tell that to my nephew

http://blog.angryasianman.com/2012/02/hoekstra-campaign-removes-all-traces-of.html

RIP debbiespenditnow.com

RIP beautifully designed hate site

You can't say the ad was not effective.

was all ready to gis "burn world down" until I clicked

I am becoming more and more convinced that that ad company is intentionally sabotaging its clients

http://blog.angryasianman.com/2012/11/campaign-flier-features-candidates-face.html

it's kinda more nationalist than racist cuz she wite

ime, to the people who this dog whistle attracts it doesn't matter if youre chinese or chinese-american

yeah I mean on no level can chinese-americans benefit from stereotyping but the core of this is an economic nationalism message that both parties use these days. but I think you can be something of a economic nationalist without being totally racist. like, keep the message and 'facts' and take out the dumb theme - is that still race baiting? idk.

i think an ad decrying jobs lost to england or even socialist france would have a somewhat different feel

Debbie Stabenow won btw

but I think you can be something of a economic nationalist without being totally racist. like, keep the message and 'facts' and take out the dumb theme - is that still race baiting? idk.

― iatee, Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:55 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dont think this is possible fwiw when an easily identifiable racial minority is involved

I guess what I'm trying to say is that although this is clearly racist in that it works off lol south park stereotypes, it's still mostly pushing the bigger narrative 'they're taking our jobs'. a narrative that does not benefit asian-americans either. but is not entirely untrue.

not really concerned about the 'trueness' of this tbh

well what I'm more saying is that yeah, 1000 people in cleveland got this or w/e, but the big picture issue is mitt romney (and barack obama) talking about taking our jerbs back from china in front of 80 million people

what I'm saying is that there's p much no way to score political points on this topic w/o also tarring asian-americans who live in this country

and the rhetoric shouldn't be about demonizing china, it should be about criticizing the companies who decide to offshore in the first place.

well it's complicated. like I don't think #1 is untrue but that also doesn't mean that chinese currency manipulation hasn't been a major factor in jobs going offshore

and if we start attacking companies who decide to offshore, we're still participating in economic nationalism and promoting a sort of 'made in america' culture.

okay but you wouldn't have splashover onto asian-americans, which is all I really care about tbqh

I mean I get the appeal of a rarefied "technically this is true" thinking but on the ground this type of attack politics has real actual effects on actual people, no matter how carefully crafted the political message is

well china's exchange rates have actual effects on actual people too! I mean w/ this particular ad it's not even 'technically this is true' but my bigger point is that the umbrella narrative that this is happening under (china takes our jobs) generally isn't considered objectionable, even by the left

I think we're talking past each other

/ and I think that is a much bigger problem than goofy fake chinese font xp

uh this isnt really about a 'goofy fake chinese font'

the takeaway box trope is awful tho i guess that & vague economic resentment the extent of a lot of ppls engagement with 'china'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky

what's it about? I basically think some dumb flyer's asian stereotypes are 'less problematic' than the big picture narratives that the entire country accepts w/r/t trade policy but #2 is harder to question / talk about

xp

this sort of imagery is inherently toxic

taking it to fb because I don't really feel like getting into this on here

us-china relations are going to get ugly enough in the next decade without this sort of crap

takeaway box is a sort of racism-by-synecdoche

After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racist.

are you fucking kidding me?

what's it about? I basically think some dumb flyer's asian stereotypes are 'less problematic' than the big picture narratives that the entire country accepts w/r/t trade policy but #2 is harder to question / talk about

what? a white guy thinks the racism angle isn't really a big deal? eat it edward r murrow I've got the scoop of the year

what? aero purposely misreads an iatee post so he can get a zing in?

the point wasn't that 'the racism angle isn't really a big deal' the point was that the racism angle that 1000 people get isn't as important as the racism angle that 300 million people get

which is 'an american deserves a job more than a chinese person does'

eh, more that products purchased in america should be economically viable to produce in america, thus encouraging local employment

that same logic works in china! where people are poorer!

what, like no one owns foxconn? not /everyone/ is poorer

a friend I was talking to last night had been in china recently and people were excited to see her using a tablet running android! they'd never seen android, since apparently devices aren't sold there or are somehow legally restricted. she wanted to use google docs, though, but it was banned by the country's firewall. a lot of android devices are manufactured in china!

she also talked to some people who had seen a tv show about american dollar stores, and they were surprised by the variety of items available for only a dollar. how much do you want to bet a fair number of things were actually made in china?

the economics, manufacturing, and product availability of things is weird, I guess.

just saying. samsung is a big player in chinese smartphone market (19% market share) （galaxy android phones on taobao） and htc. i bought a samsung galaxy in dalian in april. google docs usually works for me in china but gets locked up about as often as blogger does (goes in erratic cycles). chinese consumers like apple. china has their own version of dollar stores selling the same cheap shit for less than a dollar and you can find the same shit in any corner store or downmarket department store.

and other android devices widely available in china： http://s8.taobao.com/search?q=android&pid=mm_10011550_2325296_9002527&unid=&mode=63&from_bt=1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20121111

yeah, it seemed really off to me! I'll have to ask where she was. The intermittent lockdown was what she meant, though.