i was trying to explain libertarianism to my buddy today and i wish i'd had that at my disposal
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 1 July 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
it's like being a liberal without having to give a shit about the fact that there are people poorer than you.
oh, it's kind of like what the Obama administration has become!
― KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 2 July 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
― KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Saturday, July 2, 2011 1:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
without the liberal part...
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 2 July 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
would yall fucking stop
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 2 July 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
love a HOOS, but i love a gubbamint too
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 July 2011 06:18 (twelve years ago) link
non-sequitor in the context of whatever discussion's going down in this thread right now (i'm not following along), but important in the context of the bigger picture of ilx right wing threads in 2011
http://imgur.com/sxWcx
― ⓢⓤⓟⓘⓕⓨⓞⓤ©ⓐⓝⓡⓔⓐⓓⓣⓗⓘⓢ (markers), Monday, 4 July 2011 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
. . .
http://i.imgur.com/sxWcx.gif
― ⓢⓤⓟⓘⓕⓨⓞⓤ©ⓐⓝⓡⓔⓐⓓⓣⓗⓘⓢ (markers), Monday, 4 July 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
all those moments will be lost in time
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 July 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
like bamans in the rain
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 4 July 2011 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/TeaPartyFourthOfJuly.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjkUZCLvC3Q
― Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
does that guy's shirt say "yup. i'm a racist" ?
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
yup
― g++ (gbx), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
The other one says "Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11."
― Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
I like the guy wearing a fubu shirt in the backgroundsingin393 12 hours ago
― gr8080+ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
had that same thought
― the day the world turned dayo, u kno u kno (goole), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
they think they're so clever...
u crazy for this one marshall home:
Fringe activist Marshall Home, who has filed a series of court documents to try to take over the bankruptcy case of Chicago pizza chain Giordano’s, was put behind bars on Friday.Home was arrested in Tucson, Ariz., in connection with court papers he filed to try to force the United States into bankruptcy—a separate case that Home used as part of a fraudulent scam to help struggling homeowners keep their properties, according to the U.S. attorney’s office. That bankruptcy case, which was thrown out of court on May 18, led authorities to charge Home with two felony counts of filing false claims in bankruptcy court.
Home was arrested in Tucson, Ariz., in connection with court papers he filed to try to force the United States into bankruptcy—a separate case that Home used as part of a fraudulent scam to help struggling homeowners keep their properties, according to the U.S. attorney’s office. That bankruptcy case, which was thrown out of court on May 18, led authorities to charge Home with two felony counts of filing false claims in bankruptcy court.
― ☂ (max), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
Before the case was dismissed, Home falsely stated that he had financial claims worth more than $3 billion against the U.S., according to the criminal complaint.
keep on keepin on, marsh
― ☂ (max), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
this guy is a straussian, haha remember them
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/books/review/book-review-aristotles-nicomachean-ethics.html
a little difft from the shit we chew over itt but, like, every sentence is rong
― the day the world turned dayo, u kno u kno (goole), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
is that what strauss taught? just make a bunch of unsupported and unsupportable statements?
― the day the world turned dayo, u kno u kno (goole), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
also he manages to start this thing by not getting a joke
This one is almost unexcerptable: http://www.hoover.org/publications/defining-ideas/article/84536
A taste:
So that brings us back to corporate jets, which are modest affairs compared to Air Force One. The last thing we want to do is tax corporate executives and make them pay more for their business comfort. If the current tax accounting rules prevent a disguised transfer of income to these executives, they should be retained. If they are too lax, they should be fixed. The object of a good set of tax rules is to get an accurate measure of income, no matter what the state of the economy.The big mistake in this area, therefore, is to assume that further restrictions on corporate jets necessarily result in more revenue for scholarships or food programs, as the president has claimed. The calculations are parallel to those made for the president.Take a chief executive officer who earns ten times as much as the president does per hour. What is gained by stranding him in an airport, having him wait with countless other travelers—whose time is not worth one percent of his time—to catch a plane that might not get him to his final destination?
The big mistake in this area, therefore, is to assume that further restrictions on corporate jets necessarily result in more revenue for scholarships or food programs, as the president has claimed. The calculations are parallel to those made for the president.
Take a chief executive officer who earns ten times as much as the president does per hour. What is gained by stranding him in an airport, having him wait with countless other travelers—whose time is not worth one percent of his time—to catch a plane that might not get him to his final destination?
― Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
The President of the United States is not a fucking corporate CEO, no matter how much people try to spin it that way.
― mh, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
wow that jaffa review is a total mess
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
"review"
Jeez. This prat presumes that unless corporate jets are subsidized, the CEO of Exxon or Disney will naturally be bumped out of his jet and into commercial air travel? If his time is that fraking valuable, he'll let the company pay the small amount of tax involved and save his super-expensive time. More silliness as the silly season approaches.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
im actually sort of mad about the aristotle thing. there is so much to be said about aristotle... and you guys hired someone who actually wanted to write about leo effing strauss??? [said to nytbr editors]
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
I know, right? Apparently these companies are going to go down the tubes if their air travel prices go up.
If his time is that valuable WHY DON'T THEY GET WITH THIS CENTURY AND TELECOMMUTE
― mh, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
f the current tax accounting rules prevent a disguised transfer of income to these executives, they should be retained. If they are too lax, they should be fixed.
you got it, dickhole! http://www.msn101.com/content/emoticons/ThumbsUp_A1VHO4.gif
xp yeah i'm really amazed that stuff like that [review] passes for... anything.
― the day the world turned dayo, u kno u kno (goole), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
Thomas Aquinas, writing in the 13th century, believed that in the “Ethics” Aristotle had said everything needful for happiness in this life. Thus Aquinas did not write his own book on ethics, but instead wrote a commentary on Aristotle. This tradition was extended by the greatest political philosopher of the 20th century, Leo Strauss, who wrote that all his work had no other purpose than to address “the crisis of the West.”But what is the West? And what is its crisis? According to Strauss (and many others), the West is the civilization constituted at its core by the coming together of classical philosophy and biblical revelation. The vitality of Western civilization results from the interplay of these alternative principles, though each contains within itself what claims to be exclusive and irrefutable authority. Symbolic of this authority are Athens and Jerusalem. In “The Second World War,” Churchill remarks that everything valuable in modern life and thought is an inheritance from these ancient cities. The debunking both of Socratic skepticism (“the unexamined life is not worth living”) and of biblical faith (“Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”) has led to the crisis of the West, a chaos of moral relativism and philosophic nihilism in which every lifestyle, no matter how corrupt or degenerate, can be said to be as good as any other.In their brilliant and highly readable “Interpretive Essay” Bartlett and Collins suggest, without positively asserting, that Aristotle offers a solution to the problem, or crisis, of human well-being. But they seem to doubt whether it can meet the challenge of the God of Abraham. But these two principles are not adversarial in all respects. Indeed, much of Strauss’s work is a radical attack — made with the greatest intellectual competence — against the latter-day enemies of both the Bible and a Socratic Aristotle. Strauss maintained that Athens and Jerusalem, while disagreeing on the ultimate good, disagree very little, if at all, on what constitutes a morality both good in itself and the pathway to a higher good.
But what is the West? And what is its crisis? According to Strauss (and many others), the West is the civilization constituted at its core by the coming together of classical philosophy and biblical revelation. The vitality of Western civilization results from the interplay of these alternative principles, though each contains within itself what claims to be exclusive and irrefutable authority. Symbolic of this authority are Athens and Jerusalem. In “The Second World War,” Churchill remarks that everything valuable in modern life and thought is an inheritance from these ancient cities. The debunking both of Socratic skepticism (“the unexamined life is not worth living”) and of biblical faith (“Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”) has led to the crisis of the West, a chaos of moral relativism and philosophic nihilism in which every lifestyle, no matter how corrupt or degenerate, can be said to be as good as any other.
In their brilliant and highly readable “Interpretive Essay” Bartlett and Collins suggest, without positively asserting, that Aristotle offers a solution to the problem, or crisis, of human well-being. But they seem to doubt whether it can meet the challenge of the God of Abraham. But these two principles are not adversarial in all respects. Indeed, much of Strauss’s work is a radical attack — made with the greatest intellectual competence — against the latter-day enemies of both the Bible and a Socratic Aristotle. Strauss maintained that Athens and Jerusalem, while disagreeing on the ultimate good, disagree very little, if at all, on what constitutes a morality both good in itself and the pathway to a higher good.
WHAT ON EARTH DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE NICOMACHEAN ETHICS
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
the whole line of thinking is so cult-like, "we know what we're doing, shut the fuck up". none of what jaffa writes there can reduce to anything else.
― the day the world turned dayo, u kno u kno (goole), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
do goons know who this guy is? "the crack emcee"? he's a bay area guy i guess
anyway, he's some kind of tea partyish type dude now
http://www.themachoresponse.com/crackMC/wordpress/
― goole, Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
both the Bible and a Socratic Aristotle
...a Socratic whosis? wtf is this supposed to mean; nothing denoted by Socratic overlaps with that which is denoted by Aristotelean. But it sounds "intelligent", if you like high-flown nonsense.
― Aimless, Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
is that crack mc who did the last track on consolidated's Play More Music LP? 0_0
― YOUTUBE ...the people over there tell the truth. (stevie), Saturday, 9 July 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/fstIJ.jpg
― ☂ (max), Monday, 11 July 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
Reminds me of http://shakespeareassholes.wordpress.com/
― emil.y, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think that guy knows how circumcision works
― mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
gold mine
― you will know queer obama by his fruits (JoeStork), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
tempted to create a 'queer' username for satan (queer)
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/SMcHJ.jpg
― gr8080, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fp67geuhJM
― Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
I feel so bad for that poor family that woke up on their camping trip without realizing some right wing nutjob had pasted over half their Winnebago with batshit buffoonery. Oh, well. They'll catch it at the next rest stop, for sure.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
There's an oddly misplaced "LOVE NOT HATE" in the middle of that guy's car. Maybe he just needs to proofread more thoroughly.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
Also i hope he does realize there are three 6's on his own license plate.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
(Wh)oregon plates too
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
so the vicious union thugs who assaulted kenneth gladney were acquitted of misdemeanor charges (some good nutty quotes here: http://stlactivisthub.blogspot.com/2011/07/reminder-of-how-tea-party-used-kenneth.html)
dana loesch, editor in chief of big journalism, p sure its a conspiracy:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--VFmymGEgTk/ThzBc1xJxzI/AAAAAAAACQ8/zIiYMqVjXGY/s1600/loeschconspiracy.png
http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2011/07/12/no-justice-gladney-attackers-found-not-guilty/#more-207672
comments on this are a trip
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
conservatives on some weird racial shit given that gladney is black and the seiu guys are white
breitbart thinks it was a hate crime
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
money wins cases, yo
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't seen dude's ER records, but I kind of doubt anyone not in the courtroom has, either. But judging from the verdict, the video, and the ridiculous commentary, I think I'm going to call this myth busted.
(soon to be on discovery channel)
― mh, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link