Yes. The French feel emboldened by Libya maybe, but this is a different situation.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
I am pleased that the Egyptians have released that Israeli American guy who was being held on farcical charges of espionage. Apparently some of the evidence against him was that he tipped heavily and spoke in a quiet voice to his girlfriend.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 27 October 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
he was also seen consulting a Hebrew-Arabic dictionary in public, though I'm not sure that was taken as evidence that he was a spy or not.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/arabian-sights-festival-sees-more-egyptian-arab-spring-films/2011/10/27/gIQA9yq2MM_story.html?wprss=rss_local
For those in the W. DC area (and maybe the films are showing elsewhere too)
― curmudgeon, Friday, 28 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
I did not make it to any of the Arabians sights movies over the weekend and some of the upcoming showings are all sold out.
Meanwhile
With an eye on the threat of a belligerent Iran, the administration is also seeking to expand military ties with the six nations in the Gulf Cooperation Council — Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Oman.
Great. The US wants to associate with the the Gulf Cooperation Council, best known for going into Bahrain and crushing the protests there.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link
x-post-- the French may feel the Syrian government is going to collapse but this Washington Post article tells an opposite story(although the reporter was on a supervised and watched visit)-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/syrias-government-is-confident-but-the-country-is-polarized/2011/10/28/gIQAxgdbQM_story.html
But during a rare, authorized visit to Syria by a Western journalist, conducted under close government supervision, it became clear that not only do Assad and his allies appear to be in no imminent danger of falling but that they also feel no pressure to offer concessions to those who have been taking to the streets for months to call for radical change.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
Syria agrees to Arab League peace plan (but...)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/arab-league-announces-peace-plan-for-syria/2011/11/02/gIQAKBm6fM_story.html?hpid=z3
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
Emergency Arab League meeting tomorrow about Syria's non-compliance with the agreement and, presumably, the increasing slaughter.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 November 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'm just shocked that Syria did not abide by the plan!!! While some say its obvious Syria should be kicked out of the Arab League, this BBC writer thinks the League will somehow retain power over Syria if it keeps Syria. Elsewhere I read that folks want the League to have Syrian dissidents (from outside the country) represent Syria and not the Syrian government
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15703311
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 12 November 2011 04:04 (twelve years ago) link
Arab League talking tough re Syria now--will it help or make a difference?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 14 November 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
As usual everything is messy--Egyptian military trying to preserve their power; Yemen still waiting for Prez to leave while the poor get stuck in the middle of the government, extremists and incoming drones; and Syria possibly heading into civil war. The Bahrain situation is no better than it was either.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 November 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/world/middleeast/aliaa-magda-elmahdy-egypts-nude-blogger-stirs-partisan-waters.html
― I gave your mom morgellons (buzza), Friday, 18 November 2011 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
nude blogger stirs
uh oh
― curmudgeon, Friday, 18 November 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
Heavy clashes were reported as troops and tanks were sent to vanquish rebels, and Russia indicated it would oppose any effort to have President Bashar al-Assad step down.
NY Times
Meanwhile, someone said on the Democracy Now radio show that Assad's military has 300,000 active troops with tanks etc., while the rebels have at the most 30,000 to 40,000 spread throughout the country
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 January 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/world/europe/soldier-says-atrocities-made-him-a-syrian-defector.html?_r=2&hpw
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/brutality-in-syria-by-davidoatkins.html
The tradition of pacifism and anti-imperialism on the Left would indicate that Syrian problems are Syrian, and that nothing should be done beyond sending sternly worded letters and maybe a few targeted sanctions. The tradition of intervention on behalf of the weak and defenseless on the Left would indicate that the world has a moral obligation something to step in.
But what would stepping in look like? Would it do more harm than good? What would be the blowback? It's hard to say here that Assad is a dictator backed by the West, as has so often been the case elsewhere. In this case, it's the Russians who have strategic resource interests in Syria and have been trying to keep Assad in power. But obviously, having America act as the world's policeman hasn't worked out so well for the last 50 years or so.
These are not easy questions; no one should pretend that they are, or that anyone has all the answers. But it's hard to obsess over minor issues in the tax code or reproductive access domestically, while shrugging in helpless resignation over what's happening in Syria right now.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.juancole.com/2012/01/egyptian-crowds-in-tahrir-insist-the-revolution-will-continue.html
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
news of urban shelling in Syria:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16883911
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
It's crystal clear that Assad doesn't give a shit. He's murdering his own people as a "fuck you" to the world. Sickening.
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
finally on the NYT homepage. Deaths reportedly up to 260.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
And Russia and China do not care. Thanks a lot. So the US is gonna try the below, while I heard on the radio that Sarkozy is gonna try to talk to Putin.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-pulls-diplomats-out-of-syria-as-violence-intensifies/2012/02/06/gIQAN1CxtQ_story.html?hpid=z1
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
sheesh have the Russians and Chinese ever met a brutal dictatorial regime they didn't like
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
It's not all that different than the black 'copters crowd in the US; they feel that allowing ingerence by the UN lessens national sovereignty and that it's not up to the UN to effect regime change in countries that aren't a security threat to their neighbors.
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
You're from where, sorry?
― Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russian-foreign-minister-visits-syria-as-shelling-continues/2012/02/07/gIQAx438vQ_story.html?hpid=z3
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
the US has supported plenty of execrable regimes and unjustly meddled in the affairs of other countries but China and Russia are like next level when it comes to looking the other way/propping up monsters
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
US pays lip service to human rights, Russia and China don't even bother
There must be a LDR joke in there...
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
When there's $billions in trade and investments at stake, I think it's called "the customer is always right".
― Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
i think it's more like "you have your hemisphere, fuck off"
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
"you have your hemisphere, fuck off"
uh South America yo
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
right that's what i mean
anyway, interesting claim from a leftist/goldbug type site:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/independent-report-shows-that-syrian-government-violence-has-been-exaggerated.html
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
"Leftist"
That blogpost doesn't address this complaint that has been circulating for awhile:
“It is perplexing that the Arab League chose the Khartoum regime's General al-Dabi to lead its team monitoring the Syria regime because of his record of turning a blind eye to human rights crimes, or worse”, said Omer Ismail, Sudan analyst for the Enough Project. Ismail also accused Dabi of having stood witness to similar crimes in Sudan, saying, “Instead of heading a team entrusted with a probe of alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity by Syria, the general should be investigated by the ICC for evidence of similar crimes in Sudan." Dabi, 63, is a veteran of Sudan’s military. Over the course of his lengthy career, he rose steadily through the ranks, eventually becoming President Omar al-Bashir’s head of intelligence.
http://www.france24.com/en/20111226-syria-arab-league-observers-mission-chief-sudanese-general-al-dabi-uncertain-past
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
yes, leftist
i'm not endorsing that claim, btw
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
I realize you're not endorsing it...It just does not read as that leftist to me, more libertarian or just contrarian-- with a blogroll including Drudge and Greenwald.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
As I am notorious for on ilx, I'm not up for US military intervention in Syria. I am all in favor of the widest possible dissemination of the facts about Syrian government oppression, all for for international sanctions, and if the Arab League can get behind any further actions against Syria, I'm all for supporting that. If the USA can infiltrate money and expert advice to the Syrian insurgents, I'd consider that excellent, too.
But the Syrians must bear the lion's share of danger and death, if only because that will be necessary to the legitimacy of any successor regime.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I'm confused as to which half of the sphere the US has.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think anyone's up for military intervention in Syria, Aimless
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
i'm saying that the russian and chinese attitude toward the US is [what i said up there]
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
I'm just being a dick about the definition of hemisphere I guess
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
The USA only lays claim to the Northern and Western hemispheres. Australia is up for grabs.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure we have a 'special relationship' w/Australia to rival that w/Britain
― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
But, if someone gave Australia a dozen long-stemmed red roses, we wouldn't be all chest-beating mad about it, I'm guessing. We'd let it play out.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
and then drop a daisy-cutter on their ungrateful asses
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
I think if Christopher Hitchens was still alive he might advocate for military intervention in Syria
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
As reports of assaults by Syrian forces continued for a fifth day, Russia’s leaders attempted to fend off criticism that they were doing nothing effective to stop the bloodshed.
From the NY Times. Good luck with that approach Russia
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
And in Egypt:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57373166/woman-behind-egypts-ngo-pursuit-a-mubarak-holdover/
Washington Post) CAIRO -- The architect of Egypt's crackdown on U.S.-funded pro-democracy organizations is a holdover from the cabinet of former president Hosni Mubarak who has tried for years to stymie the groups' activities.
Faiza Abou el-Naga, the minister who coordinates international aid and long the most powerful woman in the Egyptian government, has survived a series of cabinet purges and weathered the groundswell of anger toward remnants of Mubarak's regime. But her intensifying campaign against the civil society groups offers clear proof, her critics say, that some elements of the old guard remain entrenched and are trying to block the rise of new political leadership in the country.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Some neo-cons calling for the US to go into Iran and Syria. And I am sure they have not considered the consequences. Why not North Korea too. The Syria situation is depressing. Life in Iran is not so swell either.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
Some neo-cons calling for the US to go into Iran and Syria. And I am sure they have not considered the consequences.
i have a hard time telling if you are being droll or not
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link