HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

Boooo!

oh just recast the part. no one will notice

Get one of the old Mountain actors.

They could theoretically write her into another actor bcs of the whole many-faced god thing anyway.

Is there actually anything to that talk other than "reporter realises that she's returning to Doctor Who for episode that's been scheduled since before the season started"?

prob not but he does need a new assistant and she would be great and is raving about script quality

i'm near the end of s3 and this continues to be pretty bad! it's watchable enough to keep my curiosity going.

the rhythmic element i'm really beginning to hate is the "humanizing monologue" about some terrible thing in the past from a badguy character.

it has a teenager's sensibility. the lannisters are supposed to be subtle and devious; they're all crude and obvious (cersei especially, can't tell if that's the writing or performance but neither are good). the love plot between tyrion and shae is unwatchable. none of the characters really seem like they live and breathe the ideology of dynastic struggle; *every single* political marriage has been taken like it was a bad prom date, like nobody can really see what's coming or get how life is.

there's hardly any lightness, none of these people are funny, none really seem like they are of different personality from each other. the language is lifeless.

the nobility were hardly ever alone. they were surrounded by their relatives, their staff, their households. the show is underpopulated. everyone seems to be in transit or being abducted between one of like five places, wouldn't they just run into each other in the middle?

great show.

God, I'm glad I dont demand such realism from my bodice-rippers.

no need to rip anything, there's guaranteed boob!

the rhythmic element i'm really beginning to hate is the "humanizing monologue" about some terrible thing in the past from a badguy character.

i liked the one w the guy in the box.

got more of a boobage ripper

I think quite a few of the characters are funny. And despite what everyone says about relentless grimness (which spellcorrects as firmness) I think there's plenty of lighter moments (not that I necessarily require them but it would be a different show without them).

yeah I don't get how you don't think Tyrion is funny, he's a droll little fellow (zomg book spoilerz)

goole otm

Not exactly sure why or how the Lannisters as a group are supposed to be subtle but as much as I love the show can't argue with a most of that

the lannisters aren't supposed to be subtle, they're supposed to be devious, conniving assholes and everyone in the show knows it

i liked the one w the guy in the box.

i absolutely loved this one

confession: i was the guy in the box

i didn't like how it ended

cersei especially, can't tell if that's the writing or performance but neither are good

i'm almost through season 4. I go back and forth on cersei; obviously the character intentionally enters every conversation with the goal of cutting the other person down to size and showing off her power by getting the brutal last word. And while that makes sense for the character, it gets so one-note at a certain point! And since that's basically all she does, the monologues about how much she loves her children seem kind of bogus, which I don't think they're supposed to.

also i think the performance is intentionally a little hammy, like someone who is in over their head but trying to act like they think powerful people act. Just the way she holds her wine glass, for example. But like i said, it gets a little one-note at a certain point.

yeah her character in particular seems like it was conceived ad hoc. of all the people to be really mad that her daughter was being married off! and the incest? it's treated like this 'ooh nasty' broken taboo w/o any hint at a deeper psyche.

she's the ICE QUEEN who does DIRTY THINGS and is REALLY MEAN but *writes in column titled 'humanizing element'* REALLY LOVES HER KIDS

I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things (this is my favourite tv show but all these things get overrated by lots of people) then going to film, comedy, comics and videogames threads saying "Mmmmmmm I love these yummy smelly turds, feed me more turds!" Maybe I'm just as guilty of this but it makes me want to keep a journal on every member who seems to hold vastly different standards for different things (I'm less familiar with Goole's opinions so I have no comparisons right now).

I have more sympathy for someone who tears apart a crappy film they sat through for some reason than people who watch 4 seasons of a tv show they hate every second of.

idk, if ever there was a show to watch despite yourself

goole otm

I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things

I wasn't as harsh as goole from the start, but as season 4 becomes an increasing slog for me, those points really do resonate. I think this show obviously has certain strengths (which is why it's so beloved!), but idk, goole's critiques aren't just "this show is boring" or "the characters are dumb" or something

For me, the show always had an strain of cheap cynicism masquerading as "realness," but it becomes overwhelming as the seasons continue, and as the villainous characters become more cardboard and stupid.

I think I've mentioned this upthread but cersei's irrational(?) love of her children is essentially the paradigm of what the show (books?) thinks of as the potential for chaotic evil over and against the masculine meritocratic codes of honor typified by ned stark. maternal (and maybe Oedipal) love, is dangerous specifically because it is concerned for nothing but itself, and it is what sets the whole crazy ball of the narrative in motion. not sure that reading holds up but it's interesting to think about.

not for nothing do father figures (or potential ones) kinda die off one by one...

I assume that reading would draw a parallel between Cersei and mama Stark (whose name I can't remember)

yes and also dany's trying to square the whole "mother of dragons" righteous fury thing with the (coded masculine in this reading) realities of governance. dany trying to be father and mother.

xp - though the show eliminated a plot involving Mrs. Stark's chaotic "evil" as a result of maternal love; i actually really wanted that to happen.

who knows what might happen next season?

funniest thing on the whole show so far was the kid night watcher killing the redhead barbarian woman and then giving jon snow a sweet li'l nod. thanks buddy, you did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4oQzTGTc_g

:D

lol goole "this show is bad"... two weeks later season 4

i think i feel okay enough to admit i only watch the show now for the sweet action scenes

But they are so few and far between.

i know... honest im just on my phone in betewen the fight scenes. i have no idea whats going on in the show anymore or how its different from the books

When the violent noises start you look up?

yuyp

Were you watching the Spartacus tv series?

Whats that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_(TV_series)

It initially looked like a shoestring budget version of 300, I thought it looked terrible but a lot of people said it was great silly fun and surprisingly engaging (but people said that about 300: Rise Of An Empire and they were wrong).

Spartacus >>>>>> GoT

Cool man i'll check it out

i don't like action scenes or fighting scenes when they get too corny or goofy i like it when they have just the right amount of gravitas which is why i still watch GoT

Look forward to lots of manly laughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2hgQLlUWGo

i like when ppl r slaughtered at weddings