DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

even if Hillsborough didn't happen and the Sun wasn't such a horrible jingoistic piece of shit paper, look at the company he's keeping ffs

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75505000/jpg/_75505722_camsun.jpg

maybe he's trying to send a subtle message through the fact that he's the only one of the 4 not actually reading it?

i don't know what kind of message is that

Just found out about this passport thing. I sent mine in for renewal a few weeks ago! I guess all overseas applicants will get an extension? I already hate Theresa May tho'.

well, only Michael White is relevant there. Talking about the main Westminster beat correspondents, him, Martin Kettle, Patrick Wintour. Yeah, they give those others space on the comments, but the slant of the paper's political news reporting is plainly anti-Miliband.

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Sterling work today.

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ffs

1. ffs
2. wtf
3. middle stage is quite Jim Hacker, no?
4. ffs wtf

middle stage is quite Jim Hacker, no?

THANK YOU, spent the last 2 hours trying to work out who that was reminding me of

Having dissonance here because the last two news broadcasts I've seen featured reporters doing vox pops where they're out asking people if they think Ed Miliband sucks, getting four out of five respondents who say 'he's all right, I like him' and then not even acknowledging that their sample is fine with dude before going back to the studio to talk about all this trouble he's in because he had problems eating a bacon sandwich at a photocall. FFS.

Blunkett... Hain... Straw... any more worthless cunts planning to throw in the towel any time soon? Roll up now!

(Actually I don't know if Straw is standing down... I heartily recommend it though)

We shouldn't overlook the very important detail that Ed M really does suck.

It's like when opposing football fans sing "you're shit and you know you are" and you hate them for it but mostly because it's true.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/24/andy-coulson-rebekah-brooks-phone-hacking-trial

Hmmm.

Seems extraordinary that Brooks could walk but there you go.

Seen that '10,600 dead after being declared fit for work by ATOS' pic doing the rounds. Looked for source, there is none, decided it was clearly made up/trolling but the thing keeps resurfacing and it turns out it is based on a badly written FOI response (according to Telegraph: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100279306/the-10600-people-died-within-six-weeks-of-being-declared-fit-to-work-by-atos-stat-is-simply-wrong/)

Clearly ATOS are appalling but this 10,600 figure doesn't really have anything to do with that. And clearly to see the real extent of ATOS shittiness you'd have to compare actual outcomes and numbers vs those that occur 'naturally' in the general population. But people seem to be resistant to this e.g. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/real-life/john-niven-how-can-cameron-3849719
"what number IS acceptable then?" http://twitter.com/NivenJ1

There's obviously a story here - but am I the only one who finds this attitude frustrating and simply contributing to the disinformation that allows orgs like ATOS to carry on being appalling? People just blindly accepting /retweeting without requesting their own FOI figures/looking for real data to get to the real story?

people blindly reposting terrible statistical bullshit is pathetic and unhelpful 97 percent of the time

most won't have the guts to repost this

Uhhh, can't begin to parse the stupidity required to believe '10,600 people died within six weeks of being declared fit to work by Atos'

I know, hence my assumption it was loltrolling
Even my brother who blindly posts stuff of this sort has been attacking the logic - I'm almost proud...

tbh this stuff washes over me, when i first saw the headline i thought it was about suicides or something, but my first thought was "lol bullshit stats"

my general rule of thumb is if it's on the internet and there's no link to source data, it's probably made up. (Sorry, local petitions/campaigners who actually have a legit case to make, but come on).

so I tend to take no notice. It's more this second stage of writers being called on it and the response being 'well even one is too many' or 'it doesn't change the point of the piece' - the idea that demanding data to base your decisions on is in some way 'pedantic' (something I have often been accused of, usually by people who have been trying to manipulate me)

sure. if your argument doesn't rely on statistics then making some up diminishes rather than strengthens yr case.

people blindly reposting terrible statistical bullshit is pathetic and unhelpful 97 percent of the time

most won't have the guts to repost this

like

It also feeds into the rightist myth that critics of the government are soft-headed and don't understand the severity of the situation we are in.

timing of this reshuffle is awful. much as I am glad to see Gove in particular get tae fuck, half of twitter now thinks Clarke, Gove and Hague are on the paedo list.

First thing I thought when I heard that Hague was resigning (and stepping down as an MP also) was, right there's some revelation about to come out, else they're worried it's coming out... but that's the times we live in!

Anyone know much about Nicky Morgan? She's replacing Gove.

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also anti-abortion, anti-equal marriage

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Loughborough-MP-Nicky-Morgan-explains-voted/story-18148357-detail/story.html

*slow hand clap*

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

well i read the big thing in the mirror on sunday with the guy coming out saying he arranged underage rent boys for tories in the eighties... was told by a young hague & an unnamed civil servant to shut the fuck up and bury it.

XP wasn't Hague implicated in suppression of earlier paedophile related reports? that'd be enough rly

I'm skeptical of the Mirror story, or at least how much it will stick. But if true - the tarring of the Thatcher brand would also be destructive for the current Tories too, surely, no matter whether they've flushed the ranks of Thatcher-era MPs?

haven't seen the mirror story but this was from a few years back

Gove is way too new an MP to have been involved, his demotion is probably a result of unilaterally deciding to start a fight with Theresa May.

Yes. He is not of this Earth so can't imagine him being involved in any sort of hanky panky. Hague is another matter.

Latest Private Eye suggests, p plausibly, that Gove is being 'groomed' to take over as Editor of the Daily Mail from Dacre - he's been wined and dined a lot by Rothermere recently - so his conflict w/ May and demotion may actually be part of a larger exit strategy.

I can't really remember Hague having done anything egregiously awful as foreign secretary tbh, most of the major foreign policy blunders seem to have been Cameron's.

That's usually the way with Foreign Secretary/ Prime Minister.

Gove has definitely fucked kids tbf

The pix of Hague and Savile together are a bit ewwwwww and on the nose, but because of source, not linking.

His funny voice notwithstanding, Hague seemed like one of the more competent/less fucking enraging Tories.

I will always be grateful to him for doing his best to make the Tories unelectable during his time as leader.

Hague's 20-pints-a-night wildman image just too strong for dealing with sensitive Muslim allies

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

trouble is that every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

This reshuffle suggests that the election campaign has started early - the election campaign for the next Tory leader that is - and that May has pulled ahead of Osborne.

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

plus removed to where