t-shirts and bumper stickers are more like unfunny jokes that get less and less funny, whereas these kinds of blogs really set themselves up as HOW TO LIVE YOU LIFE 4 REAL
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, you're right.
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
good point you made connecting it to reality shows, too
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
i know someone who went abroad for a couple of years in the early nineties...and when she came back she was shocked and sorta mystified at how everyone seemed to be speaking in this new way, sorta like FRIENDS tv series-speak. can't imagine what it would be like to go away at the dawn of the 2000's and then come back to find people's speech peppered with all of the reality tv-isms
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
love the way "I'm just being real" became code for "FUCK YOU BUDDY I WILL BE AS NOXIOUS AND ENTITLED AS I WANT"
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
There have been women's and teen mags full of terrible advice for a long time.
― Jesse, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
yea for certain, but it's all ~decentralized~ now, all the kids telling other kids how to act horribly
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
#Ok. I just want to let you all know, I got more submissions and more hatemail and to be honest, this blog is meant to amuse and not to hurt anyone. Im glad I have publicity :) If im so hated, why do i have 1,218 followers? Pleasee.. Tell me:) Haters will hate. I will get back to posting new tips soon :) <3 xoxo.
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― goole, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes haters hate because the hated is just so hateable.
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
i like to think if the internet was around in 1940 there wd've been all these butthurt nazis with "Haters Gonna Hate" gifs on their MeinSpaces
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
that feels like another reality TV invention tho, the whole "if you hate anything i say or do the problem is with you and not with me, ever"
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
Starting at about age 10, I was consciously looking for help figuring out gender roles, mine in particular. 13 year old Jesse would have eaten a lot of this shit up. While I accepted feminist ideas, I also was influenced by the trend of bucking the strictures of being "PC," and I wanted desperately to fit in as a guy, so I could imagine myself acting out some of the crap from these sorts of advice sites.
― Jesse, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
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yeah, that combined with the idea that being a dick/instigating drama all the time somehow makes for an endearing personality trait is just bad news
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
It's not reality-TV, it's the self-help/self-esteem boom of the 80s
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
society is in the gutter iirc
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
you're probably right Dan, we shd institute an archeology of douchery in the post-War era
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Just DOn't read this http://www.carnaval.com/initiation/iron_john.jpg
― Latham Green, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
i'm aware of his work, isn't it mostly about beating women with all-natural weapons?
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
I appreciated the girltip about menstrual blood because I have been letting it run down my legs and pool into my socks and never understood why people avoided me for five days each month.
― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.actlikeaman.org/
Men – we face tremendous pressure and stress everyday. Work will never be finished but if there is one thing we need to remember all the time – it is this:DON’T FORGET THE GIRL!In every movie that we see the main guy does his thing, fights the villain, slays the dragon for one good reason – the girl. He has to go and get back to his girl.Spiderman faces his villain who is holding Mary Jane. The villain is about to let go of her but at the same time he needs to save the people who are dying. He does his thing and saves the people while the villain drops Mary Jane. He does it on time but he gets back, swings his web and saves his girl.Husbands – we sometimes feel like Spiderman. We are given a choice everyday – do our job and love our family – both takes time.Do whatever you can to have a great job but not in the expense of having a bad marriage. A great marriage is worth more than our job. So in the course of doing our job – don’t forget the girl.
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
lol Jenny
― horseshoe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
How could I forget the girl? They never shut up.
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.actlikeaman.org/category/homosexuality/
enjoy
― goole, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Churches and the kind of MAN they produce
http://actlikeaman.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/38947_1394124211219_1175589896_30950199_5671855_n.jpg
okay guys, nothing homoerotic to see here, move along
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
A Man’s mind is like a toolbox. A compartment for the nails, a compartment for the hammer, a compartment for every tool. Women are like their handbags. Have you tried getting something in a woman’s bag. It seems like every woman’s handbag has a black hole in it. Everything is mixed up and they like it that way and they have the talent of finding stuff in the bag.
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
that one i feel like i know actual people who secretly believe something along those lines
― horseshoe, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
We are given a choice everyday – do our job and love our family – both takes time.
bzzzzt skrsssh crash
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
We are given a choice everyday – do our job and love our family – both are soul-destroying wastes of time, amirite fellas.
― goole, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
TS: "boobs or butts it doesn't matter" vs "We are given a choice everyday – do our job and love our family – both takes time."
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
we are given a choice everyday -- boobs or butts -- doesn't matter
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ OTM
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
As skewed and fucked up as these are, can one at least make the argument that on some crazy level, there is at least an attempt to, y'know, be nice to ladies and treat them right (vs. being a blatant misogynist and etc)? Even if it is a totally batshit and bad way to do it?
― cheese wiz khalifa (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
I mean tbh some of these are sorta OTM
no. no you can't.
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
boobs or butts -- both takes time
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
I see what you're saying and I sort of agree, but at the same time I can't help thinking
As skewed and fucked up as slavery is, can one at least make the argument that on some crazy level, there is at least an attempt to, y'know, be nice to slaves and treat them right (vs. being a blatant racist and etc)? Even if it is a totally batshit and bad way to do it?
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
"the way to get exactly what you want from women is to intimidate them, be demanding, trick them, whatever""no no, the way to get exactly what you want from women is to be a magical prince who twirls them around"
hmm
― goole, Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
you could in theory, sure, but it would still manage to be insulting and patronizing to everyone imo. at least the "treat 'em like shit in order to get laid" or whatever school is sort of straightforward in it's grossness
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
ha, so what goole said
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
yes but upthread people were scoffing at things like "walk on the side closest to traffic" which is kind of o_O
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
oh ok. i have no problem with that stuff
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's a lot easier to dismiss this kind of crap as mostly harmless or inconsequential if you've never been on the receiving end of advice like this.
I mean, I recently, as in the last six months, heard a judge scold a male attorney for arguing with his female opposing counsel because "She's to pretty to argue with." So these stereotypes exist, and are harmful, and while we can be all "LOL joeks" about them, there is a sincere audience for this and pretty much anything that reinforces this thinking is bad. Even if there are women who like to be picked up and twirled around or some of these things boil down to "don't be a dick."
Like, this kind of thinking isn't constrained to relationships. You get this idea beat into your head hat underneath it all, every woman wants to be treated like a very dumb child and that bleeds out into the workplace and then I, who have worked hard to cultivate relationships with people who see me as an individual with valuable opinions, get ignored at work because whatever I'm saying, I really just want a man to step in and relieve me of the burden of thinking so much.
tl;dr: this is not theoretical and the real life results of this shit is damaging.
― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
i think part of my problem with the blogxamples upthread is the italic font makes them much more glurgey and self-important than need be
― dell (del), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
nah i think most of us on this thread totally agree with that Jenny. the only humour is in how egregious and o_O this shit is.
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
oh god yeah del i was gonna say before the fonts on all of these drip with evil
I agree with that, Jenny; in fact, IMO the real definition of being a gentleman is "treat a woman the way she wants to be treated".
However, there are certain things I do which I will maintain until the day I die which are wholly innocuous such as holding doors open for people (not just women) which I do because I was taught it was the polite thing to do; encountering a thread where that type of behavior is lumped in with "pat her on the head and treat her like a child and maybe she'll fuck you" dismissals basically just makes me think most of my peer group is fucking rude. I guess if you want me to let a door close on you so you can prove that you can open it, knock yourself out (not on the door) but my default reaction is going to always be "I am going to take 3 seconds to hold this door for the next person" and there isn't anything nefarious behind it.
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
strangely, when my grandmother instructed me in this piece of etiquette she explained the reasoning for it like so: when people used to empty chamber pots out of second story windows, the person closest to the street was the one more likely to be rained on with excreta :(
― burberry kush (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
the physics of that explanation elude me tbh
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link