rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.

I'll go first:

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Why's he talking about white girls?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

I know, right?!?

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

L.A. also means "Lower Arkansas" or this place:

Locations I'd expect to find in the "Plantation Places" Jeopardy category much faster than I would expect Los Alamitios.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Although if you had followed my link you would have seen it was California (hee hee). I didn't want to call out Riverside county because it gets tarred with the "white trash" moniker too much. For locals, this is off the 10 between Redlands and Beaumont.

nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, I don't think I've ever seen anything called "plantation" out here, ever. It was a minor WTF moment for me.

nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

I did follow the link but only looked at the images

mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

makes u think

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

i mean, it doesn't seem exactly racist to point out that, in America, latinos aren't always offered especially fair employment opportunities, and they're often hired to do less glamorous jobs for people like Donald Trump?

dick wet with chickenshit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

people are treating this like Kelly Osbourne said that the only things Latinos can do are clean her toilets and buy her records

dick wet with chickenshit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

"i get what she meant" etc etc but c'mon, it's an insensitive and foolish thing to say when you're debating the issues on television
"in America, latinos aren't always offered especially fair employment opportunities, and they're often hired to do less glamorous jobs for people like Donald Trump" is obvs different from "but who will clean your toilets"

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

uh immigrants from countries not full of rapists, obviously, duh

Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

I could be... Trump

Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:13 (9 months ago) Permalink

I was planning on giving the toilet cleaning job at my estate to the person who flosses my teeth.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 9 November 2015 22:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

this didn't have to go here but

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 9 November 2015 22:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Had to look a few times at the last few letters of that link

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Monday, 23 November 2015 23:34 (6 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://sfist.com/2015/12/17/stanley_roberts_again_calls_out_asi.php

nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

the selling the food angle is pretty shitty

dunno why their ethnicity needs to be mentioned at all tho

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:30 (5 months ago) Permalink

someone from Glide posted in the comments:

I'm a Glide member and have participated at the grocery bag giveaway...

This is something we're aware happens and, essentially, we turn the other eye intentionally because...

1) We ensure that everyone that comes on time (and many that come late) get groceries
2) This happens but its small number of people, relative to the thousands that are helped
3) Many elderly Asian households in SF are well below the poverty line and depend on food and financial assistance
4) The line takes a significant amount of time to get through; if they are desperate enough to wind through it multiple times for the small amount of money they will make selling them piecemeal on the street. Well, we've provided help to them too

In the end, its a small thing that we don't really see as an issue at all. No we are not going to stamp peoples hands and shame those that come back. Its a pitty that for many here, the faint whiff of injustice (and really, beating on the poor for doing what they can to get by?) creates this animosity towards the poor in general.

For fucks sake, we helped 6,000 to have a chance to have a holiday meal. Focusing on that.

nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:32 (5 months ago) Permalink

the headline is specifically about "Asian" sellers, the article mentions that "most" are Asian...gross imo

nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:33 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah that's p fucked up

if Glide's okay w it then I don't care, really. I've volunteered there before, they are a great institution.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:35 (5 months ago) Permalink

massive respect for the Glide member in the comments.

Are you fondeling the computer. (stevie), Friday, 18 December 2015 09:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

That entire story is disgusting.

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 14:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

(To be clear, I am not talking about the people selling food.)

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 14:05 (5 months ago) Permalink

Ugggh the racist posts in that thread are basically how my school's entire community talks about Asian immigrants. Somehow the Russians, Ukranians, etc etc white Christian immigrants aren't "lowering property values" but Chinese-Americans are. It's a really toxic stew around here.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:38 (5 months ago) Permalink

A large department store-type property remains vacant for many years, until finally the Salvation Army rents it out. Now no businesses will occupy any of the other storefronts on that block or across from it because no one wants to be associated with people who shop at the Salvation Army (apparently not just suburban highschoolers and theater majors) or have them as customers. Churches with food pantries help only to their own congregation or those known to their congregations--they don't put signs up in public or seek to serve the general public. I walk into the school office and three people who work with children every day are complaining about Chinese immigrants, right in front of me, like it's perfectly normal. Eventually I'm going to need a way to wash my brain besides soaking it in wine.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:48 (5 months ago) Permalink

Have you considered making up business cards that say "shut the fuck up" and handing them out to these people?

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

I have to work with these people.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

Working here is like being a spy behind enemy lines basically. One wrong word and I'm kaput (or at least will have several months' worth of relationship repair work to do, as has already happened).

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:19 (5 months ago) Permalink

Have you considered drafting an anonymous friend to shadow these people and hand them "shut the fuck up" business cards?

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:33 (5 months ago) Permalink

I am interested and would like to subscribe to this newsletter.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

Gotta be some way to leverage that in the gig economy.

how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:08 (5 months ago) Permalink

Shut The Fuck App

how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

omg let's workshop this

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 17:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

"shaming these ladies, who are mostly of Asian descent," -- ah the classic "racial ascription subclause," now a unique grammatical feature of the english language.

(can't find the ", who is black" thread for some reason)

big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 06:22 (5 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Is this anti-semitism?

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 17:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Rolling 2016 Thread on Race

ps: yes, it is IMO racist

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

you could write a pretty crazy book about all of the legal and commercial things that have gone on with the marley estate

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

Boris Johnson, a cunt

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

ah yes, the inheritable distaste for the UK

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 19:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

Johnson, Goldsmith and Cameron all going racist in the run up to the mayoral elections and EU referendum

just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

going

punnerist spoon here (onimo), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

Sir Lynton Keith Crosby, AO (born 23 August 1956)[1][2] is an Australian political strategist who has managed election campaigns for right-of-centre parties in several countries.[3] Crosby has been described as a "master of the dark political arts", "the Wizard of Oz", and "the Australian Karl Rove". In 2002, he was called "one of the most powerful and influential figures in the nation" by The Age.

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

well, yes, of course (xp)

just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Saturday, 23 April 2016 10:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 16:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

priceless reaction

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 17:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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