Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

I won't be missing it

Real Fan 2012. This has mutated from follow the team home and away from when I were a lad to track down a stream no matter how crappy and suffer through blurry pictures, freezing screens and incomprehensible commentary.

Or Sopcast for the sophisticates among us.

LOL the Wolves

Curbishley's just a lazy arse, he'll never manage a club again.

Looks like Bruce is simultaneously last-choice and favourite.

At some point soon McCarthy'll come back onto the radar.

Being turned down twice by Alan Curbishley, that's gotta sting

just catching up on motd from a couple of weeks ago. david n'gog's turn and pass to myachi was gorgeous. he's looking a hell of a player, wish we'd kept him.

Morgan out. This is a fucking farce.

Curbishley might be too lazy but we're too fucking cheap, must've been difficult to resist the lure of a 13 week contract and a Raise the Titanic mission.

david n'gog's turn and pass to myachi was gorgeous. he's looking a hell of a player, wish we'd kept him

Unpleasant as the Suarez/Evra affair was, this has got to mark the low point of the season

don't rate him? always thought he had the raw ingredients to be a top player - excellent close control, can hold it up, good awareness, drags players out of position, comfortable with both feet, very skillful (seen some genuine laugh out loud touches from him this season alone), and can create for others and himself. lovely poise and elegance about him too. meant to comment on him after the everton game recently - put through on goal and he somehow shifts his weight on to his left foot to control it and get a shot in early. seems to have a good brain for his age.

i think he's okay but I'm much happier with Bellamy even if it only lasts a couple of seasons tbh

oh yeah bellamy's great. just think ngog's closer to the type of target man i'd like to see us building the team around than say andy carroll.

I dunno, he looked alright for us I guess, but wunderkinder apart you can never tell whether they're going to kick on until they do. Pongolle, Cheyrou, Le Tallec, El Zhar - I wouldn't've said he was ever obviously a class apart from those guys.

My despair is more - we've only just sold him, for not very much, presumably not for bumper wages either. Of course he's going to suddenly become Raul, recently we've had Kuyt up front on his own at times ffs.

true wrt not knowing just how good kids can be. felt he showed much more on a consistent basis than the likes pongolle and le tallec though. real class and composure in high pressure games too, played and scored in the champions league, and that 2nd against man utd at anfield in front of the kop took some guts. not got the figures on me but he had an impressive goals per minute ratio too if i remember correctly. glad to see him doing well anyway, always had a soft spot for him.

incidentally i was at bruno cheyrou's anfield debut against lazio in a pre-season friendly in 2002, the ONE game where he actually did live up to the next zidane hype. seriously amazing.

Leaving it a bit late isn't he? Two goals all season for Bolton isn't exactly going great guns.

could do with more goals aye, generally impressive though. obv when i said i'm glad he's doing well i should've added "as good as can be expected in this bolton team!" he holds it up as well as carroll and already has more strings to his bow.

how good's steven fletcher? saw his clear cut chance coversion stats recently and he's up there with the best in the league. seems to be more than just a goal poacher too.

yeah i mean every team has these guys, pekhart, postiga, prince and taraabt, etc. If they'd done it then they'd be in the team now, is really the bottom line.

how good's steven fletcher?
genuine quesion, not rhetorical. heard good things about him and the stats appear to back them up, but not seem that much of him to be able to judge. that goal against west brom was sublime mind.

fletcher is in that curious range of unglamorous player that scares off clubs with 'real ambition' despite outperforming most players at those clubs

I mean, sometimes they do sign for big clubs but fans usually react badly, they get ill-used as squad options, etc.

grant holt, danny graham

well not even those guys, who are new and may be flashes yet, but fletcher, doyle, brunt, guys that have well proved themselves at lower epl level but the odds of them ever getting a shot at even eg newcastle or villa seem low.

watching espn saves of the week love that shit

is it becuz they are wite but not english but not foreign

How about an all-time premiership XI of these guys, could it have won the league?

fletcher looks a bit more refined, he was 'linked to' madrid when he played for hibs

shit, nakh otm, these guys are being celtically discriminated against

espn now showing basketball and hockey highlights, goooood times

liverpool are trying to collect a team of 'em. It's not working.
xp

i mean, essentially fletcher is rooney had rooney not declared for svenglund

basketball is all abt racism
hockey is all abt fightin

Ha yeah, I was struggling to make a start on an XI, my bad for thinking that playing for a Big Six or England should rule you out.

xp Is this all because Rooney snubbed Ireland?!

if there is a type of player routinely neglected in english fitba its the lower table twinkletoes swansea specialize in

every honest toiler has their day

rooney didn't snub ireland he couldn't oust keane/quinn

from the past five years

given
baines
distin
dunne
??rb??
muamba
murphy
ireland
ablongahor
fletcher
zamora

seamus coleman shld be in there somewhere i guess.

wld have said downing or young for width but they dont count any more. would have said n'zonzi instead of muamba for DM but was going for the 'kinda british thing.

oh shit distin obv not british. chuck in taylor for lols.

Given/Dunne/Ireland not British either, you imperialist dog

eh you knew what i was going for

Fletcher has maybe been a bit of a sicknote, which may've scared bigger clubs away. This run has been the longest sustained period of fitness he's managed with Wolves. He's better than a goal poacher but not a complete forward by any means, one of those guys who gets himself in the right spot and has the talent and composure to convert the chances he gets, but imo he goes missing for stretches - he's never gonna be the team engine. But if he can score 15 plus in a Prem season that's a valuable commodity right there.

you're lucky ilf doesn't tend toward the hypersensitivity of the rest of the site with that attitude imo

i didnt go through the ronaldinho bottle opener wars for nothing

i didn't presume you suffered it just to thumb yr nose at 800 years of persecution tbh

The ilf gender thread will be a treat.

http://www.epltalk.com/media/2011/01/andy-gray-richard-keys.jpg

lock thread

we fuckin had it, i took a break afterwards ffs

'how can I be sexist, totti is one of my favourite players?'

interesting that the sky sports news ticker doesn't reveal the nature of ravel morrison's alleged twitter comments. they're just "twitter comments".

do they mention that they're homophobic at least? I mean I wouldn't expect them to break out the other f word.