previous tenants, electricity bills

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previous tenants are friends of friends

apparently they have not received an electricity bill from EDF for 4 years, despite signing up with them

we'd like to not put them in the shit, but obviously can't just let it ride and get the same "free electricity" deal as them. we need to sign up with a company.

my question is: would switching to a different provider decrease their chance of getting caught? what ARE the providers in london, and are any significantly better/worse then others?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

WOTS ALL DIS THEN?!

ripecock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey, did you move? So out of the loop and should email.

Whoever you sign up with it will initiate a closeout procedure which may or may not bill the previous tenants. If you don't sign up you could end up with their liabilities.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

You will get letter from a collection agency at some point as soon as you register at that address most likely, when they have a name to go on for that address and it will be your name.

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

The irresponsibility on their part is so O_O.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i know.. it's a little... cray-zeh. they ARE going to be on the hook for those bills sooner or later. when the electricity company realizes they're not going to be all "oh whatever!"

so signing up with some weird other electricity company won't make a difference do you guys think, as far as landing previous tenants immediately in the shit?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

In the US at least, you can't be on the hook for bills that pre-date your lease! If you moved in like as a favor or a sublet and there's no new lease, then you'd need a notarized letter from your landlord stating your move-in date in order to put the elec company off the trail.

Also see if there's a limitation on how far back the utilities can back-bill if they missed it before.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's possible the meter's been listed under another property (neighbours? unlikely if you've got the whole house but still) and someone else was paying it the whole time. we paid the wrong meter for years thanks to EDF's mistake (and me not submitting readings but i just wasn't in the habit of doing this - am now). we eventually got the appropriate refund but never found out whether the people whose meter it actually was were paying anything at all (and the bills were stupidly huge, which is the only reason i noticed at all).

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

how in the hell you skate for 4 years w/o the company turning you off.

man.

goole, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

electricity companies are rubbish. I tried for 18 months to actually get a bill out of mine before they finally sent one, they graciously let me pay off that 18 months of charges over the next 6, fuckers.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

I lived in a loft that was rated for commercial electricity or something, and the company took YEARS to twig that it was being lived in. But since they had been delinquent in installing the proper kind of meter, it wasn't back-chargeable.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

no we have a proper lease, just want to see if I can shield these guys somehow

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

not your problem iirc

goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooole (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

You will get letter from a collection agency at some point as soon as you register at that address most likely, when they have a name to go on for that address and it will be your name.

This is pretty much what's happened to loads of my friends because of previous fuck-ups, either by the energy company or the prev tenants. It's not pleasant to sort out. Afaicr it didn't seem to make a difference whether it was a new company or not.

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Really, you should just go for the free electricity.

But don't worry about your chums: utility bills from places where you used to live are a joke. They are the first bills you sneeze on. The money they discuss is imaginary, and the consequences mere dreams.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 22:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'd just make sure your bills are sorted "properly" - meters read etc - without worrying too much about your friends of friends. You'll be bombarded with mail from debt collection agencies which you can bin or return to sender. It might be in the previous tenants interests to pay up - unpaid debts are likely to catch up with them at some point (usually applying for loans/mortgages), particularly if the utility bills are in one person's name (but should be paid between all the previous residents). And it's probably worth being aware that bad debts at an address can impact on the following tenants.

djh, Thursday, 24 June 2010 10:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

bad debts at an address can impact on the following tenants

Yikes - is this true?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'd be in strong favour of a 'cy own a' strategy, just in case.

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

My experience of this was for a few months after previous tenants absconded without paying rent or bills we got several letters from debt collection agencies addressed to them, which we threw away, and nothing happened. So I don't know how much it does impact on the following tenants - we were worried about bailiffs turning up at the door but that didn't happen. The police did once, but once they determined I was not the person they were looking for, they were on their way.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm less worried about bailiffs - I can just show them a copy of my lease - than some kind of unfair bad credit shenanigans.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

'return to sender' or 'previous tenant moved away' notes to the company in question is prob your best option to avoid that

Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have heard that an address can have bad credit - it hasn't been an issue for me but I already had mobile phone/broadband/Sky contracts from my previous address that I just moved over, which might be a different situation to being a new customer. I guess I'll find out if we end up changing our broadband.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

In Aus I'm pretty sure there's a law that if the company hasnt got its shit together and billed you, all debts after 6 months have to be waived. Its happened to me before once. 18 months of back charges from no invoices, and I only ended up paying 6. Suited me!

Dont know how that applies in the UK tho.

C.R.E.P.E (Trayce), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I really despise bailiff companies - a number of letters have turned up for a previous tenant about every six months, from the same damned firm of bailiffs, and it's like they rounded up all the Londoners suffering from adult aftereffects of foetal alcohol syndrome and employed them in this one office. Me: no, the person no longer lives there and funnily enough, I do not have time to photocopy my bills to send to you to prove my own residence, but if you send a bailiff to my home when I have told you your debtor is not here and referred you to my landord's office to verify, I will rip his nuts off.

WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Addresses can have bad credit, but you can absolve yourself of blame with credit agencies by telling them you aren't the person at the address who racked up all the debt.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

any tips on "good" lecky companies in london? starting fresh, might as well see what's out there

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

though as you can see, actually doing the research myself is a bridge too far

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 23:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

I once moved out of a place, and asked for the final bill (telephone, in this case). Received one for the flat above, notified them of their mistake, and... nothing.

Eventually I received a letter from debt collectors and they'd put me down on a credit blacklist, and I couldn't sign up for a bunch of stuff (which was no big deal). I contacted them and paid the bill, but they didn't remove the black mark. I think it's gone now, after five or seven years.

A Picture Where Dorian's Gay (S-), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Im always paranoid of that happening and just being completely unaware of it.

C.R.E.P.E (Trayce), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

any tips on "good" lecky companies in london? starting fresh, might as well see what's out there

I don't know which ones are 'good', but my experience with switching from EDF was frustrating. They kept re-taking over the electricity supply, so every few months we'd randomly get bills from EDF, have to cancel the account again, and re-sign up with our other supplier. After about 8 months and many phone calls they stopped.

salsa shark, Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ecotricity, despite not billing me for a year were quite painless once they sorted that out.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm happy with ecotricity.

postcards from the (ledge), Saturday, 26 June 2010 11:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

weird about EDF not "letting go". they seem dodgy in general what with all the nukes. i'd rather not use them. will check out the propagandishly-named ecotricity.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

looks like Ecotricity get 18% of their power from nukes but that's still pretty good vs EDF's 90% (!!)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fucking hell, not even the Hulk got 90% of his power from nukes

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

EDF = French = Lots of Nuke plants in France

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

OK, that's it. How do I switch? I want off evil EDF since they've started spamming me. Grrr.

OCD Soundsystem (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:18 (3 years ago) Permalink


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