Gabriel Garcia Marquez

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80s pseud, pavement cafe style, picking up german chicks wandering around primrose hill, always on the shelves of chalk farm international households - binds together the french girl with the israeli boy, reading a translation in their second or third language ("hell no, i read the dutch translation actually"), and the kid doing acting and drama at the ripoff institute, WC1, and look, theres another 4 page feature in the observer!

so, why should i care about gabriel garcia marquez?

gareth, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i mean, is it that kundera schtick again?

gareth, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

cos love in the time of cholera is still great? i reread it recently, disliking it quite a lot of the way, but still felt he pulled it off in the end. there's a good review of it by pynchon on the web somewhere (prob in the pynchon section of themodernword.com, i guess).

100 yrs of solitude i was underwhelmed by when i read it a few years back, though it is my friend C's fave book ever and her taste is generally v sound, so i shd give it another go. i also recall chronicle of a death foretold was good, and my mum loved the autumn of the patriach, but i never got round to it personally.

toby, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chapter 1 of "100 years..." is best piece of fiction I've ever read - the writing is simply a joy to read. The book gets a little boring towards the end, but still a classic. You'll have to explain that Kundera parallel, I don't get it.

zebedee, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

kundera as cultural phenomenon rather than as novelist, i think.

toby, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

While it is the path of wisdom to be suspicious of the new feted favourite, it is not wise to assume that whoever it is is no good because of it. Sometimes the hype is justified. I think Marquez is one of the world's great writers (though I've only read English translations). His regular journalism seems good but unexceptional to me, but I don't think the 20th Century produced many finer novelists. Chronicle Of A Death Foretold is a great taster, short and intense.

Martin Skidmore, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
so anyway, im reading 100 years of solitude now, its ok so far

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:29 (twenty years ago) link

Read _Cronica de una muerte anunciada_ in Spanish and then you'll like GGM

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Gabriel Garcia Marquez makes me wish I could read Spanish - I'm sure it would be even more beautiful in its original than in translation.

You should care because he makes the impossible seem possible, or even logical. Because he makes the world seem a more magical place.

Love in the Time of Cholera is perhaps my favourite book ever (although I have about six of those).

I found this thread whilst searching for one about cheese. There is a cosmic significance in that. Oh yes.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i tried reading 100 years a couple years ago and couldn't stand it. i hate magic realism. i want to try again though. i'm trying to learn to read in spanish (i mean i know how but i've never read a book in spanish) but i guess i will read it in english first.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i tried reading 100 years a couple years ago and couldn't stand it. i hate magic realism. i want to try again though. i'm trying to learn to read in spanish (i mean i know how but i've never read a book in spanish) but i guess i will read it in english first.
-- caitlin oh no (caitx...), June 14th, 2005.

I love magic realism. Which is why I love this author.

I'm guessing you probably won't like it any more 2nd time, then...

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Gabriel Garcia Marquez makes me wish I could read Spanish - I'm sure it would be even more beautiful in its original than in translation

i guess he said edith grossman's translations are so good that he prefers "hundred years" in translation.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Marquez in English, translated by Grossman, is as good if not = to reading him in Spanish.

Borges is the only author I've read in Spanish whose stuff originally written in Spanish loses something, though I can't really pinpoint what it is, in its translation to English. His translators have been pretty excellent, also.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, anyone who loves Marquez should check out the Maqroll books by the amazing Alvaro Mutis (also translated by Grossman). Mutis is one of Marquez's oldest, best friends and a hell of a storyteller/poet. So great that Marquez would let him read all his manuscripts first, even before Gabo's editors/publishers got them; if Mutis didn't like something Marquez would take it back to the drawing board/trash it.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

YES YES YES you can get the maqroll books collected by NYRB in a single trade paperback volume, it is easily the best book i read in 2004 by a country mile.

earlier this morning i wanted to suggest "pedro paramo" by juan rulfo for anybody who thinks marquez is too twee.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

im reading 100 years in english and ive got no feel for it, tho im a quarter of the way in. so episodic.

iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 February 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I enjoyed it the first time I read it in english but didn't really completely get it. I put this down to my age, I think I was 12 or 13 at the time, and further readings as I got older enhanced it. I now have a copy in the original Spanish annotated with lots of notes and etc. I think I can more fully appreciate it, has brought a lot of things in to focus that I had previously overlooked.

It's always seemed to me that it's Márquez's greatest work, it's his most dense and well thought through book. But I always preferred Love in the Time of Cholera which does a lot of the same things but is a lighter and more fun read.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Friday, 27 February 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont know if my spanish was ever good enough to read Marquez, or if it would still be now. ive been doing arbitration work from Venezuela for the past few months and reading spanish correspondence and law, but i suspect Marquez would do me in

iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I gotta finish this book (100 años...) I've been reading it for MONTHS on and off in Spanish but it's pretty slow going because it's so dense and Spanish isn't my first language. My ex bought me Cronica de una muerte anunciado too which I haven't even cracked.

His very short story "La luz es como el agua" (Light is like water?) is so good.

DJ Mr. Face Stabba, M.D. (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved 100 Years, so I decided to read more of his work. I picked up Autumn of the Patriarch, read about 100 pages of it, and never picked up another of his books. I may try reading some of his other books - I've heard since that Autumn is his most 'difficult'.

fwiw (rockapads), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I've always thought that he's a great writer but hasn't written all that many novels that you should bother with. Just not very consistent, e.g. his last novel is one of the worst books I've ever read by a writer that I like that wasn't some form of juvenilia or something. Grotesque, badly-judged, fallen right off the deep end in to self-parody. Much of his work pre-100 years is just him figuring out how to get there and things like Autumn of the Patriarch and The General in His Labyrinth aren't bad, but far from essential. Would definitely say read Love in the Time of Cholera though.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Friday, 27 February 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

A terrible day.

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/nobel-laureate-gabriel-garcia-marquez-dies-87

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:19 (ten years ago) link

indeed. rip

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link

Oh man, RIP. Autumn of the Patriarch is so great.

Frederik B, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

RIP :(

lex pretend, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link

RIP

MV, Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:24 (ten years ago) link

aw, RIP

I love his thought (iirc expressed in 100 YOS) that nobody really dies until the last person who remembered them alive dies.

sleeve, Thursday, 17 April 2014 22:30 (ten years ago) link

"...and that everything written on them was unrepeatable since time immemorial and forever more, because races condemned to one hundred years of solitude did not have a second opportunity on earth."

Just came to post the same thing, Michael. From the same speech:

Venerable Europe would perhaps be more perceptive if it tried to see us in its own past. If only it recalled that London took three hundred years to build its first city wall, and three hundred years more to acquire a bishop; that Rome labored in a gloom of uncertainty for twenty centuries, until an Etruscan King anchored it in history; and that the peaceful Swiss of today, who feast us with their mild cheeses and apathetic watches, bloodied Europe as soldiers of fortune, as late as the Sixteenth Century. Even at the height of the Renaissance, twelve thousand lansquenets in the pay of the imperial armies sacked and devastated Rome and put eight thousand of its inhabitants to the sword.

r. bean (soda), Friday, 18 April 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link

RIP, a great writer

forum enthusiast (wins), Friday, 18 April 2014 05:10 (ten years ago) link

:-(

One Hundred Years of Solitude really is a book for the ages.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 April 2014 07:27 (ten years ago) link

:(

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 18 April 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link

RIP :(

, Friday, 18 April 2014 12:17 (ten years ago) link

RIP

One Hundred Years overshadows everything else, but I remember Love in the Time of Cholera as equally vivid and more personal

a master of a kind we may never see again

Brad C., Friday, 18 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

Read El coronel no tiene quien le escriba in Spanish in high school for a class, and am forever grateful. A master of language.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 April 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

RIP, changed my life permanently, gracias por todo, maestro!
Seeing his hometown from a bus window was quite memorable, now that I realize it happened 18 years ago. I have a lot of tortured love for Colombia and a lot of love for this particular Colombian, who inspired me to go there in the first place. 87 and at home sounds like an alright way to go, honestly.

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 18 April 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

The piece by Jameson only mentions 'magical realism' once (or at most twice) and there is a lot to be said for that.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 June 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link


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