THE MASTER (2012) P.T. Anderson's film on the origions of Scientology (sort of), Starring Philip Seymour Hoffman, Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams, and Laura Dern

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stoked for the madness.

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

No running time...Haven't unequivocally loved a PTA film since Boogie Nights, but every one's an adventure.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha wow, this is going to be great

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 07:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 07:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm saying!!

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's a casting call soon for some of the WWII scenes being shot here

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

is pta really going to take two years making this? i'd guess he isn't aiming for a january 2013 release. had thought he was doing 'vineland' with robert downey jr too. look forward to that towards the end of the decade.

sarahel hath no fury (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

sounds like he started filming in June.

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Great as this sounds I hope the Inherent Vice adaptation comes first.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

is pta really going to take two years making this? i'd guess he isn't aiming for a january 2013 release. had thought he was doing 'vineland' with robert downey jr too. look forward to that towards the end of the decade.

without knowing much about it or how these things work, i read somewhere that they were maybe gonna film the two things back to back & then edit, with the assumption that editing would take a year, per there will be blood

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 11:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

stoked for the madness.

― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 11:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's titled "The Master" yet there is no John Simm to be found. Sad.

Super Villains With Drum Machines (MintIce), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

no no credibility

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

jesse plemons of FNL as PSHs son is intrstng

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 13:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am not confident that this will be a better Scientology film than Mock Up on Mu:

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/the-forgotten-sticky-figments

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 August 2011 04:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

sounds like he started filming in June.

― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 9:45 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah http://www.ifc.com/news/2011/06/paul-thomas-anderson-the-master-photos.php

caek, Saturday, 6 August 2011 04:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

Also I'm terribly amused by that Mare Island link just above as I lived there from 1979 to 1981 when it was still a Navy base.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

stoked for the madness.

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― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:19 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

like this idea. would be cool to see what films buffet and gates would throw their money behind.

beachville, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

philip seymour hoffman and joaquin phoenix, laura dern and amy adams

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

p.t. anderson and, er, himself

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Thursday, 8 March 2012 12:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Something something or other:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/movies/paul-thomas-anderson-film-may-be-about-scientology.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Worth embedding! Maybe this link will let it happen?

Walter Galt, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ah hell. Well, yeah, it looks pretty intriguing. Phoenix almost looks like Fassbender there. Pretty excited.

Walter Galt, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

<3 joaquin

johnny crunch, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

fucking amazing trailer

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Was just about to post it. Great, great stuff.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh hell yes

judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

nice.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Excellent - can't wait for some Hubbard footage

Brakhage, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rah! Just watched it twice through. I'm stoked.

how's life, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

the only way i could be more psyched for this is if there are aleister crowley & jack parsons analogues in the movie because their association w/ the hubb

judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is pretty much exactly what a trailer should be. hope the movie is that good!

tylerw, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost -- got that goddamn right

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

the only way i could be more psyched for this is if there are aleister crowley & jack parsons analogues in the movie because their association w/ the hubb

omg what if

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 May 2012 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

is he making a boob out of sand?

caek, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

how would you rate your overall health?

strrrong

caek, Monday, 21 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually you know, what if the whole supposition has been a bit of a blind and it IS all about Hubbard/Parsons/Crowley rather than just Hubbard straight up? The time period is right given the look of the trailer, and it suits the title.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

will lose my shit if there's a Parsons (or Crowley) analogue in this

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

amy adams as marjorie cameron???

probably not tho!

judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

radiohead's jonny greenwood is doing the score for this, for those who care about such things. i thought he did a fantastic job with both There Will Be Blood and Norwegian Wood.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

was there ever a movie made about parsons? that entire story with the three of them is so bonkers

dell (del), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought the music in that trailer sounded very similar to Greenwood's TWBB score.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh i would watch this for the wrestling seamen alone #pvmic

judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i almost auditioned to be an extra in that scene!!!

♆ (gr8080), Monday, 21 May 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

gr8080, mind if I change the year in the thread title now that it has a 2012 release date?

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Monday, 21 May 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

BTW, saw "magnolia" again perhaps for the first time since having a family of my own, and my response was very different from what I felt the first time I saw it. It was pretty devastating. Still had more than its share of show-offy bits and indulgences, but I love its go-for-broke ambitiousness. Again, that's why I think he needed to do "Punch Drunk Love." He had to force himself in a different direction, because the melodrama and filmmaking of "Magnolia" was about as far in that direction as he could go.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I should say that I don't pretend to understand everything Farber says there--he could be pretty cryptic. The central idea, yes, but I'm not holding The Master's frieze of continuities against it, primarily because I haven't a clue what that means.

I've never gone back to Boogie Nights and not loved everything I first loved about it. Certain moments will come back to me in the middle of the day--"Those are great names!"--and I'll smile. I would have been 36 when it came out...I understand what you mean, though; the teenaged me venerated many films that fell woefully short later (e.g., Manhattan).

I've been all over the place with Magnolia: knocked out initially, found it oppressive within two or three more viewings, went back to it last year and, exactly, loved its go-for-broke ambitiousness.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think the concept of 'termite art,' as least the way farber defines it there, excludes almost anyone who had any self-conscious artistic ambitions for their work. actual '70s porn films would probably qualify before 'boogie nights' would.

but i've gotta admit i've never quite understood what farber was talking about in that essay -- like, the concepts of 'white elephant art' and 'termite art' make perfect sense until you go back and read farber and he hits you with like four impossible concepts per sentence. like what exactly does it mean to 'treat every inch of the screen and film as a potential area for prizeworthy creativity'? do any films actually do that?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's like the "metaphysics of filmic presence" or something--not really a concept that withstands scrutiny.

ryan, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was super into this, a lot of it kind of felt like a horror movie to me in that i was waiting for some crazy sick thing to happen out of these long lingering situations.

i think my only objection is the lingering "lol bitches" misogyny that PTA trucks in (amy adams as the fanatic enforcer, laura dern as the textually alert dupe -- both of whom were flat out great tho). idk i might be overreading that, but it was def one of the things (among many) that me me hate punch drunk love

goole, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw if you get this on disc definitely watch the deleted scenes! a bunch of fairly useful info is in them.

i dug it, although as per usual with PTA theres sort of a weird pacing resulting in a kind of lifeless last 30 minutes imo

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked their relationship, just two guys who want to have adventures surrounded by a band of joyless pedants.

i really couldn't get this out of my head either, lol

so, dodd through force of his hucksterism had built this entire structure around himself, but it turns out, it's kind of lame and constricting. if you are going to make yourself a leader of a crowd you end up with duties to that crowd, you end up at their mercy still. quell comes to mean something untameable, untreatable and yeah, fun

for quell, what was the implication? he was this screwed-up dude who fell into this cult's orbit for a while but was too dumb and sick and drunk for it to really take (being fake). turns out he just wanted to get laid.

goole, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

def looked beautiful tho

kind of a minor point but i appreciated PTA's use of the specifics of ethnic america (the filipino farmhands, the scandinavian family) overall the periodicity was terrific (the recording equipment, the cigarettes, the hair, the typefaces)

goole, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

the repeated shot of the ocean churning behind the ship was gorgeous

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

jjj did you watch the huston doc that's attached?

goole, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

that ocean shot made me almost gasp in 70mm. that's the main reason I'm afraid to watch it again--that feeling seemed so basic for the movie.

ryan, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was blown away and I watched it on boring old dvd, so I think the cinematography def holds up :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

but I know what you mean

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

ah crap i forgot about the huston doc and dropped it in the redbox this morning. lame.

this movie in bluray is intense fyi

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think I'm gonna buy it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've never gone back to Boogie Nights and not loved everything I first loved about it. Certain moments will come back to me in the middle of the day--"Those are great names!"--and I'll smile.

Talking about restaurants often calls to mind "Good? It's not good. It's probably the best place to eat in Los Angeles. It's excellent."

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I drop the YP/MP industry jargon bit now and then, and no one ever gets it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can imagine a script like Boogie Nights spilling out of him. Then I imagine Magnolia taking more refinement. Then PDL I could imagine being about excising tons of stuff until a movie appears. The last two I imagine took a hell of a lot of discipline.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i still think about the motorcycle escape scene all the time

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I drop the YP/MP industry jargon bit now and then, and no one ever gets it.

Okay, now you're talking above my head.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2013 03:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

saw this again finally, and again it pretty much leaves me exactly as it found me--i said upthread it was "desultory" and i still think that holds for me, if something can be desultory and sort of stifling in the rigidity of its conception at the same time. the two-shot in the jail scene is poignant but still borders on banality..

i do like how freddie's slow realization that dodd is fully of shit is underplayed. the look on his face when dodd says the key is "laughter." I think this is the point of the motorcycle scene actually. there may be further nuances that are also underplayed that I have missed. it's implied that freddie knows dodd is full of shit from the beginning and correctly sees through the whole enterprise as a con but at the same time yearns for what he offers.

ryan, Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

also loved when it's revealed that freddie asked "what's something like that worth?" in regard to dodd's manuscript he basically voices the unspoken heart of the matter.

ryan, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

so on re-viewing i wonder why Amy Adams' "You either do this for a billion years or not at all" is not recognized as a greater punchline than "I drink your milkshake."

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 June 2013 19:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

乒乓, Monday, 24 June 2013 12:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

xp: one is some cocky shit that would play well in a business meeting, the other is not.

Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Monday, 24 June 2013 13:13 (9 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

finally saw this on the weekend and damn it was frustrating. big takeaway was this, basically:

This guy thinks HE'S the Master...but his wife just ordered him around while yankin his crank, so who's REALLY the Master, bam.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:03 PM (5 months ago)

andrew m., Monday, 9 September 2013 15:40 (7 months ago) Permalink

agree on the strength/weird set up the first 30 mins achieves

andrew m., Monday, 9 September 2013 15:41 (7 months ago) Permalink

I liked their relationship, just two guys who want to have adventures surrounded by a band of joyless pedants.

― lag∞n, Monday, October 1, 2012 2:23 PM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the key to this film

caek, Monday, 9 September 2013 18:19 (7 months ago) Permalink

otm

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:26 (7 months ago) Permalink

definitely a lot of nods to super mario in this... the plumbing-like environment of the torpedo hold, the way joaquin seemed to "grow" in stature after eating the "mushroom" of PSH's knowledge

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, October 1, 2012 1:28 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

just saw this today - loved it. i found it funny almost all the way through. a bit of googling yielded a phoenix interview in which he said he thought it was a comedy when he first read a rough cut of it.

i can't stop watching this scene, it's fucking brilliant and hilarious:

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:06 (7 months ago) Permalink

check the dude with the pipe doing a funky little strut near the end after the incredible "everybody!"

btw i really felt seymour-hoffman had a ron burgundy thing going on in this, not even saying that as a criticism, he just had this pompous straight man thing. also dr evil.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:08 (7 months ago) Permalink

definitely a lot of nods to super mario in this... the plumbing-like environment of the torpedo hold, the way joaquin seemed to "grow" in stature after eating the "mushroom" of PSH's knowledge

― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, October 1, 2012 1:28 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― i too went to college (silby), Monday, September 9, 2013 2:27 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

lmao

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:26 (7 months ago) Permalink

i liked this movie but i still kind of feel like PTA's movies are these big arty empty gestures

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 16 September 2013 02:15 (7 months ago) Permalink

I'm okay with those. Small empty arty gestures, nah.

WmC, Monday, 16 September 2013 02:22 (7 months ago) Permalink

name some big arty full gestures of the 21st century

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 September 2013 02:35 (7 months ago) Permalink

Yeezus

bad bad disco (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2013 02:40 (7 months ago) Permalink

nah amateurist is right: this is the only big non-empty gesture he's made

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 02:41 (7 months ago) Permalink

the one way i guess they are not empty gestures, at least the last 2 films, is in their deliberate lack of commercial potential, despite costing a bunch. and i guess that's to be welcomed, just to keep the american art cinema alive. and b/c of all that it's hard to really resent PTA. but yeah i think he's both talented and really full of hot air.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 16 September 2013 09:47 (7 months ago) Permalink

i guess i've tried to make my case esp. on the TWBB thread...

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 16 September 2013 09:47 (7 months ago) Permalink

name some big arty full gestures of the 21st century

― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't know about arty but i was pretty impressed with the thoughtfulness of rise of the planet of the apes, actually. despite its flaws, which i would scarcely deny, there was meat on its bones.

in terms of artier stuff, i don't know, i didn't think take shelter was blowing smoke.

if you go beyond US there's plenty of stuff...

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 16 September 2013 09:52 (7 months ago) Permalink

i enjoyed the master so much more than twbb. again because i found it funny - it was prob kind to lrh, i reckon he's far crazier than lancaster todd having read barefaced messiah, but there still was definitely some of the same comic madness to him that comes across in that book. and the sense of this general madness in the organisation.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 September 2013 09:53 (7 months ago) Permalink

but honestly morbz i don't really know how to answer your question b/c i don't really ask my films to be thematically ambitious w/ grand gestures and stuff. but PTA's stuff is inarguably grand in scale, not a little pretentious, and bombastic. so i was really just saying that the films feel a bit hollow for all that, even the newer one which as noted I liked a lot better than TWBB.

i've noted before that PTA's films (at least since the adam sandler one) get a lot of their charge from a kind of rhetoric of refusal... a refusal of the familiar sorts of narrative arcs, characterization, etc. that most filmgoers expect. they seem to be built almost as a series of perverse gestures in reaction to what might be expected of them. at least to a point. and there are worse ways to make films. but there are better ways, too, i suspect.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 16 September 2013 10:01 (7 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

watched this for the first time since the theatre, cuz psh. he reminded me of welles a lil here. first half, maybe a little more, is riveting, and i love the jarring elisions: the cut from phoenix hopping onto the yacht to him asleep in the bunk, and then hoffman filling him in with "you became aggressive because you drank too much alcohol" -- huge laugh for me this time. excellent use of pop songs, including the paired set of "don't sit under the apple tree" (longing to be home) and "slow boat to china" (longing to be away) but also that great gratuitous circuit the coat girl does of the dept store to ella singing "get thee behind me satan". finally, i loved hoffman striking goldwater poses in the arizona desert. nevertheless i spent most of the second half trying to remember the exact wording of this hilarious post:

This guy thinks HE'S the Master...but his wife just ordered him around while yankin his crank, so who's REALLY the Master, bam.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:03 PM (5 months ago)

bam.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 07:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

"trillions?" "WITH A T."

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 08:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

even tho this is partly a movie abt alcoholism it's also such a testament to the fun of getting wasted w a bro; these scenes are really vivid and sensual. phoenix's stagger, hoffman's happy ego. you can smell their breath.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 08:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

the paired set of "don't sit under the apple tree" (longing to be home) and "slow boat to china" (longing to be away)

woah good ear

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 12:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

I liked their relationship, just two guys who want to have adventures surrounded by a band of joyless pedants

― lag∞n, Monday, October 1, 2012 9:23 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 01:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Finally watched this, looked terrific on Blu-Ray, major LOLZ when looking at the beginning of this thread and everyone thinking this movie was gonna have Alesteir Crowley/Jack Parsons/blowing the lid off OT VII shit in it. What was in there was very very close to the actual shit that happens in Scientology but was completely irrelevant to the movie anyway.

Dunno why his book was buried in the ground.

Because the mind-blowing revelations that he has spent the last year or so "discovering" before publishing have really been locked in a box in the desert for who knows how long.

dow totally OTM above about Phoenix and David M. in "Going Clear" - the sudden outbursts of violence whenever anyone threatens the movement. That was literally the first thing I thought of. Plus the history of Scientology going to great lengths to silence its critics.

bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 02:54 (1 month ago) Permalink


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