just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Movie thread

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this could very well be terrible but it also looks like it could be fun in an indiana jones/hellboy kinda way.

in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2011 10:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sky Captain of Tomorrow meets Watchman. Snoozefest.. I’d say domestic hits 150 and international roughly the same. Won’t be profitable. You’ve seen one of these movies, you’ve seen them all. Twank on Playlist.

By ryan on June 23, 2011

in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2011 10:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

glib, bitter fanboy-speak is something to behold

in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Friday, 24 June 2011 10:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

you know what cracks me up whenever i see a trailer for this, is the shot of tony stark's dad checking out post-transformation Cap while doing the "daaaamn!" looking over his sunglasses move thats usually reserved for guys scoping out hot babes in teen comedies

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

holy crap you're right!

skinny arbuckle (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Shade Tippin'

skinny arbuckle (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Or you're Sam Neill scoping out a hot brachiosaur

Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Capt America with a gun what kind of bullshit is that

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

preposterous

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

more like two guns am I right?

http://i.imgur.com/jKOSW.jpg

Ktulu says, I've come to hate my body (wk), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ktulu says, I've come to hate my body (wk), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol

Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah I've seen WWII Cap comics - in general the character hasn't been portrayed with a gun for decades though

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

(recent Joe Quesada years being an exception obviously)

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 July 2011 16:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bucky-as-Cap has been using a gun the last couple of years.

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

like I said...

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but this is a period piece, so . . .

xxp

Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

right, sorry, misread that
xp

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I know this is a period piece, but there are plenty of post-40s instances of Cap being portrayed in WWII without a gun (Invaders in the 70s springs to mind). The fact is, once the war was ACTUALLY over, portraying Cap with a gun went out the window, for the most part.

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

And?

Number None, Thursday, 7 July 2011 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of looking forward to this, I think the WWII setting is a good move.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/movies/chris-evans-in-captain-america-the-first-avenger.html?hpw

Mr. Evans said he resisted a test audition, for which he would have had to sign a pre-emptive deal for as many as nine Marvel movies, including three “Captain America” films and three films for “The Avengers,” about the super group that includes Iron Man, Thor and the Hulk. When Marvel reduced the contract to at most six movies and “sweetened the pot a little bit,” Mr. Evans said no again.

nine movies for an audition? that seems kind of chilling.

j., Tuesday, 12 July 2011 05:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Some alternate/international posters

Really liking this one:

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 16 July 2011 08:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that one surfaced a couple of months back and I was surprised they didn't go full-on for that as a regular choice!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 July 2011 13:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Shield Action!

Looking forward to this. I trust Joe Johnston.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure the guy who had Evans shave his chest would've had Liz Taylor wear brown contacts.

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh I'm sure.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

also, his pecs are freakishly big. There was nothing wrong with them before.

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well they kinda need to be.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

never forget

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

That image is the gift that keeps on giving.

My Boyfriend Could Be A Spanish Man (R Baez), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jeffrey Wells is going gaga about this, oddly.

Number None, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mr. Downey was an early supporter of Mr. Evans, having quietly lobbied Mr. Evans’s agent to keep him from passing on “Captain America.”

“I did the Eastern medicine approach,” Mr. Downey explained. “Rather than apply direct pressure, I went to the furthest meridian point.”

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

hayley atwell is some kind o' somethin'

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Meantime, some cheap laughs:

http://www.agonybooth.com/video_shows/The_Following_Special_Presentation/Captain_America.aspx

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 22:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ebert likes it, calling it "a real movie, not a noisy assembly of incomprehensible special effects," and of course closes with See it in 2-D if you can.

BIG HOOBA aka the stankdriver (Phil D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Lots of positive reviews, calling it the anti-Michael Bay, in essence.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2011 12:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

its pretty good. workmanlike. very little fat. ebert's otm about it feeling like a real movie, and how that feels like a relief after shit like green lantern. it reminded me of the first spider-man in its earnest approach to the material, though it's not as good. the actress who plays peggy carter is... uncommonly beautiful, almost distractingly so. could've used more stanley tucci.

this movie kinda made me realize that basically all superhero origin movies are failures as action flicks. either the staging falls flat (spider-man 1) or the complete absence of stakes or danger is deflating (thor, captain america). when these movies are good, it's usually because they find ways to be appealing aside from the whizbang element (like batman begins, i guess).

there's an avengers teaser trailer after the credits

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED (Princess TamTam), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

first superhero movie since iron man 1 I've wanted to see. sounds great, hope this sets the tone for the rest of the Avengers movies.

akm, Friday, 22 July 2011 13:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

when these movies are good, it's usually because they find ways to be appealing aside from the whizbang element (like batman begins, i guess).

Interesting, cuz I still prefer the first two X-Men movies, the first Burton Batman, and bits of the two Iron Man things best.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I really liked the first Iron Man when it came out but tried to watch it again recently and found it a chore. The second one was just horrible.

Number None, Friday, 22 July 2011 13:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

basically I like a volatile mix of sharp dialogue and a very slight veneer of seriousness. Nolan can't write dialogue or stage action.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

that is true but for some reason his batman movies are still really good. I'm not sure why. the actual plots are good and he does suspense pretty well.

akm, Friday, 22 July 2011 13:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

first half of iron man when he's building robots in a cave was great, second half with the jeff bridges robot was always pretty lame.

sonderangerbot, Friday, 22 July 2011 13:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

hayley atwell is some kind o' somethin'

nrq, are u such a relentless horndog in your published crizizism?

you call it trollin' i call it steamrollin' (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm more confident in nolan's ability to stage an action scene these days than i used to be; i just think the batsuit is limiting for any hand to hand fight scenes. more importantly, he understands suspense and the value of a real sense of danger. i just used batman begins as an example because the first half is fairly engaging (imo) and once he becomes batman the movie sorta deflates. the promise of action is usually more potent than the presence of it in these movies

the first iron man is fun, but the action in it is weightless - you get the sense downey & co could carry the movie even if he never put the suit on. you wouldn't be able to say the same thing about one of the bourne movies, for better or worse

DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED (Princess TamTam), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

It helps that RDJ is pretty much the walking embodiment of Tony Stark in both look and attitude.

PAJAMARALLS? PAJAMALWAYS! (DJP), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't really get the Bourne comparison?

Number None, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

integral action vs. window-dressing, i think?

remy bean, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

This movie was hella corny and boring.

Sample dialogue from a fight scene:

Bad guy: "You never give up, do you?"
Captain: "Nope!"

Bleh.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 24 July 2011 05:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Could someone who has seen it comment on the action:dialog ratio. My kid and I have been to every movie in this Avengers sequence, but for some reason he is convinced that this one will have "too much grown-ups talking".

kkvgz, Thursday, 28 July 2011 13:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was a pretty decent balance, and the action scenes are well-shot. Plus, every single word out of Tommy Lee Jones's mouth is gold. He's basically playing "Gen. Tommy Lee Jones" but his performance is the unsung hero of the movie. Dominic Cooper is good, too.

BIG HOOBA aka the stankdriver (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

xxpost That sounds like some typical Simon & Kirby dialogue! I've got to see this.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed this.

an excellent source of vitamins and minerals (WmC), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

I like you, CAPTAIN AMERICA the movie.

The plot-heavy bits involving lasers and girders were alright, but I was surprised by the emotional investment I put in. That last line in the movie packed a mighty punch for me.

Sean Connery dressed up like a teddy bear (R Baez), Sunday, 31 July 2011 02:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just saw this, enjoyed it. Was a bit disappointed that they didn't bother to name the Howling Commandos, but by and large a good matinee affair.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 31 July 2011 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

i though this kinda stunk.

took solace amid the endless montages with the supporting cast. tell me hugo weaving wasn't just doing a werner herzog impression the whole time?

you can't unhear it now can you.

goole, Monday, 1 August 2011 04:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

augh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 August 2011 04:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

fell asleep in this

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 August 2011 04:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like I should be glad I took my kid to Cowboys & Aliens instead. It was definitely an entertaining action movie, if not exactly "Ordinary People" or whatever...

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 13:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought this wasn't too bad, most likely the best of the summer comic book flicks of 2011, but that isn't really saying a whole lot. Tommy Lee Jones was over the top in all the right ways and Dominic Cooper made a great Howard Stark. Loved the guy playing Dum Dum Dugan too, wouldn't mind seeing more of him in other movies, but thats not likely with him stuck in the 40s and the rumored next Cap movie set in the present day.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

i thought the ending was kinda...pat?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

The ending was 100% to set up the Avengers flick, which was really my only complaint. I mean, I'm super excited for the Avengers movie but can we let these other films stand on their own?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

tell me hugo weaving wasn't just doing a werner herzog impression the whole time?

Yeah, he's talked about this in interviews. Quite an accurate one too

Number None, Monday, 1 August 2011 21:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha love it

goole, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone talked about the planet of the apes trailer anywhere because lol.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought this was OK but not great. TLJ and Tucci were p good as was the lead. Something was missing overall and I thought it was a little boring.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

It was kinda boring wasn't it? I really thought i'd love it too

Number None, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

too much of the captain's operations were glossed over in montage. i don't know why movies do this, the kinds of 'learning' scenes of a hero figuring out how to be a hero are the most exciting. it just skipped from him being a show pony to a badass, which is just ho-hum.

and the dialogue was really childish.

i dunno anything about red skull or 'hydra', but i thought making him a rogue to the point of being against the germans was weirdly excusing of fascism? like johnston didn't even want the to deal with the realness at all, as if 'raiders of the lost ark' was too much like 'the sorrow and the pity' or something.

goole, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't really see how Raiders was anymore realistic?

Number None, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I had the same thoughts about them ducking the issue of fascism by making Hydra even turn against the Nazis, but then I remembered that this was a movie about super-serum and a man being frozen for 70 years.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

captain america fought nazis! what the hell, why get squeamish now

goole, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Easier to sell toys that don't come with swastikas, basically.

Sean Connery dressed up like a teddy bear (R Baez), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's not like they made up Hydra for the film. They're probably sowing the seeds for their appearance in future movies too

Number None, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

In order to become a member of HYDRA, an individual must be a legal adult willing to submit to a thorough investigation of the applicant's personal background and to swear a death-oath of loyalty to HYDRA and its principles.

Glad to know they thoroughly vet all their members

Number None, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol hydra background check

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Thought this was a lot better than ok.

Highlights-

Kid chucked in water to create 'him or me' dilemma being all 'wtf i can swim go get im'

Cpt America sneaking into HYDRA base is quite clearly spotted crossing the floor by one of the workers, who just isn't bothered tbh

Thank fuck it was about beating evil bad guys, was quite worried it might go the Nolan route of SRS ISSUES THRU SPANDEX

Peggy was incredible

CH3C(O)N(CH3)2 (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well the Marvel films in general are a lot more light-hearted than the Nolanverse. As they should be. Peggy was pretty great yeah. Pity that's the last we're going to see of her

Number None, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kid chucked in water to create 'him or me' dilemma being all 'wtf i can swim go get im'

this ruled

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^ LOL yeah I forgot about that, that kid is my hero

Dave Zuul (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well the Marvel films in general are a lot more light-hearted than the Nolanverse. As they should be.

This is one of the reasons I enjoyed this movie. It was like an old Captain America comic, it wasn't trying to be edgy or dark in an attempt to be more modern.

online pinata store (Nicole), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

The kid in the water and Tommy Lee Jones ruled ("I'm not gonna kiss you"). The rest = bleh

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

in retrospect the whole thing was kind of a bland saturday morning cartoon. the word 'toyetic' was made for this movie

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I forgot how much fun TLJ can be in Fugitive mode.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

dug this the first time through, but the second, i really noticed how aimless and overstretched the second half is. still a pretty good time, though.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp yeah, he's a guy where i never hold it against him when he sleepwalks through a movie because hes usually still a lot of fun

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

hayley atwell is some kind o' somethin'

otm.

but seriously, i did like they chose an actress who is hot in precisely the same way as 1940s actresses were hot.

overall this was alright. TLJ is was good. surprised he doesn't get these kind of roles more often. maybe he doesn't take them.

ryan, Sunday, 16 December 2012 02:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Almost sounds like he's doing it for shits and giggles.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 March 2013 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbf at his age neither come easy

mister borges (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 March 2013 15:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Legal Piddles

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2013 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw that movie in a theater, so bad.

rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Saturday, 23 March 2013 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just remember a bunch of shitty/stupid ads for that thing running endlessly and "Love Touch" constantly being on the radio. Fuckin' 1985.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 March 2013 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's at least awake in LE. And Terence Stamp is fun.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Finally watched this. Pretty similar to Iron Man in that I was way more into the first half of it than I thought I'd be, then really lost my connection with it as it moved from the origin to the 'action' and the climactic fight with the bad guy. It sort of rallied itself for the big finish with the plane; I loved how kind of tame and 40s and melodramatic they played it, like, yeah, you know what, in 2011 you can still get tears to well up with just a guy and the gal who like each other (but have never even held hands) having their last conversation while he goes off to be a hero, etc. Just wish it had been built up to that a little better... feel like a lot of movies these days have this too-smooth CGI quality and I think that applies to the plotting too sometimes, it just kind of slides its way along from the baddie fight scene to the sacrifice etc.

Agree that giving the bad guys bloodless ray guns and having them not be Nazis was a super disappointing head-scratcher. I mean, I'm fine with it being the Red Skull and Hydra goons but can they have a little more ideology, something to really make you hate them? The movie's fucking Captain America, I think the time for subtlety has passed. That being said, I was just over the moon for the idea of Cap as a seasoned USO entertainment veteran who's "punched out Hitler over two hundred times" - it's cute, it adds tons of period flavor, makes everybody feel more like people than CGI people, which I think was a real risk with this potentially one-note, personality-less character and this kind of blank, bland actor.

Overall, not the worst of these things I've seen.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 June 2013 04:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

I mean, I'm fine with it being the Red Skull and Hydra goons but can they have a little more ideology, something to really make you hate them

they are transhumanists

j., Friday, 5 July 2013 06:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

Finally watching this. Completely forgot that they got Joe Johnston to direct. All of the period dieselpunk/art-deco vibe seems perfect for him, and everything he tried to do with The Rocketeer twenty years earlier.

The ropey CGI work from pre-serum Rogers to some of his early stunts is intolerable and almost inexcusable, tho. Just use real stuntmen and erase the wires, that's what computers are for.

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Monday, 21 April 2014 03:58 (7 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

This was great!

Nhex, Friday, 23 May 2014 03:18 (6 months ago) Permalink


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