So, the proper part of the season kicks off in earnest tonight with Celtic's first Champions League qualifier against Dinamo Moscow. Motherwell are still in Europe, Falkirk aren't. Barry Ferguson has gone away, and Chris Killen is Celtic's form striker. Marvellous Marvin Andrews is back in the SPL, and we're going to have to pay lots of money if we want to watch it all.
Post your mental theories, ill-thought-out opinions, and gratuitous digs at Hearts here. And sign up for the Predictor once it's back on again.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 11:48 (3 months ago) Permalink
Also, should have asked opinions on thread titles because of the sterling work being done over on the big boys' thread.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:03 (3 months ago) Permalink
It made me chuckle anyway.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:18 (3 months ago) Permalink
Needs more Livi references.
― William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:18 (3 months ago) Permalink
Was pointed out to me yesterday that Chris Innes was captain of Gretna when they went tits up, and went on to become captain of Livingston. That's a set of career moves that would put me to shame, and I'd pay his taxi fare myself if he decided to rock up at Murray Park any day soon.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 12:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
Wasn't he being considered for a transfer to the MLS for a hot second right around the Gretna demise? We probably should have run with that.
― Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 13:18 (3 months ago) Permalink
He was, yes, he could have brought his powers of destruction overseas as well. Chris Innes, DESTROYER OF WORLDS!
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 13:19 (3 months ago) Permalink
Considering he was trying out with the Metros here in New Jersey, I'm not so sorry. At the time, he seemed like a good idea we mystifyingly just let go.
― Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 13:27 (3 months ago) Permalink
thought n'guemo looked tidy tonight, compact, hungry, and not wasteful
fortune looked v.flat footed imo
u still stand by ur belief in donati, ailsa?
also ws boruc always tht fat?
― read ur post, phoned a somnambulance (cozwn), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yes, I still stand by my belief in Donati. Thought N'Guemo looked like a cross between Evander Sno and Thomas Graveson. Continue to think that Fortune looks like Kenny Miller. Am not convinced that the best use for the left back we've all been crying out for for two years is to play him as a midfielder (as onimo pointed out to me, we spent years trying to turn midfielders into left backs. We finally get a left back and what do we do with him...seriously, had enough of this square pegs in round holes shite already). Would like to smack Aiden McGeady upside his head for leaving Hinkel stranded for the goal. Not terribly impressed with the change to route one hoof it up to the big lads football after Killen and Samaras came on, especially since they'd brought on Danny Fox for, er, what was it again?
Bizarre team selections, puzzling tactics, intense pressure ruined by inability to finish and a worrying tendency to cave in on the break. It's like last season never went away. Ah, it's good to be back.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:54 (3 months ago) Permalink
That said, there were some positives, mostly from Maloney. Still maintain all we really need on our coaching staff is a dude with a megaphone to yell "blooter it!" every time the ball falls to a player at the edge of the box, rather this hesitant no-you-have-it pish (not that it didn't stop everyone falling about laughing when Lee Naylor tried an audacious shot from just over the halfway line which possibly ended with the ball over in Moscow ready for the next leg). Seriously, they showed some video clips of John Hartson before the game, perhaps they should have shown them to the entire squad instead.
God, I'm wishing for John Hartson back. This can't be good, can it?
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
def far tmfd on the edge box tonight
― read ur post, phoned a somnambulance (cozwn), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 23:02 (3 months ago) Permalink
RIP Paul McGrillen
Something very eerie about four players from one squad in a game I remember very clearly all dying before their 40th birthday.
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:02 (3 months ago) Permalink
Jeezo, the Team of Doom
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2009 11:07 (3 months ago) Permalink
Bad day all round for Motherwell really, getting spanked 3-0 off Steaua Bucharest. Aberdeen even worse off, losing 5-1 at home to Sigma Olomouc.
Livingston haven't gone bust. Yet.
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:41 (3 months ago) Permalink
Livi must stay alive to keep the kkk kuntz in division 2.All football fans should have a whipround to keep livi up.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:46 (3 months ago) Permalink
With all due to respect to Celtic's European away record, does that mean Scotland effectively down to one team left in Europe before the end of July? That's got to be a record.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:47 (3 months ago) Permalink
^gloating rangers fan pops in
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:49 (3 months ago) Permalink
revenge for posts a year ago i guess
right, I'm sueing
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:51 (3 months ago) Permalink
What have the second division done to deserve them more? What difference does it make which division they're in?
xposts
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:52 (3 months ago) Permalink
the lower the division the better for them
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:55 (3 months ago) Permalink
It's only our group stages away record that's shit, fwiw. We've won a CL qualifier away from home (Ajax in the Amsterdam Arena).
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
According to the sun , rangers have put in a bid of £170,000 for James McArthur. Hopefully ronnie tells them to fuck off.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
Confident Celtic will win in Moscow, Ailsa?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:57 (3 months ago) Permalink
All the teams have to go through pre-qualifying next year I think, so this is not good. I don't understand how the recent good runs have faded away so quickly
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
I think Celtic *can* win in Moscow. Public displays of absolute confidence on the internet are for morons.
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:00 (3 months ago) Permalink
Game being re-run right now on BBC Alba for those who can get it, and those who care.
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:02 (3 months ago) Permalink
the whole "shouldnt let the winners of scottish/league cups into europe ,let the highest placed teams in the league get the place instead" argument wouldnt make any difference as they tend to get knocked out before the 1st proper round too.xposts
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:03 (3 months ago) Permalink
I was going to say that at least they lose to proper teams from proper countries, but I hadn't noticed that Pierre Littbarski manages that mob from Liechtenstein's second-largest town.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:38 (3 months ago) Permalink
I posted that on the last thread, because I am queen of shite football trivia.
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:54 (3 months ago) Permalink
I realise I am basing my view of FC Vaduz's credibility entirely on the involvement of a bloke's cool name from my football sticker days
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, was going to say, bit like going "hey, John Barnes scored a great goal or two in his day, Celtic are bound to win the Champions League now", innit?
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:02 (3 months ago) Permalink
Dan Fox is on BBC Alba right now going "yeah, I have Scottish grandparents, I played for England U-21s, but it was only friendlies, can I have a Scotland cap please?"
― ailsa, Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:10 (3 months ago) Permalink
Paul McGrillen's death was suicide, according to a couple of the papers today.
― ailsa, Friday, 31 July 2009 08:51 (3 months ago) Permalink
So, Rangers pwned by Arsenal. Quelle surprise. Davie Weir is hilarious. Rangers fans giving it big licks with the still-illegal, still-not-being-policed-very-well famine song, and being lauded by the Sky commentators for bringing fun and a party atmosphere to the game. I take they haven't broken North London yet then?
Am all in favour of games being on BBC Alba btw. Unintelligible teuchters >>>> unintelligent Scott Booth.
― ailsa, Sunday, 2 August 2009 23:43 (3 months ago) Permalink
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2568371/Derek-Riordan-arrested-for-a-breach-of-the-peace.html
Poor wee Deek still getting "picked on". When he was in Glasgow he didn't even get picked :P
Slopping out still standard practice in Embra?
― stop me if you think that you've heard this (onimo), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 10:30 (3 months ago) Permalink
what a noob
― I h8 beaheads (cozwn), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 11:50 (3 months ago) Permalink
If Darren MacCormack is anything to go by, DEEKVOLUTION of more than one type.
― If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate (aldo), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 12:00 (3 months ago) Permalink
MOGGAVOLUTION!
pwned!
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:53 (3 months ago) Permalink
Up next, Arsenal, Atletico Madrid, Fiorentina, Lyon or Stuttgart. Scared? Nah. (OK, just a wee bit)
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
I think Arsenal would rip us apart. From what I've seen of the others in the past couple of seasons I think we'd have a chance but would probably struggle. We're guaranteed Europa League group stages if we lose though, aren't we?
Fortune for Brown: strange but effective substitution. Sami remains an enigma but for the moment I'm happy he's with us. N'Guemo could be a great acquisition. Donati still doing a not bad job of keeping himself in Mogga's good books.
― stop me if you think that you've heard this (onimo), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 18:14 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yep, minimum of Europa Lolgue group stages now. Mostly impressed with everyone today, which is rare for me.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 18:17 (3 months ago) Permalink
I had also completely forgotten that there was a Scotland game next week, talking of lolz. Caldwell brothers + any version of inexperienced goalie vs Route One John Carew. Expect several mentions of Chris Iwulemo's sitter the last time we played them from every lolcommentator ever.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 18:19 (3 months ago) Permalink
Or Iwelumo, if you prefer.
Crikey, I wasn't expecting that. I'll just tuck my tail between my legs and slink off now.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 18:44 (3 months ago) Permalink
no, no, that's exactly the sort of form that'll still put you above me in the predictor!
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 19:01 (3 months ago) Permalink
Oh, and cheerio-ish to Livingston, relegated to the third division, where the huge crowds will surely ease their financial woes. This keeps Airdrie United up, which I'm sure will please Kerr no end. Also means Cowdenbeath go up to the heady heights of the second division.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 21:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
The Blue... erm... Clyde.
― If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate (aldo), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 22:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
I still find it amusing to refer to Brazil as the Yellow Cowdenbeath, which probably says more about me than I should admit in public.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 22:34 (3 months ago) Permalink
yes, and he didn't start there - he was in France for years before spending one season at Raith.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Monday, 9 November 2009 21:50 (1 week ago) Permalink
Yes yes, we get it, some players have moved up through the leagues. That's sort of how football works. Doesn't mean *every* half decent player is worth throwing money at on the off-chance it works out for them. For every Didier Agathe, there's a David Fernandez.
― ailsa, Monday, 9 November 2009 21:51 (1 week ago) Permalink
neither does it mean players from a lower spl club are automatically not good enough for celtic either.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 November 2009 21:54 (1 week ago) Permalink
which was what onimo was suggesting
There's nothing 'automatic' about it, I gave my opinion and my reasons. I'm fucking sick of buying Hibs' players and they sometimes beat us, fuck hoovering up all the talent from teams who can't take a point off us - I'd rather see some of these kids who've bossed Scottish youth football getting a chance.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Monday, 9 November 2009 21:55 (1 week ago) Permalink
I'm not making onimo's arguments for him, I'm making my own based on your earlier suggestion that we should have signed McCarthy and Easton.
― ailsa, Monday, 9 November 2009 21:58 (1 week ago) Permalink
Much as my predictor scores have gone to shit, my work fantasy football team is going a bit Sebo as well. We got to make a couple of subs, and as soon as I took out Sone Aluko and Andy Dorman and replaced them with Deek and Stephen McGinn, the former have hit a bit of form and the latter have gone to shit. I think I've singlehandedly loosened the nuts on the Deekwagon. Sorry about that :-(
― ailsa, Saturday, 14 November 2009 10:07 (1 week ago) Permalink
Oh, and good luck in the future to John Kennedy, who has been finally forced to admit defeat in his attempts to return from injury at the ridiculously young age of 26. Cheers for that game in Barcelona, mate, you were every bit as good as David Marshall that day. Shame we have to perm any two chuckle brothers from the three stooges at the back these days :-(
― ailsa, Saturday, 14 November 2009 10:45 (1 week ago) Permalink
wtf sounded like Scotland were bossing the first 15 minutes then I get round to finding a stream and it's 2-0 Wales :(
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:35 (1 week ago) Permalink
uh 3-0
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:36 (1 week ago) Permalink
should have been a penalty for 4-0 there if this wasn;t my country I'd be pissing myself laughing at this ineptitude.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:38 (1 week ago) Permalink
Really, really wish I hadn't come out to see this. Fucking rubbish.
― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:40 (1 week ago) Permalink
I wonder if Burley has seen these fannies trying to defend in Celtic jerseys this season. I'm amazed McManus is still playing professional football never mind playing internationals.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:44 (1 week ago) Permalink
Useless at the back. I'd like to think I could do better. Did I mention I'm watching it with 5 Welshmen?
― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:49 (1 week ago) Permalink
I imagine the other six can hang onto a 3-0 in the second half
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 15:50 (1 week ago) Permalink
stream falling over, thank fuck for that
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:04 (1 week ago) Permalink
came back on just in time for see Marshall somehow avoid a definite red card
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:05 (1 week ago) Permalink
Morton 4 - 0 Raith
coupon properly hammered as well :(
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:35 (1 week ago) Permalink
DEEKVOLUTION. Possibly.
― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:36 (1 week ago) Permalink
the ref shouldve gave wales a stonewall penalty ans mrshall and hutton should have been red carded. Prob keeps that useless cunt in a job because of it.Burley fuck off.gordon smith fuck off.so called defenders fuck off.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:48 (1 week ago) Permalink
That Aaron Ramsay's pretty good, eh? It's plain weird watching footy of that quality, but with one top-drawer player who the ball just sticks to. Burley out etc.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 14 November 2009 16:53 (1 week ago) Permalink
so it seems that it's bye bye Burley, hello... um. Who's a reasonable candidate who isn't going to have to commit career suicide (i.e. not Levein, Coyle etc.) to take the job? We're going to get the triumphant return of Wattie when his Rangers contract runs out, aren't we?
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 16 November 2009 12:49 (5 days ago) Permalink
I presume so, unless McLeish gets the boot first - and then eventually the triumphant return of Burley. They should really hold off a little for Phil Brown though.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:01 (5 days ago) Permalink
now that that idea's in my head anything else will be a disappointment.
(moreso than it already would've been, that is.)
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 16 November 2009 13:09 (5 days ago) Permalink
Mo Johnstone ftw
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Monday, 16 November 2009 13:30 (5 days ago) Permalink
I saw him once on MTV, giving a motivational pep talk to some fat kid whose biggest dream in life was to have a kickabout with the Wizards - "reach past your limits, give 200%, belieeeve in yourself", that kind of thing. So he's got the pedigree.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:34 (5 days ago) Permalink
Burley officially out then. Good luck whoever takes over that mob. Is that Boydenko an internationalist again then?
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:33 (5 days ago) Permalink
and ferguson?
Smith better not get the job, traitorous bastard.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 November 2009 18:38 (5 days ago) Permalink
Darren Ferguson? But seriously, I think they might be forced to go foreign again.
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:44 (4 days ago) Permalink
It'll be Jim Jeffries or Walter Smith.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:56 (4 days ago) Permalink
We've just given up now, haven't we?
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:58 (4 days ago) Permalink
I know I have.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 14:05 (4 days ago) Permalink
Am I alone in thinking that if Jim Jeffries is the answer then you must be asking the wrong question?
― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 14:56 (4 days ago) Permalink
Unless the question is "What fat Jambo bastard should cheer up, according to a popular football song?"
― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 14:57 (4 days ago) Permalink
I'm black affronted by the prospect of Jim Jeffries becoming Scotland manager, up to high do' even
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:00 (4 days ago) Permalink
The question is probably along the lines of "Who is cheap and prepared to take it?"
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 15:04 (4 days ago) Permalink
Q. Who was the last manager to take Scotland to the play-offs of a major championship?
a. Walter Smithb. Alex McLeish c. Berti Vogts
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:20 (4 days ago) Permalink
Bring back Berti!
Is Klinsmann available? <------- legendary Scottish gallows humour
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:23 (4 days ago) Permalink
PBPhilBrown for scotland?
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:49 (4 days ago) Permalink
Phil and Gordon Brown for Scotland
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:52 (4 days ago) Permalink
Don't know about that, but Craig Brown was decidedly not ruling himself out of the (short-term) running earlier
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 17:38 (4 days ago) Permalink
See Jimmy Calderwood has linked himself with the job too...This isn't going to be pretty whatever the outcome.
― treefell, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:00 (4 days ago) Permalink
John Collins
― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:24 (4 days ago) Permalink
Not likely - Collins is 'a stickler for fitness and technique, his methods were questioned by unhappy Hibs players'
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 18:35 (4 days ago) Permalink
You don't need any of that fitness and technique nonsense when you don a Scotland jersey.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 20:34 (4 days ago) Permalink
Calderwood or Souness, probably. Can't be doing with Walter Smith, but he did manage to drag some results out of them (this isn't particularly an endorsement or anything). Silk purse, sow's ear. It's shite being Scottish.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 08:42 (3 days ago) Permalink
George Graham or Darren Ferguson might be worth a punt if you think Peat and Smith's recruitment policy extends beyond what's right in front of their eyes (so, er, no then).
― ailsa, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 08:51 (3 days ago) Permalink
At least it's brought Mad Vlad back out of hiding:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/2734834/Romanov-sticks-the-knife-into-Burley.html
"He was awarded the Tartan Army boss' position for the damage he had done to Hearts.
"He was given the job not because he was a good manager, but for being a loyal servant of the system"
Aye, whatever you say Vlad...
― ailsa, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 09:08 (3 days ago) Permalink
<3 Vlad
Smith ruled himself out btw, along with McGhee & Coyle. Levein considering it though believing himself too young to quit club football. Calderwood and Collins touting for work.
lol @ Craig Mensa Burley saying the players were "too thick" to understand what Uncle George was asking of them.
― I'm Still Stanning (onimo), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 10:55 (3 days ago) Permalink