Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

it's like arguing about pizza vs. china

china

Alfred, could you link to the full interview? Not sure if I missed it upthread.

Never mind, found it.

It's pretty awesome actually: http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/barney-frank-2012-4/

You were talking about the Republicans and not being able to work with them. But isn’t your ultimate beef with the voters, since it’s the voters who reward that behavior?

I’m glad you said that, you’re very smart. These days, in developed countries, everybody says you need a private sector to create wealth, you need a public sector to create rules by which wealth is created. Sensible people understand that. The tension between left and right has been where you draw that line, but it’s been a contest between people who see maybe a 20 percent overlap. Let me read this to you. [Picks up copy of Friedrich von Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom.] “In no system that could be rationally defended would the state just do nothing.” ­[Closes book.]

Do you read Hayek a lot?

For these purposes. For the first time in American history, we have people in power now who reject that idea. If they knew it was Hayek, they might think, Well, maybe. But they reject the public sector. That’s why we can’t work together.

I liked that snippet of the Frank interview, but he misused Weltschmerz (worldly pain), when he probably meant Weltanshauung (worldview).

This game again:

In a major escalation of a slowly building fight over funding the government, the White House has warned House Republicans, in no uncertain terms, that the government will shut down in September if the GOP does not adhere to an agreement they cut with Democrats in August during the standoff over raising the nation’s debt limit.

“Until the House of Representatives indicates that it will abide by last summer’s agreement, the President will not be able to sign any appropriations bills,” writes Jeffrey Zients, acting director of the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, in a letter addressed to congressional appropriators Wednesday.

The message is simple: The government will shut down just ahead of the 2012 presidential election if Republicans break faith with the debt limit deal.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/obama-to-gop-abide-by-the-debt-limit-deal-or-else.php

awesome sauce!

hilarious

it's like the one trick they know, and it doesn't even work, but they keep doing it anyway

and the GOP are even worse.

Romney to give commencement address at Liberty University. I can't even.

“We are delighted that Governor Romney will join us to celebrate Commencement with Liberty’s 2012 graduates," said Liberty Chancellor Jerry Falwell, Jr. "This will be a historic event for Liberty University reminiscent of the visits of Governor, and then presidential candidate, Ronald Reagan to Liberty’s campus in 1980 and of President George H.W. Bush who spoke at Liberty’s 1990 Commencement ceremony.”

"Let's remind these president fucks who really runs this country"

when he probably meant Weltanshauung (worldview).

I would have thought it was Weltgeist

But... but... Americans never say Weltgeist. Even the ones with Masters degrees.

I think it's "freedom geist" now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_30_Rock_characters#Don_Geiss

wow damn

http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/19/467439/cantor-anti-semitism-house-gop/

Calling it the “darker side,” Cantor responded to Politico’s Mike Allen’s question of whether there is anti-semitism in Congress by trying to avoid commenting. But eventually he let up: “I think that all of us know that in this country, we’ve not always gotten it right in terms of racial matters, religious matters, whatever. We continue to strive to provide equal treatment to everybody.”

“We’re talking about the House Republican Caucus, not America,” Allen pushed.

Cantor then sat in silence, grimmacing for several seconds before Allen changed the topic.

that's pretty fucked up. i wonder how all the religious jewish republicans i know are going to square this, but i'm sure they'll innovate some sort of mental gymnastics to explain it away.

maybe they won't even hear about it, information pathways being what they are

oh, they'll hear about it if i have anything to do with it.

haha go get 'em

wait, what's the issue here?

lol that's hilarious. fuck Eric Cantor dude is a monster.

wait, what's the issue here?

― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

cantor is jewish and admitting that there's anti-semitism among republicans

uhhhm i haven't actually watched that vid tbh, there is some disagreement as to whether media matters is assessing the conversation accurately

wait, what's the issue here?

― pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

cantor is jewish and admitting that there's anti-semitism among republicans

― dayo, Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:33 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i got that, i got the impression that he said something more inflammatory, given a couple ppls reactions

Drone, drone, drone on:

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/19/americas_drone_sickness/singleton/

And we're up to 7 indicted whistleblowers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7abLGn7zUM&feature=player_embedded#!

damn it

go to about 1:50

"This is just about waving a tar baby in the air and saying that something else is a problem," sex Bachmann

omg "sez"

sry, booze

Credo action email:

We're excited that we've already got staff on the ground and campaign offices open to defeat eight of the most odious Tea Party Republicans: Joe Walsh (IL-08), Chip Cravaack (MN-08), Sean Duffy (WI-07), Dan Lungren (CA-07), Mike Fitzpatrick (PA-08), Frank Guinta (NH-01), and Steve King (IA-5) and of course Allen West (FL-22).

Who are we missing? Who is on your list? Where you would like to see us build two more accountability campaigns?

good luck on steve king, but chip cravaack and sean duffy have both got to go

can we swap Sean Duffy for Kevin Powell so that we still have at least one Real World alum in Congress

haha "it's 3am... CAN YOU GET THE PHONE?"

69 House Dems defect to back transportation bill that includes go-ahead for Keystone XL.

empty gesture

a few days behind b/c no time but I wanted to ask: is the claim that there's anti-semitism in the House GOP caucus grounded on that caucus containing Christians who believe that Jews won't go to heaven?

has someone finally admitted that? and that christians want to support israel because that's the first step of them all being slaughtered in the rapture/armageddon?

from an article linked upthread:

A few weeks ago, the House GOP was up in arms over House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s (R-VA) $25,000 donation to anti-incumbent candidate Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), who ultimately defeated his opponent, incumbent Rep. Don Manzullo (R-IL). But the story got a little more fraught when it turned out that Manzullo once said Cantor would not be “saved” because he is Jewish.

Today, Cantor, the only Jewish House Republican, nearly affirmed that this was the reason he fought against Manzullo’s re-election, insinuating that anti-Semitism — and racism — are lingering problems among the House GOP generally. He speaking at a breakfast event organized by Politico.

bloody hell i didn't realise he was the only Jewish House Republican.

can i just say ...

FUCK DARRELL ISSA

i live in the solidly blue 53rd district but i work in the forty-ninth, which is solidly red (and increasingly so) thanks no doubt to the presence of camp pendleton and also the fact that it is a rural district full of inbred troglodytes.

even just working in that area i am deeply, deeply ashamed of this POS

ha npr ran a pretty transparent hit job on him last friday iirc

basically "hey you may have herd of this man darrell issa in the congress. we're you aware he's SHADY AS ALL FUCK. darrell issa's office declined to comment"

um, "were".

wasn't there a new yorker piece on him last year?

Yep, it covered his unique past that included allegations of arson

Which I am sure he was not asked about on the Sunday talk show he was where he vowed to get all the details on the Secret Service scandal.

Meanwhile a non-surprising analysis of the Sunday talk shows shows the programs weighted toward Republican guests and

tilt to the right isn’t exclusive to a GOP primary. According to the study, the shows skewed right even during the 2004 election.

Partisanship aside, women made up just 29 percent of the shows’ roundtable guests. Eighty-five percent of the guests were white, 11 percent were African American and 3 percent were Latino.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/fair-study-republicans-sunday-shows.php

he was on