New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

i'm not saying people don't buy shit headphones, i'm saying if apple's going to replace something so ubiquitous it needs to meet expectations that the replacement won't be worse than what they had

Yes but the worse part won't be that the dongle delivers lesser audio quality, it will be that they need a dongle at all.

FYI more than 50% of headphones sold last year (estimated at 60%) were Bluetooth.

i agree, just adding man alive's experience to the pile of broken headphone jack dreams

lol

The reason I am sort of swayed by the decision is that my teenage sons don't see anything strange about converting to wireless. They already have, they listen to garbage Bluetooth headphones.

FYI more than 50% of headphones sold last year (estimated at 60%) were Bluetooth.

― Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 12:36 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sold yes, but how many people live with what comes in the box? a lot of people use what they've got, including the headphones that came with their previous phone(s), whatever's accumulated under the bed &c.

i mean i agree that 90% of people won't even look for a difference between headphone jack and lightning connector, much less notice one

below the age of 25 people lose or break headphones all the time (yes! anecdotal!) and you can bet they will lose dongles too. Would you buy $29 Apple earbuds or spend the same amount on Bluetooth buds? I know what my kids and their friends all think.

Apple might be a couple of years early on this (to my annoyance!) but I suspect they aren't far off.

Always confounds me that a lot of the big critics on ILM refuse to spend more than $100 on speakers

― 龜, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 3:25 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

always confounds me how fake and annoying u are

feel like it's a minor blessing the dongle is "only" $10

but yeah, feels like headphones have become disposable garbage products ppl expect to replace, a disappearing market like high end receivers and bookshelf speakers

there are more headphones to choose from than ever before. it's definitely easier to get a good pair than it used to be. there is maybe a lot more crap? but a lot of decent-to-good stuff out there, old standbys etc. the market for receivers and speakers isn't disappearing either. wired audio is not going anywhere anytime soon.

multiple xps I read that time machine had switched to smb in sierra, is that not the case?

. the market for receivers and speakers isn't disappearing either. wired audio is not going anywhere anytime soon.

That's what the consumer camera makers thought and they're fucked and all racing for the high end now.

OTM. Wired audio is disappearing rapidly.

Again, look at how often people below the age of 25 purchase wired audio...or compare the number of Bluetooth speakers vs. wired speakers purchased last year.

makes sense, the natural format of audio is flying through the air. why constrain it in these little wires longer than necessary?

Again, look at how often people below the age of 25 purchase wired audio...or compare the number of Bluetooth speakers vs. wired speakers purchased last year.

― Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:58 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Part of why this is slightly misleading is that you don't need to buy new wired speakers all the fucking time, which is the problem. I've already owned three portable bluetooth speakers and a 30-pin connector speaker in the amount of time I've had my wired speakers. Yes, from a business perspective that's great for the manufacturers, but it kind of sucks for consumers. The convenience of the portable bluetooth speakers (which in my case are like $50-80) is still a nice supplement to having better wired speakers, like if I just want to put something on quietly in the kitchen for my kids, but I would never shell out for expensive bluetooth speakers that I can't trust will still be usable in 5 years if the tech changes again. And for the same reason I'm really not interested in getting nice bluetooth headphones, not to speak of W1 headphones made by lolbeats.

And there is definitely a ceiling for the proliferation of expensive disposable tech. The watch is always going to be more of a specialty item than the phone, for example, unless they find a way to make it seem necessary, the way having a smartphone seems necessary today.

another reason that i am bummed about the headphone jack is that i plug in my phone to my wired receiver all the time

but yeah, feels like headphones have become disposable garbage products ppl expect to replace

It's actually been going the other way with headphones -- sales at the high end have been increasing for years now. I think that's one of the reasons there's been so much complaining about the loss of the headphone jack: lots of people have very expensive headphones that don't work directly with the iPhone anymore.

i'm saying if apple's going to replace something so ubiquitous it needs to meet expectations that the replacement won't be worse than what they had

Not to defend Apple, as I'm not happy with the missing jack either, but to be fair the adapter isn't "the replacement" -- wireless and Lightning are the replacement; I'm sure they consider the adapter a temporary bridge for people not ready to make the leap yet.

definitely curious to see what sales #'s are like -- preorders were apparently multiples of past years at certain carriers, but lines were short at stores.

high end users are also the type of people who carry around a portable DAC/amplifier xp

FWIW The Wirecutter finds no difference in sound with the adapter, but did confirm problems with remotes/mics after a period of inactivity through the adapter.

http://thewirecutter.com/blog/apple-lightning-earpods-headphone-adapter/

lol I have a USB DAC that I put between my computer and my external computer speakers.

xp yes sales at high end have increased but also low end have become completely commoditized and are not irrelevant.

personally i don't understand how mini-bluetooth speakers became so ubiquitous, but everywhere i go it's like those and shitty skullcandy earbuds

no different than the boombox from 20-30 years ago, just a lot smaller and cheaper and more convenient

siri on mac might be good but i will never know cause i have a mini innit

After a few hours with my new phone, I love the new button/not a button.

*quietly whispers* me too

I never use the Bluetooth speakers the way they are advertised (like, a bunch of people partying around a sprinkler in a park or something), but it's convenient to have something I can put in any room of the house and pair with my phone easily, like if I want to put on music while doing the dishes or for my kids in the bedroom. I had a JBL which sounded pretty good and then it broke when it fell so I got some random brand with high marks for like $40 on Prime Day and it sounds pretty good, I can't even remember what it's called.

i have a JBL one, my favorite thing is the little drawstring loop on it so i can hang it up and out of the way of potential spillage

heck yeah

I impulse bought a bluetooth speaker (I own one at home, already, but it's bigger and not waterproof) when I was traveling out of one of those airport electronics vending machines. Mostly because I was very enthused about buying something out of a Best Buy vending machine and it was on sale (no more expensive than a real store despite being in an airport). That little fucker is waterproof and I have it hanging in my bathroom, sometimes in the actual shower! It's actually pretty sweet.

I'd be down with taking it to a picnic or whatever. I've used it outside while grilling.

also I had a cheap place I was staying on vacation, basically a college residence hall that rents out rooms like a motel, and it was better than most hotel radio things I've used

I have a 7+ and already its obvious that the camera is amazing as is the screen.

Also obvious is that I've never noticed how often I watch movies on my phone when the battery is dying. Not being able to charge and listen is a bigger deal than I imagined.

Gotta get that double dingle dongle

dingo dango dongle

his name is

o wrong thread

"Gotta get that double dingle dongle"

I hate that fucking red hot chili peppers song

On my way to get da 7+

This is the site you need to buy one in store: http://www.istocknow.com/live/

Works best on a laptop or desktop

Elvis Telecom otm, I installed Sierra and recovered approx 25GB of space

so I bought the iPhone se and I love apple again

So Sierra won't work on my 2009 MBP - quite a blow to be officially declared outdated.

seriously considering the SE when I do finally get a new phone, although afraid I'll have trouble going back to the smaller screen

dropped by the apple store, the haptic feedback feels fine/good, cameras are great, didn't feel the need to upgrade but if i did it would be to the 7+ for its big cameras!!

i am probably gonna drop € for the SE at some point next week. then put an SSD in my 2011 Mini and i'll basically be good for another 5 years

the SE was cheaper in £. so happy to be able to use my thumbprint to open finally!

and i can put it on its side to watch baseball! TRY THAT IPHONE 7

I can recommend the 7 plus? It's perfection in every wa3

Raise and wake + fingerprint = u can unlock w/out pressing any physical buttons !

In every wa3!

almost wish I got the plus for pics but I am a happy man