Luck: HBO series: David Milch, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Mann

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Dustin Hoffman has agreed to do television, signing on to star in David Milch's new HBO project "Luck," according to Variety.

HBO last year ordered a pilot for the drama, which revolves around the world of horse racing and betting. The combination of Milch and now Hoffman -- plus previously announced director/executive producer Michael Mann -- would seem to make "Luck" all but a lock for an eventual series greenlight.

Dennis Farina and John Ortiz are also part of "Luck," which will begin filming this month, Variety said.

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

will watch

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

super-psyched

the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

super-psyched seconded

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

man, I've heard so much crazy shit about milch, hope to god this actually coalesces into something watchable.
love dude so much tho

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

As long as the horses don't levitate.

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

srsly is there a milch biog out there? or even a good, long mag piece?

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

When was the last time that Hoffman did anything worthwhile?

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

He was great in American Buffalo, and this sounds like potentially similar lowlife territory.

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Didnt Milch use his genius grant money to buy a race horse? Should be good..

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'll stan for him in I Heart Huckabees and his appearance in Stranger Than Fiction was easily one of the better points of that movie.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

huckabees

Hideous Lamp (cozen), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

amped for this

goole, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah I am excited

dmr, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Milch has owned or part-owned two really good horses that ran in the Breeders' Cup. Val Royal and Gilded Time

there's a pretty good Q&A with him behind the paid subscription wall at my place of employment (D41LY R4CING F0RM), would c+p but I don't wanna get busted

http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=110717

dmr, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Didnt Milch use his genius grant money to buy a race horse?

Humanitas award, iirc. Don't think he ever got a macarthur grant. He tells this (very hilarious) story in an interview in some book I have somewhere.

Clay, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

this could be good.

btw walter hill directed by the pilot of deadwood, which had some extraordinary moments. where did that guy's career go, though?

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

i got abt half way thru that nyer profile before realizing id read it before. milch is kinda a frustrating guy in a lotta respects imo. idk, i recently queued up hill street blues, which ive never seen, so we'll see.

wait, dmr works 4 the drf ? who's gonna win this rachel alexander v zenyatta race

johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 March 2010 04:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

"btw walter hill directed by the pilot of deadwood. . . where did that guy's career go, though?"

Supernova and then Undisputed.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 March 2010 04:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah I'm their Internet editor

Rachel has a license to improve from age 3 to 4 so if she is better than last year I don't see her losing

dmr, Thursday, 4 March 2010 04:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

anyway yeah I hope this will be good. one of my friends is down on Hoffman being in it but I dunno, seems like it will be a good place for him to reconnect w/ his Ratso Rizzo midnight cowboy dirtbag roots

dmr, Thursday, 4 March 2010 04:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hoffman is good in whatever he's in, he just picks a lot of bad stuff to be in.

richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

horse article mentioned upthread:

Q&A: David Milch

Emmy Award-winning television writer and producer of shows such as "Deadwood" and "NYPD Blue" is about to begin production of a new HBO show, "Luck," set at a racetrack

Birthdate: March 23, 1945, in Buffalo, N.Y.

Family: wife, Rita Stern; daughters Elizabeth and Libby; son Ben.

Got into racing because . . .: "My Dad was involved in it. He was a surgeon. He used to take us to Saratoga in August, which is good because that's when the racing was."

Why do you like it so much? "It's an extremely complicated and sometimes obscure business to try to understand. That's how I try to make my living. It is a venue of both fascination and dread. That's usually where people spend most of their lives."

Describe the synopsis of "Luck": "It's kind of a top-to-bottom, kaleidoscopic view of life at the track. Gamblers, trainers, owners, administration. In the same way that 'Deadwood' followed multiple storylines, that's what we'll be doing. I do believe a racetrack is a community, like 'Deadwood' was."

What is the timetable for when the show airs? "We hope to go on the air in January of next year. We are going to start shooting in March. We'll shoot and then probably stop, fine tune, then go back. We'll be shooting at Santa Anita and then probably in Santa Clarita at the Autry Ranch, where we shot 'Deadwood.' Right now we're doing all the casting and BS. It's safer for me to write."

Why did you decide to do a show set at the track? "I started writing this show in 1973, something like that. As I said, it's a venue of fascination and dread. It's something that compels your interest and gives you access to your imagination. If you're going to sustain a series, you need all of those components. The racetrack has always been that for me. It's a setting for drama of all different kinds. The fundamental appeals are prehistorical. It has to do with man's ostensible mastery of his environment and subordination to the outcome. Man likes to think he is the master, but in fact when they are 40 yards from the finish, you realize it hasn't got much to do with you now."

Will we see any familiar racing faces having cameos, or more, in "Luck"? "Absolutely. It's my hope and intention, and we're pretty well along toward realizing it, that a whole bunch of jockeys will have main roles in it."

Al Swearengen in "Deadwood" was the greatest TV character ever. Do you have a similarly diabolical character in "Luck"? "I don't think Swearengen was diabolical, except for two-thirds the time. I think this show can be really good for the game. It's warts and all, but it's still a beautiful, beautiful sport, and I think its warts only add ultimately to the complexity of its beauty. I don't know how many more times I'll get to the plate. This is the one I've been wanting to do my whole life."

Play casting agent. Who would play your trainer, Julio Canani, in the "Julio Canani Story"? "We've cast the part of Escalante, a trainer who is roughly based on Julio, except he tells the truth a little more. But who doesn't? He's going to be played by a wonderful actor named John Ortiz, a theater actor from New York who has a theater company in New York with Philip Seymour Hoffman."

How often do you attend the races? "It depends on who I'm lying to. I have several different masks that I wear."

Best gambling story ever: "The day my horse Disturbingthepeace won the [2002] Bing Crosby at Del Mar, I had him singled at 16-1 in the pick six. That was OK. I almost broke even that day. I had the pick six, and with all the consolations it paid like a quarter of a million dollars."

Best horse owned: "Gilded Time. Val Royal was a lovely horse. Tuzla was a great filly. I loved Marvin's Policy because he was such a trier. Echo Eddie, he broke his maiden in a maiden claimer up north, won a million dollars, and got beat a nose in the Golden Shaheen in Dubai. I've been lucky to be associated with a whole bunch of good ones."

Biggest win as an owner: "Val Royal [2001 Mile] and Gilded Time [1992 Juvenile] in Breeders' Cup races. I guess Gilded Time because he was not bred to go two turns. He didn't really want to do it. It's not because he won a Breeders' Cup race, but because what I got to see was the deepest and most important aspect of horse's gift - his indomitability, bravery, resolution."

Best horse seen: "I guess Dr. Fager breaking the world record at Arlington. That was a pretty serious performance."

Why were you in Chicago? "I was just being a degenerate. I was knocking around at that time. I was involved in a pharmaceutical delivery service."

Favorite TV show other than one you've worked on: "'Naked City.'"

Hobbies: "Ineffectual excuses."

Childhood hero: "Luke Easter, a baseball player for the Cleveland Indians who played in the minor leagues for the Buffalo Bisons. He was at end of his career then. There was a kid coming up, and Luke used to say, 'With your legs and my brains, I'd still be in the major leagues.'"

Childhood dream: "To live past childhood."

People most admired: "The presidents of all the investment banks, because they're the best crooks I know about."

Future racing-related ambitions: "To see the realization of 'Luck.'"

(Head) (Lamp), Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

"I don't think Swearengen was diabolical, except for two-thirds the time." Good answer.

Jouster, Thursday, 4 March 2010 08:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

i have really been liking dustin hoffman lately. if anyone hasn't seen STRAIGHT TIME, do so now.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2010 09:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^ funnily enough, michael mann helped write it

the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Thursday, 4 March 2010 09:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

I read a copy of the pilot not that long ago. Funny crazy-wisdom stuff about "the degenerates" -- compulsive gamblers (one on a Rascal scooter) made me laugh out loud, but a little bit of the JFC poetic-jargony-quirkiness made it a difficult read. Also, the racetrack lingo seemed to lack both the hard-bittenness of Milch's cop shows, and the zonked-out beach mysticism of JFC and, honestly, felt a little bit like latter-day-Mamet. That said, I will definitely watch this.

Remington Q. (remy bean), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Great to hear about the script, remy.

Maybe Nolte too.

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/nick-nolte-mug-shot.jpg
"Green Flash is a lock in the 7th, his mudder was a mudder"

dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha shit.

dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

i look forward to this series ending unresolved after one season, leaving everyone frustrated and angry.

akm, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

apparently d-hoff is super-famous for being a hard-on about script-approval so im kind of amazed he's agreed to do serial television

the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

commenters from blog that posted the Nolte news

Amazing Grouping. Will be interesting to see
how quickly it implodes after Milch and Mann
start the wrestling match for control.
Both are micro managers and used to their
own way on projects!
Can’t wait for the fireworks.
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Good luck getting episode 3 in the can with this group !!! Could be one of those projects that looks great on paper, which it does, but is impossible to produce because of the personalities involved. Hoffman, Nolte & Mann stories are legendary. WIll be interested to see how they work together on a television schedule, even if it is an HBO television schedule (12-14 days per episode).
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dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how accurately they will portray some of the degenerate horse racing gambler types. The ones I see at the track who bring their entire family while they sit there and bet on every single race.

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

what's wrong with a guy bringing his family to the track. are they bored? is he betting the rent money? kinda painting with a broad brush there.

dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^^^ capn. save-a-gambler

dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

I bet on every race when I go to the track. That's kind of the point, innit?

Jockey underworld will be more interesting than stock degenerate gamblers. Dudes puking and popping laxatives to stay light.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah milch and mann are super-notorious control freaks.

watch the bonus features on the deadwood box set. the poor credited directors have to kind of sit back and smile warily at the camera while milch jumps in and gives the actors direction.

that said, i got the feeling that the deadwood features were all about elevating milch to some kind of television godhead, so it may be that they choose to include the footage that made it look as though he was the central or even sole creative force. which is belied by the fact that some episodes of that show were pallid, while others (notably the pilot directed by walter hill) were really great.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

i should add: pallid and great in a way that suggested the hands of a director at work.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

who's gonna win this rachel alexander v zenyatta race

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:02 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

Rachel has a license to improve from age 3 to 4 so if she is better than last year I don't see her losing

― dmr, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:37 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

haha well .... Rachel just lost to a horse not even as good as Zenyatta in what was supposed to be Rachel's easy comeback race so don't listen to me, obv.

Rachel vs. Zen probably won't happen now, at least not on April 9. (Zenyatta won again today and looked good)

sorry to hijack Milch thread with real life horse racing news, back to our regularly scheduled programming ...

dmr, Sunday, 14 March 2010 00:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

David Milch reading with Q&A:

http://media.sas.upenn.edu/writershouse/10A/Milch-David_Fellows-Reading_KWH-UPenn_04-26-2010.mp3

caek, Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

full season done been ordered

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

watch the bonus features on the deadwood box set. the poor credited directors have to kind of sit back and smile warily at the camera while milch jumps in and gives the actors direction.

ehh tv directors know what the score is

coldfrap - foam mountain (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

like to see him give directions on michael mann's set

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

when does the pilot/full season air?

caek, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

love the scenes of milch on pillows, dictating the script in front of an audience on those bonus features. all that's missing is a grape-feeder.

da croupier, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

next year

like, the 'boardwalk empire' pilot was done about this time last year. kind of chill that hbo film a whole season before airing it -- i guess you can keep the whole thing more consistent than on deadline-chasing network tv?

wonder when the bigelow series is coming. hbo must have deep pockets.

xpost

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

john from Cincinnati kinda soured me

i'm gonna need a +1 so me & a friend can kick you in the balls (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 July 2010 05:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

insider is actually one of the earlier examples of the teal-and-orange trend. watch it again. it's 75% blue.

i think mann's lost it. public enemies was just so uninspired and sloppy. miami vice was extraordinarily visually beautiful much of the time, but i didn't buy the drama for a second. but i still think it's his best film since heat, maybe.

i could live without any mann films existing except for heat. i don't think there's much in the other films that he doesn't do better in that one.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont wanna live without manhunter. or the insider. or miami vice. even public enemies had some great ideas, if it was a bit... misbegotten.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

manhunter is for the true heads

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

what did you like about public enemas, slocki?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have a lot of love for Public Enemies.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Napoleon once lost 200,000 horses. Hoffman should be allowed 3.

Cunga, Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah even mann will tell you public enemies was a failure - kind of an ali-esque failure in my eyes

ive said this before but i think all he does now are 'interesting failures' - and i adjusted my outlook a while back so thats all i expect from him. and i still find some value in that, maybe im being a bit of an apologist but hey.

i'll always rep for mohicans. thats just a really sick movie with some interesting shit happening in the margins

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

some really embarrassing moments in it that you just have to look past

one really embarrassing moment in heat = when diane venora intones the words "you sift through the detritus"

actually that whole scene is bleh

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

dead tech post-modernistic bullshit house

some really embarrassing moments in it that you just have to look past

in mohicans?

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

IIRC yes. last time i watched it all was probably 5 years ago. remember some really torrid scenes with unvarnished acting, also some awkward battle scenes.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

ddl gives a spectacular physical performance but some of his line readings are kinda deadly. its always been hard for me to tell if that's just the role, though. i think those qualities mostly work in the movies favor just because its trying to be an unironic, stirring period epic - stuff like the 'i will find you' scene really works, and i think the material is one of the best possible matches for mann's humor-free sensibility. and i think he does a better job of communicating his themes in it than in a lot of his other pictures, and of getting us into his characters' heads.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I once saw the silent version of Last of the Mohicans and thought it was pretty cool that Mann copied almost exactly a bunch of shots from it.

ryan, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Even Public Enemies, which is a clear example of Mann falling short of potential, has one of my favorite shots of all time, this running board cam of one of Depp's buddies dying as they escape from the prison. You just see him hanging on for dear life even as the life fades from his eyes, and they he drops off and disappears. Mann's also been really into this intimate, over the shoulder POV since he went digital and cameras got smaller.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's been into that since Heat - he uses those shots really well to put you 'in the moment' & i think hes better at that than any director around

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyone else notice that nearly every one of his films has been released in a director's cut or tweak of some sort save Thief and Insider? Alternate versions of Manhunter, Mohicans, Miami Vice, Ali and even Heat exist. Only Ali may be better than the original, though.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost, Yeah, the over the shoulder stuff during the street shoot out in Heat is pretty incredible.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Even Public Enemies, which is a clear example of Mann falling short of potential, has one of my favorite shots of all time, this running board cam of one of Depp's buddies dying as they escape from the prison. You just see him hanging on for dear life even as the life fades from his eyes, and they he drops off and disappears. Mann's also been really into this intimate, over the shoulder POV since he went digital and cameras got smaller.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:13 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ya I remember this super well

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

So many problems with Ali but the opening 30 mins or wtv are incredible

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

he uses those shots really well to put you 'in the moment' & i think hes better at that than any director around

― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:15 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah well said there's something abt the way he uses digital that evokes this vibe really intensely, feel like he understands the medium better than anyone

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Public Enemies was an uninteresting failure.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Sunday, 18 March 2012 04:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

ur an uninteresting failure

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 March 2012 04:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

o damn

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

lots of great moments in Public Enemies, especially the death (shot on Celluloid!) and the forest shoot-out (just well done) but no, it doesn't hang together quite how it should. Looks great though. Miami Vice might be his masterpiece though.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^ just came to post that. great read.

dmr, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

high level milching:

I would just say that you’re coming up against certain deep, fundamental biological truths: that any living thing is subject to the laws of mortality, and that there was nothing that was done with any of these horses that was unnatural, nothing that was other than what they had evolved to do. [In claiming otherwise], there’s a kind of moral and emotional fastidiousness that is entailed, which at a certain point becomes absurd. Organic matter depends upon the appropriation and consumption of other organic matter. There are just truths that obtain whether we find them pleasant or not. The kind of flinching from any form of art or experience that PETA seems to advocate is ultimately life-hating.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Interesting. I like listening to these guys talk.

I could have sworn way back when that Deadwood was not cancelled, per se, but that Milch walked away. But recently it's been increasingly coming up as cancelled. What went down, exactly?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

hbo canceled it, then reacted to the fan/media backlash by offering milch two two hour episodes to wrap things up but at that point the actors had been released from their contracts milch was working on john from cincinnati wkrp and it never happened

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

iirc

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

ive said this before but i think all he does now are 'interesting failures' -

Mentioned upthread re Mann, but hard to see Milch doing anything but as well, unless he makes his Moby Dick.

"Flashy...hip" (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

hbo cancelling deadwood was just incredibly stupid on their part.

akm, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was a tragic is what it was!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

booo! booing u hbo, damn

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

But wasn't the show sort of backed in a corner by the fact that, you know, it was based on actual people and their fates? Can't keep Hearst the local heavy when he becomes a senator. Though I guess they could have tried.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think that had any effect on anything. They weren't trying to keep the show on the air forever, just finish telling their story. HBO cut them off one season short.

polyphonic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

there was gonna be a flood and a fire!

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hearst left at the end of Season 3, though he sort of won. Season 4 would have dealt with the fallout of the elections. xposts

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sepinwall interviews Milch about the finale.

I didn't realise that Milch new the end of Deadwood was...the end. I thought that scene at the end was too perfect.

Thought Luck really found its way towards the end there. Also thought the last two eps got the Mann-style really well. I will miss it.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 26 March 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

That episode was amazing.

polyphonic, Monday, 26 March 2012 06:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Bittersweet. I really liked this show a lot.

Up there I meant "knew" and not "new.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 26 March 2012 07:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

god that last episode was great-- so sad its over

"whats the story with us?"
"i suspect in the long run, we all go broke"

i want to see a "making of" that explains how the fuck they shot the racing scenes

♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 8 April 2012 08:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

HBO's cancellation of the beleagured horseracing drama "Luck" cost the network $35 million, according to an earnings report released by Time Warner Wednesday.

Time Warner, which owns the premium cable provider, said it suffered the "impairment" because of the series' cancellation in its first season following the death of three horses.

The show had already started production on its second season, and most of the costs were attached to shutting down production during that unaired season, resulting in the $35 million writedown, HBO said.

buzza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

so that's how much a horse costs

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

they can make it back, go hard on the derby this wkend

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not sure if this is upthread, but a very sobering piece about the horse racing industry:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/us/breakdown-horses-series.html

polyphonic, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

holy cow that horse run very good.

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